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VCE Stuff => VCE English Studies => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE English & EAL => Topic started by: Aqualim on November 16, 2009, 07:27:03 pm
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For those of you who are
participating enduring English in 2010, what books/films/plays are you studying? and how well do you think you'll perform?
Our cohort is reading 'Year of Wonders' and is watching 'Look Both Ways' for our reading and responding area of study, as well as reading 'The Crucible' & 'The Rugmaker of Mazar-E-Sharif' for our context pieces.
Personally I think it's an interesting selection of books, since I have never heard of them before, due to the fact the english thread has been bombarded with 'A man for all seasons', and 'The Kite Runner'.
I'm hoping to achieve a 40, maybe high 30.
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im not doing it but my school is doing:
the catcher in the rye - salinger
a man for all seasons - bolt
growing up asian in australia - pung
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We're doing Richard III, A Streetcar Named Desire and a bunch of texts that I can't remember. :p
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I'm doing
-A man for all seasons (Bolt)
-1984 (Orwell) Teacher has changed to the movie On the Waterfront
Context: Encountering Conflict
-The Crucible
-The Secret River
Really hoping[working] for 40+working bloody hard for 45+ in reality
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For those of you who are participating enduring English in 2010, what books/films/plays are you studying? and how well do you think you'll perform?
Our cohort is reading 'Year of Wonders' and is watching 'Look Both Ways' for our reading and responding area of study, as well as reading 'The Crucible' & 'The Rugmaker of Mazar-E-Sharif' for our context pieces.
Personally I think it's an interesting selection of books, since I have never heard of them before, due to the fact the english thread has been bombarded with 'A man for all seasons', and 'The Kite Runner'.
I'm hoping to achieve a 40, maybe high 30.
Wow, my school is doing the exact same texts as yours. I'm hoping for a 35-40.
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We're doing Richard III, A Streetcar Named Desire and a bunch of texts that I can't remember. :p
I'm not quite sure all of what we're doing, but we're doing A Streetcar Named Desire too! Think we're also studying Hard Times...
As for my study score aim? It's ridiculously, ridiculously high, so I'm not going to write it here. Yet. I'm not quite ready to set myself up for failure.
I'm really looking forward to English though. I love exploring themes through language, and I adore delving into the deep semantics of texts, so it should be fun. :)
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A Man For All Seasons
Look Both Ways
Catcher In The Rye
Witness
I think. It would help if the school gave us our book lists already. Anyway, I'm pretty stoked for A Man For All Seasons and not so much Catcher In The Rye and I don't know much/anything about the films. I'm aiming for 40+ but would be pleased with 35+ because despite English being my one of my stronger subjects I have no confidence in it. Bahhh.
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We're doing Richard III, A Streetcar Named Desire and a bunch of texts that I can't remember. :p
I'm not quite sure all of what we're doing, but we're doing A Streetcar Named Desire too! Think we're also studying Hard Times...
As for my study score aim? It's ridiculously, ridiculously high, so I'm not going to write it here. Yet. I'm not quite ready to set myself up for failure.
I'm really looking forward to English though. I love exploring themes through language, and I adore delving into the deep semantics of texts, so it should be fun. :)
Haha, I'm personally hoping for 45+... Will have lots of fun getting stressed out next year. :p
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Haha, I'm personally hoping for 50... Will have lots of fun getting stressed out next year. :p
I think this what you really meant :P
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We're doing Richard III, A Streetcar Named Desire and a bunch of texts that I can't remember. :p
I'm not quite sure all of what we're doing, but we're doing A Streetcar Named Desire too! Think we're also studying Hard Times...
As for my study score aim? It's ridiculously, ridiculously high, so I'm not going to write it here. Yet. I'm not quite ready to set myself up for failure.
I'm really looking forward to English though. I love exploring themes through language, and I adore delving into the deep semantics of texts, so it should be fun. :)
Haha, I'm personally hoping for 45+... Will have lots of fun getting stressed out next year. :p
Yay for getting stressed out! I'm aiming for similar scores, mostly because I'm in the state of *must-get-scholarship-for-university*
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For those of you who are participating enduring English in 2010, what books/films/plays are you studying? and how well do you think you'll perform?
Our cohort is reading 'Year of Wonders' and is watching 'Look Both Ways' for our reading and responding area of study, as well as reading 'The Crucible' & 'The Rugmaker of Mazar-E-Sharif' for our context pieces.
We're doing;
-Year of Wonders
- ( film) On the Water front
-the crucible
-Secret River
Do you know if there is any study guides for the novel, "Year of wonders?'
TC,
Souljette<3
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For those of you who are participating enduring English in 2010, what books/films/plays are you studying? and how well do you think you'll perform?
Our cohort is reading 'Year of Wonders' and is watching 'Look Both Ways' for our reading and responding area of study, as well as reading 'The Crucible' & 'The Rugmaker of Mazar-E-Sharif' for our context pieces.
Personally I think it's an interesting selection of books, since I have never heard of them before, due to the fact the english thread has been bombarded with 'A man for all seasons', and 'The Kite Runner'.
I'm hoping to achieve a 40, maybe high 30.
My school is doing exactly the same too!! ;)
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Isn't a man for all seasons the most popular book
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No it isn't, it was fourth last year. [taken from assessment report]
The most popular texts and their mean scores, out of a possible 10, were as follows.
Text |% of students | Average mark
Look Both Ways |26.0% |5.7
The Kite Runner |13.8% |5.4
Nineteen Eighty-Four |9.5% |6.2
A Man for All Seasons |8.3% |6.3
In the Lake of the Woods |6.9% |5.9
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Oh so it was the highest performing one
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Oh so it was the highest performing one
The report also says:
The highest mean scores were achieved by students who wrote on Hard Times, King Richard III, Selected Poems, (Slessor) and Collected Stories (Farmer).
But I'd imagine AMFAS would be up there. It was the highest performing one out of the 5 most popular ones.
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I feel so sad. I remember starting 2009, and seeing the "2009 English students". Now we have the 2010's, naww
Piece of advice? The year fly's by terrible fast. Savour it
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only know my text response texts:
a man for all seasons
1984
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I'm doing
-A man for all seasons (Bolt)
-1984 (Orwell) Teacher has changed to the movie On the Waterfront
Context: Encountering Conflict
-The Crucible
-The Secret River
Really hoping[working] for 40+working bloody hard for 45+ in reality
same but we have Cosi as a text as well
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if i'm forced to do english next year (i will probs cos my school isn't letting me doing EL outside of school >_>):
i think we are doing the Crucible, Life of Pi, Omagh and Cosi.
i'd aim for like 40+, but probs get about 10 ha.
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lol ok. So I lied earlier thanks to my new booklist.
I'm actually doing:
Cosi
1984
And then my context is Whose Reality? (omg damn them I wanted to do Identity and Belonging)
The Player (film)
A Streetcar Named Desire
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Don't complain about 'Whose Reality'. It's tres chouette.
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Don't complain about 'Whose Reality'. It's tres chouette.
I agree, I loved Whose Reality, glad my school did it.
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We are doing 'The Crucible', 'Maestro', and 'Into Thin Air', so ha (and damn) two ones not mentioned yet.
I wonder how Cosi is going to go. We're doing it too :).
Done Cosi this year, it was pretty short, easy and entertaining. Although it did make my teacher admit she is a communist and that she believes all males in our class will someday cheat...
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The crucible is one the best text i've read. Glad i'm doing it.
Souljette<3
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I am doing:
.1984
.Witness
.Cosi
.The catcher in the rye
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Don't complain about 'Whose Reality'. It's tres chouette.
In your reality, or mine? ^_~
I'm jealous to an extent of every other context in that they get to do some of my favourite texts (The Crucible, Catcher in the Rye). On the other hand, "Whose Reality?" has the most interesting context topic of them all...
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Don't complain about 'Whose Reality'. It's tres chouette.
In your reality, or mine? ^_~
I'm jealous to an extent of every other context in that they get to do some of my favourite texts (The Crucible, Catcher in the Rye). On the other hand, "Whose Reality?" has the most interesting context topic of them all...
You have opened up a can of worms here my friend! LOL, Identity and Belonging FTW
I have discovered SO MUCH about human minds and about myself! In the texts I have been able to make strong connections etc, to who I am and how I connect to the world! As well as comparing the context with people around me !!!
LOL, nah. IMO i think all the contexts are designed like this, to really enage you, and allow you to be philosophical
Only one thats crap is the Imaginative Landscape, WTF is that? LOL, sounds like you talk about fantasy o.O
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At my school, we get to choose what context we want to do between identity and belonging, whose reality and encountering conflict. It's good that way!! I am doing identity and belonging.
I reckon the imaginative landscape would be interesting!!! I probably would've chosen that if my school offered it.
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What?!
How on earth does that work? The reason schools choose one is so it can be like COLLECTIVE learning, and that we all say ideas related to the ONE theme.
Also, because of financial/resource constraints....it's easier to but a stack load of stuff about one context, than heaps on several.
That's really weird =S
But i suppose it has its merits
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My school is the biggest VCE provider in Victoria, so they have enough teachers to teach the three contexts.
And it's always worked well in the class, with students being interested in the context they study.
Plus I don't believe in the collective learning as a fantastic tool anyway. It only helps when revising with friends really in my opinion and I suppose I'm lucky in that most of my friends are doing identity and belonging haha.
I don't think finance is a big deal. I'm not sure but clearly they must manage fine. I mean, they'd still probably buy the same amount of resources for each context as other schools because of its size.
I know that identity and belonging is most popular, followed by whose reality and encountering conflict being about the same in terms of numbers.
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My school is the biggest VCE provider in Victoria, so they have enough teachers to teach the three contexts.
And it's always worked well in the class, with students being interested in the context they study.
Plus I don't believe in the collective learning as a fantastic tool anyway. It only helps when revising with friends really in my opinion and I suppose I'm lucky in that most of my friends are doing identity and belonging haha.
I don't think finance is a big deal. I'm not sure but clearly they must manage fine. I mean, they'd still probably buy the same amount of resources for each context as other schools because of its size.
I know that identity and belonging is most popular, followed by whose reality and encountering conflict being about the same in terms of numbers.
which school is this?
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My school is the biggest VCE provider in Victoria, so they have enough teachers to teach the three contexts.
And it's always worked well in the class, with students being interested in the context they study.
Plus I don't believe in the collective learning as a fantastic tool anyway. It only helps when revising with friends really in my opinion and I suppose I'm lucky in that most of my friends are doing identity and belonging haha.
I don't think finance is a big deal. I'm not sure but clearly they must manage fine. I mean, they'd still probably buy the same amount of resources for each context as other schools because of its size.
I know that identity and belonging is most popular, followed by whose reality and encountering conflict being about the same in terms of numbers.
which school is this?
im guessing bendigo? or st kevins?
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What do you mean by biggest VCE provider in terms of a school? School with largest cohort?
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Yes Bendigo Senior Secondary College. And it is the school with the most students undertaking VCE in Victoria.
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oh really cool..
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Over 1800 students TOTAL
Including 1100 VCEers
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Thats year 11+12 right? So how many Year 12's?
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It doest say, since the website where u check every schools performance (a thread I amde 2 days ago) shows NUMBER OF PEOPLE DOING A 3/4......this could include year 10's and even year 11's, but year 12's = roughly year 11's, so divide by half LOL, for a general idea
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Bendigo Senior only has year 11 and year 12 students. Our secondary schools go to year 10 and then we all go to that school (other than those going to a private or catholic school).
We have 1800 people doing VCE in years 11 and 12. And I don't know how many staff members there are but there are a lot. Hahaha.
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Yes but I like how it works. It means the school can also run the most subjects out of any school in Victoria and 98% of students get ALL of their first preference subject selection.
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Yeah it's great like that.
I think its unfortunate how many students cannot do what they like in VCE because of "minimum numbers"
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my school isnt the greatest but they have only had 1 or 2 girl in the schools history that didnt get to do 1 sub in year 12 cos of numbers... so that proves that you dont need to have a large amount of people in the year level (we only have 180) for everyone to get the preferences they want (this may be also due to the fact that they would run classes for 4 or 5 students)
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Do they teach latin? :P
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It's also about schools not OFFERING subjects
Lotrs of schools dont offer geography, politics, hebrew, Latin etc, not NECESSARILY because of numbers, but also because a shortage of teachers in that field who TEACH.
But I guess with English in 2010 we don't need to worry about it not being run *subtly attempts to push back on topic*
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a friend of mine isn't allowed to do bio because there are three 'full' classes (20 per class MAX?) how kind of my school .__.
&there are a bunch of others in my grade who aren't allowed to do subjects for reasons such as these.
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Wtf...? As if they can't put another student in? That's tight??
yeah my vce co-ord is so mean haha. i keep going to see her about doing englang outside of school and she refuses to give her approval... im seeing her again tomorrowwwwww in the morning to make an appointment for the afternoon .__.
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^ haha i know, she's like. sorry can't approve of two subjects, not gonna do it - why dont you leave the school then. cruel lady.. i'll fight with her tomorrow and hope i can!
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DOES ANYONE WANT MY HANDOUTS/NOTES ON ANY OF THESE BOOKS ? If you do, check the selling forum or PM ME ! Notes and loose sheets are for free
(The Kite Runner, Identity and Belonging, Look Both Ways)
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Ohh because of your MUEP too?
yeah its apparently school policy - no doing two subjects out of school.
ive got a meeting with head of senior school so hope it all works out:)
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Ohh because of your MUEP too?
yeah its apparently school policy - no doing two subjects out of school.
ive got a meeting with head of senior school so hope it all works out:)
WHAT THE HELL.
THEY CANNOT IMPEACH ON WHAT YOU DO OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL. Thats like saying "you cannot do a LOTE outside of school" imagine if u had to drop one....
Thats ridicolous, you're not the only person I have heard this from.
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^ yeah i know it's really bad especially being my final year. she literally told me that she doesn't care about me - only rules. it's why im seeing the head of senor school, and the secretary was annoyed that i am going to 'waste her time' lol i'll be so annoyed if i can't get in.
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20 people makes a full class? It's always been 25 at my school. I've heard that you have to do at least 4 subjects a year to be counted as a student at a school. But that's probably bs since my friend's only doing 3.
Good luck getting your subjects sorted.
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Yea, some schools has their own regulations. Some people are forced to do 7 subjects even when they done 2 in year 11 (3/4's) and require 5 in year 12.
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20 people makes a full class? It's always been 25 at my school. I've heard that you have to do at least 4 subjects a year to be counted as a student at a school. But that's probably bs since my friend's only doing 3.
Good luck getting your subjects sorted.
yeah 20 at mine.
well 3 at school, 2 out. that still counts me as a student at the school since i'll be there in my spares and such?
i've heard of people from other schools who did only 3 at school too...
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You know what all this fuss is about.....
FUNDING.....and ensuring teachers are WORKING/ so they are not employed for no reason.
Like, maybe the GOVERNMENT defines a class as "x" and many schools want u to do "x" subjects at school so as to be able to retain a teacher to teach it/ get funding for you as a full time student AT SCHOOl.
....Just a guess
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We're doing Maestro (<3), Catcher in the Rye, Look Both Ways, and Sometimes Gladness. I'm aiming for 45+.
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Uhh...my schools doing:
Year Of Wonders
1984
Imaginative Landscape(no idea what that entails)
Robert Frost
and some Australian poetry book
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20 people makes a full class? It's always been 25 at my school. I've heard that you have to do at least 4 subjects a year to be counted as a student at a school. But that's probably bs since my friend's only doing 3.
Good luck getting your subjects sorted.
Haha my Chinese 1/2 class this year had 8-10 ppl.
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20 people makes a full class? It's always been 25 at my school. I've heard that you have to do at least 4 subjects a year to be counted as a student at a school. But that's probably bs since my friend's only doing 3.
Good luck getting your subjects sorted.
Haha my Chinese 1/2 class this year had 8-10 ppl.
My methods class had 3 :P
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^ lol that would mean no messing around because the teacher can attend to all of you
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Yeah.
One of the three didn't even sit the exams. ???