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Title: Is a 47+ still possible? :'(
Post by: drepwns on November 03, 2017, 10:23:16 pm
Hello everyone,
so I managed to get 38/40 for exam 1 (worked so hard, only for me to drop the easiest questions in the exam due to miscalculation ;-;)
and am within the top 8 of a high performing cohort for my ranking

Is it still possible for me to get a 47+ if I end up full marking exam 2?
Absolutely depressed that the questions I got wrong are questions I've been getting right in practice exams  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Is a 47+ still possible? :'(
Post by: winged dragon 151 on November 04, 2017, 05:31:53 pm
Anythings possible man. I did the same mistake like you 11 TIMES.
Look, 47 is still very possible as you're above the average and possibly 1-2 standard deviations beyond
(How did you know your rank btw?)
Title: Re: Is a 47+ still possible? :'(
Post by: drepwns on November 04, 2017, 09:00:23 pm
Anythings possible man. I did the same mistake like you 11 TIMES.
Look, 47 is still very possible as you're above the average and possibly 1-2 standard deviations beyond
(How did you know your rank btw?)


I just went up to my teacher and told him, he didn't tell me exactly what my rank was, he just told me that all I needed to know was that I am within the top 8 of my cohort.

I guess we'll have to just focus on full marking exam 2 :'( It just sucks that I got the easiest questions in that exam wrong due to miscalculation, even after checking 3 times!!!!! That would mean that I misclicked 3 times consecutively for both questions :'( :'(
Title: Re: Is a 47+ still possible? :'(
Post by: Sine on November 04, 2017, 09:04:21 pm
I know someone who dropped 2 marks in further and got a 49 (i think this is a extremely rare case though). Pretty sure he did it in 2014 so not sure about that years difficulty  :-\
Title: Re: Is a 47+ still possible? :'(
Post by: drepwns on November 04, 2017, 09:31:50 pm
I know someone who dropped 2 marks in further and got a 49 (i think this is a extremely rare case though). Pretty sure he did it in 2014 so not sure about that years difficulty  :-\

General consensus from what I'm seeing is that this is one of the harder further exams in a while, if that means anything I guess. :/
Title: Re: Is a 47+ still possible? :'(
Post by: Sine on November 04, 2017, 09:42:05 pm
General consensus from what I'm seeing is that this is one of the harder further exams in a while, if that means anything I guess. :/
I didn't do further so won't be able to judge the realtive difficulty, eitherway at the top end I don't think exam difficulty plays much a role
Title: Re: Is a 47+ still possible? :'(
Post by: ScreaMy on November 04, 2017, 10:04:21 pm
I am in the same boat, except I'm rank 2 with the highest exam mark at my school. Would i still be able to get 47+ if I ace exam 2?
Title: Re: Is a 47+ still possible? :'(
Post by: Steve252 on November 04, 2017, 10:35:26 pm
I am in the same boat, except I'm rank 2 with the highest exam mark at my school. Would i still be able to get 47+ if I ace exam 2?

Yes if you drop 1 mark in Exam 2, you will get at least 47, maybe 48 if it's a hard exam. If you ace Exam 2, you will get a 49 most likely, but 50 is not possible
Title: Re: Is a 47+ still possible? :'(
Post by: ScreaMy on November 04, 2017, 10:38:30 pm
Generally I have found that this exam was much harder than previous years, with some teachers even complaining that some question should not have been on the exam (Question 8 on Geometry and Measurement)
Title: Re: Is a 47+ still possible? :'(
Post by: Steve252 on November 04, 2017, 10:43:48 pm
Generally I have found that this exam was much harder than previous years, with some teachers even complaining that some question should not have been on the exam (Question 8 on Geometry and Measurement)

Yep that is true, it was harder than previous years for sure, which means losing 3 in Exam 2 may give a 47, again depending on the difficulty of the exam. I'm predicting Exam 2 will be as rough as Exam 1, so slightly lower marks will be required than usual
Title: Re: Is a 47+ still possible? :'(
Post by: winged dragon 151 on November 04, 2017, 11:09:51 pm
Yep that is true, it was harder than previous years for sure, which means losing 3 in Exam 2 may give a 47, again depending on the difficulty of the exam. I'm predicting Exam 2 will be as rough as Exam 1, so slightly lower marks will be required than usual

Listen this exam was NOT hard if you knew all your information/concepts. It was tricky. I made 11 mistakes because I made mistakes I knew were tricky in practice exams (which I knew before hand)  Time LITERALLY threw my train of thought away (I was able to do 3 questions during reading time). This exam is designed to be a game changer and that is why people found the last one easy. You got thrown off on Friday. THATS IT
Title: Re: Is a 47+ still possible? :'(
Post by: ardria on November 04, 2017, 11:17:27 pm
It was tricky. I made 11 mistakes because I made mistakes I knew were tricky in practice exams (which I knew before hand)  Time LITERALLY threw my train of thought away (I was able to do 3 questions during reading time). This exam is designed to be a game changer
If it's designed to be a tricky time crunch then doesn't that make it hard?

The rest of the state and the teachers seemed to have the impression that it was particularly challenging. Each to their own tho :)
Title: Re: Is a 47+ still possible? :'(
Post by: ScreaMy on November 04, 2017, 11:47:52 pm
If it's designed to be a tricky time crunch then doesn't that make it hard?

The rest of the state and the teachers seemed to have the impression that it was particularly challenging. Each to their own tho :)
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Totally Agree with you there, the exam was difficult because it was tricky. Take Question 23 (Core), it asked you to find the payment amount. From my school a very large proportion of students chose B-$100 since they have never seen a change in payment from each payment period, this is honestly what made the exam time consuming and tricky.
Title: Re: Is a 47+ still possible? :'(
Post by: KokKang on November 05, 2017, 01:14:36 am
Hey what Study score would i be looking at with
SAC: 95 or 96 / 100
Exam 1: 39/40
Exam 2: Estimated 58/60
Title: Re: Is a 47+ still possible? :'(
Post by: Steve252 on November 05, 2017, 09:14:42 am
Hey what Study score would i be looking at with
SAC: 95 or 96 / 100
Exam 1: 39/40
Exam 2: Estimated 58/60

48 :)

Title: Re: Is a 47+ still possible? :'(
Post by: ShaneRoach7777777 on November 06, 2017, 02:45:13 pm
What score do you think would be possible with;
SAC Score: 82 - 83 / 100
Exam 1: 36 / 40
Exam 2: (predicted) 55 - 56 / 60?

Thanks!!  :)
Title: Re: Is a 47+ still possible? :'(
Post by: Peter123123123 on November 06, 2017, 02:55:40 pm
I don't think so :(
(ignore my account details because i just randomly chose them when making this account to replyt)
My SAC marks this year have averaged out at about 87/100
First exam: 39/40
Second exam: Estimating 57-60/60 (have checked with friends for the harder questions and we all have the same answers, the other questions weren't too difficult)
and im only hoping for a 41-43 study score
For a 47 you have to have a very high ranking in your cohort (probably top 3) and then lose probably only 3-5 marks in both the exams combined, depending on the difficulty of the exam
Title: Re: Is a 47+ still possible? :'(
Post by: Jemin99 on November 06, 2017, 06:07:57 pm
I don't think so :(
(ignore my account details because i just randomly chose them when making this account to replyt)
My SAC marks this year have averaged out at about 87/100
First exam: 39/40
Second exam: Estimating 57-60/60 (have checked with friends for the harder questions and we all have the same answers, the other questions weren't too difficult)
and im only hoping for a 41-43 study score
For a 47 you have to have a very high ranking in your cohort (probably top 3) and then lose probably only 3-5 marks in both the exams combined, depending on the difficulty of the exam
TBh if you get 39/40 and 57-60/60 ,you will be able to get like high 40s even with 87 % SAC cos your sac will be moderated
Title: Re: Is a 47+ still possible? :'(
Post by: winged dragon 151 on November 07, 2017, 09:42:06 am
Hey guys,

I would like to pose something interesting

I'm in the top 10-15 of my cohort with an average of 76.59% for SACS

I did badly on the first exam (29/40) but I did impressivley on the second (56/60 worst case or 58/60 best case).

What SS am I looking at?
Title: Re: Is a 47+ still possible? :'(
Post by: darcypeaceee on November 07, 2017, 10:05:36 am
What about rank 11 in a weak cohort (strong at the upper end though) with:
SAC Average (GA1): 82%
Exam 1: 37/40
Exam 2: 57/40