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Archived Discussion => 2009 => End-of-year exams => Exam Discussion => Victoria => Mathematical Methods (and CAS) => Topic started by: kdgamz on November 10, 2009, 09:28:34 pm
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ok assuming exam 1 and 2 was of the same standard as last year, and last year to get a 50 u cud only lose 2 marks so......
is it fair to say that to get a 49, u can lose 4 marks all up, and to get a 48 u cud lose 6 marks all up?
all this is ofcourse assuming ur number 1 in terms of SAC marks (A+)
wat u reckon?
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I don't think so - I lost 2.5 marks to get 49. I know people who have lost 6 marks to get below 45. So I think every mark is important in Methods, especially on exam 2.
I think last year, to get 50, you could lose about 1.5 marks.
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I don't think so - I know people who have lost 6 marks to get below 45. So I think every mark is important in Methods, especially on exam 2.
oh man...that sucks but did those people get A+ sacs as well, and was that in 06, coz that year the exams were easy so u cudnt afford to lose 6 marks
do u know how many marks u cud lose for a 48 or a 47 last year?
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Last year, you could lose 1 mark guaranteed for 50 (girl who had rank 1 lost 1 mark but got 50).
The statistic about 6 marks and less than 45 was sadly for last year's exam. Methods is very competitive, which gets scary because every mark is important. These people had high A to A+ SACs with close to perfect on exam 1.
For a 47-48, I reckon 3-4.5 marks is all you can lose. That is with rank 1 on SACs and 40 on exam 1. Overall, about 4 marks loss for a 47-48.
Good luck! =)
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Last year you can lose 2 marks to get a 50.
A kid at our school lost 2 and got 50 and premiers :)
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Last year you can lose 2 marks to get a 50.
A kid at our school lost 2 and got 50 and premiers :)
Then how does ilovemathsmeth lose 2.5 and not get 50? Did they get their statement or base off solutions? Unless it was SACs that made the difference...
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Nah, mine is from my statement. I had a very high rank at my school - rank 2-3, with strong cohort. Maybe 2 was the maximum you could lose, and thus I missed out by 0.5 marks? Wish I'd done the domain right.
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Yeah that extra 0.5 meant heaps haha
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Ahhh =( If only I'd known that I'd miss out by half a mark. Life's unfair. I was much too obsessed with that perfect score lol.
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Ahhh =( If only I'd known that I'd miss out by half a mark. Life's unfair. I was much too obsessed with that perfect score lol.
whoa... you missed out by half a mark! that's tight as! hopefully you'll get 50 in Further to make up for it!! :)
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Thanks, Hooligan!! I really, really hope so =) However I was careless and already lost 1 mark on the exam - not sure how many more marks I could have lost. Are you confident with Further?
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Thanks, Hooligan!! I really, really hope so =) However I was careless and already lost 1 mark on the exam - not sure how many more marks I could have lost. Are you confident with Further?
Umm... I'm fairly confident... I know I'll get less than you though. :P Just hoping for a 48 or 49. :) But would be ectatic if I got 50 (buts its not likely considering I dropped marks everywhere! :P)
I loss 2 marks on exam 1 - both STUPID STUPID mistakes. *headdesk* I hate how they can trick me in MCQ. And probably just one in exam 2 (hopefully there aren't anymore I dropped), which was the aeroplane question... wasn't thinking straight and I put 4.5 and 5.5. :P
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Thanks, Hooligan!! I really, really hope so =) However I was careless and already lost 1 mark on the exam - not sure how many more marks I could have lost. Are you confident with Further?
Umm... I'm fairly confident... I know I'll get less than you though. :P Just hoping for a 48 or 49. :) But would be ectatic if I got 50 (buts its not likely considering I dropped marks everywhere! :P)
I loss 2 marks on exam 1 - both STUPID STUPID mistakes. *headdesk* I hate how they can trick me in MCQ. And probably just one in exam 2 (hopefully there aren't anymore I dropped), which was the aeroplane question... wasn't thinking straight and I put 4.5 and 5.5. :P
You pwned it! Just wait for the good news now :P
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Thanks, Hooligan!! I really, really hope so =) However I was careless and already lost 1 mark on the exam - not sure how many more marks I could have lost. Are you confident with Further?
Umm... I'm fairly confident... I know I'll get less than you though. :P Just hoping for a 48 or 49. :) But would be ectatic if I got 50 (buts its not likely considering I dropped marks everywhere! :P)
I loss 2 marks on exam 1 - both STUPID STUPID mistakes. *headdesk* I hate how they can trick me in MCQ. And probably just one in exam 2 (hopefully there aren't anymore I dropped), which was the aeroplane question... wasn't thinking straight and I put 4.5 and 5.5. :P
You pwned it! Just wait for the good news now :P
awww... thanks TT. Hopefully the marks I dropped won't be soo detrimental to my SS!
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I know, exam 1 was so tricky! =(
Exam 2 - lost marks on the same question as you. I think that question was screwed. Do you use Maths Quest - they specifically state that in the case of Integer solutions, you use the nearest 8 points to that particular point. I used 5, 4 to give $17000 but it's meant to be 2,7. I hate VCAA.
You'll definitely get a great mark! I still don't know exactly how much I lost on explanation questions, so like you, I'm hoping for the range 48-50.
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Synesthetic got 49 last year and dropped 2 marks overall with an A+ SAC mark (although not in the top few of the school I believe, but our cohort is quite strong). 4 marks really isn't going to get net 49. =/
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I know, exam 1 was so tricky! =(
Exam 2 - lost marks on the same question as you. I think that question was screwed. Do you use Maths Quest - they specifically state that in the case of Integer solutions, you use the nearest 8 points to that particular point. I used 5, 4 to give $17000 but it's meant to be 2,7. I hate VCAA.
You'll definitely get a great mark! I still don't know exactly how much I lost on explanation questions, so like you, I'm hoping for the range 48-50.
Ya! Exam 1 was tricky, but you didn't trip up like I did! I guess it also comes down to luck too... whether you can pick up your stupid mistakes! :P You're obviously more lucky than me! hehe.
Oh, I use Essentials, and I used MathsQuest for concepts I didn't get. My teacher taught us to find another point, but I didn't realise you couldn't have 4.5 and 5.5 flights (wasn't thinking straight - didn't think it was one of those cases where you had to consider whether it was realistic!), so I just left it, without realising it.
Yupo! I'd be happy with a 48+, despite what we discussed about personal satisfaction! (obviously be more happy with a 50. haha. but thats sorta out of the question now. :P)
(btw, isn't it funny how we're talking about Further in a Methods thread? haha! sorry methods peeps! :D)
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Synesthetic got 49 last year and dropped 2 marks overall with an A+ SAC mark (although not in the top few of the school I believe, but our cohort is quite strong). 4 marks really isn't going to get net 49. =/
I'm guessing this year 2 marks max is probs 50 and 3 marks is around 49. 4 - 5 for 48.
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Haha well not really - I could have lost more!!
We didn't use Essentials for Further. I used it for Methods, I thought it was of a really good standard. I got really annoyed with that question, it was for only 2 marks and took up so much working!
Sorry Methods people =P
And TrueTears - do you reckon Methods was harder this year or easier?
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Haha well not really - I could have lost more!!
We didn't use Essentials for Further. I used it for Methods, I thought it was of a really good standard. I got really annoyed with that question, it was for only 2 marks and took up so much working!
Sorry Methods people =P
And TrueTears - do you reckon Methods was harder this year or easier?
mmm I didn't it was harder, but it was more "trickier" so I guess more careless marks will be lost.
But who knows we will see soon.
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i lost 3 marks all up - 39 and 78
ranked 1st in sacs at yavneh (strong school)
can i stil get a 50?
thankss
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i lost 3 marks all up - 39 and 78
ranked 1st in sacs at yavneh (strong school)
can i stil get a 50?
thankss
Depends 49-50 I'd say.
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Synesthetic got 49 last year and dropped 2 marks overall with an A+ SAC mark (although not in the top few of the school I believe, but our cohort is quite strong). 4 marks really isn't going to get net 49. =/
:(
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thanks guys
hey TT so lets say i got:
39/40 for exam 1 (im assuming i dont lose a mark for not putting a modulus and for the last question i said 'h' is too large giving a discrepancy, but im counting that as wrong)
**/80 ( i dont how many marks ill lose, i got all the MC right, and for the composite function question i didnt use modulus - its always the modulus- thats 1 marks off?, and followed it up with only one solution for the derivative function - another mark off? and i also lost 1 mark somewhere else.)
so assuming my estimations are correct,
77/80 for exam 2
wat study score range is possible??
thanks
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You'll probably lose a mark for not putting the modulus signs in exam 1.
Either way, losing 5 marks across both exams is probably going to net you 45-48ish.
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if i was ranked first at my school (western suburb school) and i lost 15 marks on both exmas what study score would i get ??
above 45 plz? :)
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if i was ranked first at my school (western suburb school) and i lost 15 marks on both exmas what study score would i get ??
above 45 plz? :)
Not likely.
I think a maximum of 40.
What has really confused me was that some guy said he got 44 for losing 6.5 marks with A+ sacs in a decent cohort.
Whereas other people who lose like 4.5, get a high 40's
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if i was ranked first at my school (western suburb school) and i lost 15 marks on both exmas what study score would i get ??
above 45 plz? :)
Not likely.
I think a maximum of 40.
damn. but then it really depneds on how well the whole states go so i might go up a bit right T__T shattered*
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if i was ranked first at my school (western suburb school) and i lost 15 marks on both exmas what study score would i get ??
above 45 plz? :)
Not likely.
I think a maximum of 40.
damn. but then it really depneds on how well the whole states go so i might go up a bit right T__T shattered*
Just out of curiosity, how would you rate the strength of your school's methods students?
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if i was ranked first at my school (western suburb school) and i lost 15 marks on both exmas what study score would i get ??
above 45 plz? :)
Not likely.
I think a maximum of 40.
damn. but then it really depneds on how well the whole states go so i might go up a bit right T__T shattered*
Just out of curiosity, how would you rate the strength of your school's methods students?
i dont want to be mean but the ALP class is more bright then the year 12s :S so i suppose there is a bunch of smart ppl and a bunch of not so birhgt ppl and a few in the middle ???1 oh no i hope no1 form my school rreads this