Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on November 29, 2009, 09:25:40 pm
Tentatively asking, how does one become an astrophysicist? What kind of Maths does this involve? Are there good job prospects? What about the pay?
Please help!
Thank you!
Post by: crappy on November 29, 2009, 09:29:39 pm
Hi everyone,
Tentatively asking, how does one become an astrophysicist? What kind of Maths does this involve? Are there good job prospects? What about the pay?
Please help!
Thank you!
There is a really cool link on ABC Ace jobs - http://www.abc.net.au/acedayjobs/cooljobs/profiles/s2384514.htm
well, very quickly:
Job prospects are very bad, not many in australia, you would have to go overseas.
The pay is awesome if you have a high position
Not sure about the maths
You would have to do a PhD
Im also thinking about Astrophysics, such an interesting and cool science!!!!
Post by: mark_alec on November 29, 2009, 09:34:10 pm
Generally speaking, you will want to do an undergraduate degree majoring in Maths or Physics, and a PhD in Astrophysics.
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on November 30, 2009, 12:03:23 am
True, so it's more of a government/research position?
Right, I'd so want to major in Maths. Do you know any other careers involving a Maths major - I don't think Actuarial Studies does, doesn't that mainly consist of business/probability type maths?
Post by: humph on November 30, 2009, 02:32:23 am
I know, crappy, it sounds AWESOME! =Dhttp://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/10/26/cb.ten.math.jobs/
True, so it's more of a government/research position?
Right, I'd so want to major in Maths. Do you know any other careers involving a Maths major - I don't think Actuarial Studies does, doesn't that mainly consist of business/probability type maths?
Post by: QuantumJG on November 30, 2009, 11:47:47 am
Hi everyone,
Tentatively asking, how does one become an astrophysicist? What kind of Maths does this involve? Are there good job prospects? What about the pay?
Please help!
Thank you!
To become an astrophysicist you would need a physics major in your undergraduate degree or you could do a maths major where you would atleast have a physics minor.
The maths involved would be in the pure/applied area. Astrophysics would involve general relativity, quantum mechanics, etc.
Job prospects aren't that good (it's not a job a lot of people do, it's a job a very select few will pick) you won't expect a lot of job offers. You could always become a university academic. Pay would depend on experience, what you are researching, who has hired you, etc.
I know, crappy, it sounds AWESOME! =D
True, so it's more of a government/research position?
Right, I'd so want to major in Maths. Do you know any other careers involving a Maths major
Having a maths major will give you great job prospects, since everything requires maths. You could enter the commerce section if you have the right maths, engineering companies may hire you if are great at doing computer models.
Maths is one of those areas of science that could have great prospects for you because of what you can do. You have probably heard this before, but if you did specialist maths you would have aced it and could have accelerated what maths you do at uni.
Humph does the PhB at ANU have a bridging subject for specialist maths? Ilovemathsmethods, you could easily get the ENTER for the PhB at ANU and that would probably be the best place to do a maths degree.
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on November 30, 2009, 03:48:11 pm
Post by: zzdfa on November 30, 2009, 04:07:40 pm
Post by: QuantumJG on November 30, 2009, 04:13:25 pm
If I want to major in Maths at Melb Uni, do I go about it by undertaking a Science degree with a major in Maths and Statistics?
Yes.
Now because you haven't done specialist maths in VCE you will need to do calculus 1 (basically the important parts of specialist maths taught in 12 weeks), then you will need to do linear algebra and calculus 2. Since you got great marks for maths methods you could ask if you can do calculus 2 and linear algebra at the same time in semester 2.
You could probably teach yourself everything in calculus 1 before uni starts. I have also included a calculus 1 exam.
If you would like to have more careers open to you, you could do a bachelor of commerce and a diploma of maths (basically a major in maths). This will probably extend your degree by an extra half year, but you will have more career options open to you.
Post by: QuantumJG on November 30, 2009, 04:15:26 pm
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on November 30, 2009, 04:19:29 pm
Thanks for the exam =)
I was wondering - I like the calculus type Maths - where is this kind of Maths used? I don't think it's used in Actuarial...is it?
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on November 30, 2009, 04:22:45 pm
How do you study at Uni - are the reference materials kind of like VCE checkpoints/exam busters etc and you go through them for extra practice?
Post by: QuantumJG on November 30, 2009, 04:31:13 pm
The exam looks awesome, this is the kind of subject I'd like to study.
How do you study at Uni - are the reference materials kind of like VCE checkpoints/exam busters etc and you go through them for extra practice?
With maths you are given an excercise book that covers every topic. You also have weekly tutorials where you are given 7 questions to do thats related to what you are doing in lectures. Studying for maths is basically just going through those problems and making sure you know what to do with each question. As for extra practice I'm sure you could ask your lecturer for more questions to do if you don't find what you are given is enough.
As for actuarial studies I think you need a study score of atleast 38 in specialist maths to do the major (check with the uni for this), because in first year you need to do accelerated maths 1 and 2. Also I dug up a cool thing about actuarial studies:
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Typically, a newly qualified actuary would earn around $95,000-$110,000 per annum, with at least an $11,000 increase per year for several years. More senior, experienced professionals would earn in the vicinity of $200,000 per annum.
also visit (http://www.bcom.unimelb.edu.au/bachelor/majors/actuarial_studies.html#act_courseplan) for the course plan
Post by: Gloamglozer on November 30, 2009, 04:42:04 pm
The exam looks awesome, this is the kind of subject I'd like to study.
How do you study at Uni - are the reference materials kind of like VCE checkpoints/exam busters etc and you go through them for extra practice?
With maths you are given an excercise book that covers every topic. You also have weekly tutorials where you are given 7 questions to do thats related to what you are doing in lectures. Studying for maths is basically just going through those problems and making sure you know what to do with each question.
How about short answer questions? Are those 7 questions usually short answer (like worded problems with part a,b,c, etc.) or are they like "differentiate the following"?
Post by: QuantumJG on November 30, 2009, 04:46:43 pm
The exam looks awesome, this is the kind of subject I'd like to study.
How do you study at Uni - are the reference materials kind of like VCE checkpoints/exam busters etc and you go through them for extra practice?
With maths you are given an excercise book that covers every topic. You also have weekly tutorials where you are given 7 questions to do thats related to what you are doing in lectures. Studying for maths is basically just going through those problems and making sure you know what to do with each question.
How about short answer questions? Are those 7 questions usually short answer (like worded problems with part a,b,c, etc.) or are they like "differentiate the following"?
They are questions with parts a,b,c,etc.
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on November 30, 2009, 04:54:35 pm
Do most people find what they are given is usually enough to score high marks?
Post by: QuantumJG on November 30, 2009, 05:08:49 pm
Thanks heaps! =)
Do most people find what they are given is usually enough to score high marks?
I found it really easy to do well in calculus 2 with just the lecture notes, the problem booklet and the tutorials. You also have sit a test and hand in 3 assignments with calc 2.
In linear algebra you have the lecture notes, problem booklets, tutorial sheets, computer lab handouts, 10 assignments and 2 MATLAB tests.
Going by the handbook in calculus 1 you also have 10 assignments to complete (an assignment will usually have around 3 questions to complete)
Post by: QuantumJG on November 30, 2009, 05:22:28 pm
Post by: Gloamglozer on November 30, 2009, 05:27:19 pm
mods you should change this from how to be an actuary/studying maths in first year uni.
She can do it as well, I think. lol. Guess she should put:
"How to become an astrophysicist, then what's actuarial maths, then how to survive first year uni maths"
I wonder if it will fit. :P lol
Post by: QuantumJG on November 30, 2009, 05:31:24 pm
I am currently wandering around venice (1481) with Leonardo da Vinci. Well not really of course, in assassin's creed 2.
Just imagine if you could go back in time and see some historical figures in their prime with their field of interest.
Post by: kendraaaaa on November 30, 2009, 05:56:31 pm
To be more off the point.
I am currently wandering around venice (1481) with Leonardo da Vinci. Well not really of course, in assassin's creed 2.
Just imagine if you could go back in time and see some historical figures in their prime with their field of interest.
Me too! Haha playing AC2 right now.
Post by: QuantumJG on November 30, 2009, 06:21:47 pm
To be more off the point.
I am currently wandering around venice (1481) with Leonardo da Vinci. Well not really of course, in assassin's creed 2.
Just imagine if you could go back in time and see some historical figures in their prime with their field of interest.
Me too! Haha playing AC2 right now.
2 more seals away from getting Altair's armour!
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on November 30, 2009, 06:28:11 pm
And my qs were pretty off topic ... =P
Post by: crappy on November 30, 2009, 07:46:22 pm
To be more off the point.
I am currently wandering around venice (1481) with Leonardo da Vinci. Well not really of course, in assassin's creed 2.
Just imagine if you could go back in time and see some historical figures in their prime with their field of interest.
Me too! Haha playing AC2 right now.
2 more seals away from getting Altair's armour!
Altaires armour is a massive disappointment, you'll see
Post by: trinon on December 05, 2009, 02:44:33 am
If I want to major in Maths at Melb Uni, do I go about it by undertaking a Science degree with a major in Maths and Statistics?
Yes.
Now because you haven't done specialist maths in VCE you will need to do calculus 1 (basically the important parts of specialist maths taught in 12 weeks), then you will need to do linear algebra and calculus 2. Since you got great marks for maths methods you could ask if you can do calculus 2 and linear algebra at the same time in semester 2.
You could probably teach yourself everything in calculus 1 before uni starts. I have also included a calculus 1 exam.
If you would like to have more careers open to you, you could do a bachelor of commerce and a diploma of maths (basically a major in maths). This will probably extend your degree by an extra half year, but you will have more career options open to you.
Are there worked solutions for the exam you attached?
Post by: slothpomba on December 05, 2009, 03:54:48 am
Post by: QuantumJG on December 05, 2009, 10:58:16 am
If I want to major in Maths at Melb Uni, do I go about it by undertaking a Science degree with a major in Maths and Statistics?
Yes.
Now because you haven't done specialist maths in VCE you will need to do calculus 1 (basically the important parts of specialist maths taught in 12 weeks), then you will need to do linear algebra and calculus 2. Since you got great marks for maths methods you could ask if you can do calculus 2 and linear algebra at the same time in semester 2.
You could probably teach yourself everything in calculus 1 before uni starts. I have also included a calculus 1 exam.
If you would like to have more careers open to you, you could do a bachelor of commerce and a diploma of maths (basically a major in maths). This will probably extend your degree by an extra half year, but you will have more career options open to you.
Are there worked solutions for the exam you attached?
No.
But I'm sure if you create a new topic asking for help with particular questions there will be someone who can give a solution.
Before tackling this exam myself I need to refresh my memory on this stuff. Lol!
Post by: trinon on December 05, 2009, 11:21:03 am
No.
But I'm sure if you create a new topic asking for help with particular questions there will be someone who can give a solution.
Before tackling this exam myself I need to refresh my memory on this stuff. Lol!
Yeah, that's the thing exactly. A year ago I could have achieved >90% on this with an hour to spare. When I looked at it yesterday I realised that I had forgotten that
Lot's of remembering to do >_<
Post by: QuantumJG on December 05, 2009, 12:54:01 pm
No.
But I'm sure if you create a new topic asking for help with particular questions there will be someone who can give a solution.
Before tackling this exam myself I need to refresh my memory on this stuff. Lol!
Yeah, that's the thing exactly. A year ago I could have achieved >90% on this with an hour to spare. When I looked at it yesterday I realised that I had forgotten that.
Lot's of remembering to do >_<
lol!
Me not doing any calculus in ages has made really rusty in calculus.
Post by: QuantumJG on December 06, 2009, 02:30:49 pm
I was actually recommended VN from a BoS user, since, VN is for Victorian students. I want to know how many BoS users have created accounts on VN. I know one of my friends off BoS has recently joined VN (addikaye... - I think that's his profile name).
Btw: I'm Joel8945 on BoS.
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on December 06, 2009, 03:21:56 pm
Post by: /0 on December 06, 2009, 06:58:14 pm
VN is so much better
Post by: NE2000 on December 06, 2009, 07:03:03 pm
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on December 06, 2009, 09:42:34 pm
Post by: /0 on December 06, 2009, 09:46:29 pm
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on December 06, 2009, 09:50:13 pm
Post by: m@tty on December 06, 2009, 10:12:09 pm
I can remember when I was on BoS (I think I joined BoS when I got my ENTER, I first came across BoS when I was googling study methods for English) I came across this (http://community.boredofstudies.org/416/mathematical-methods/186323/50-mathematical-methods.html).BoS is dead :buck2:
I was actually recommended VN from a BoS user, since, VN is for Victorian students. I want to know how many BoS users have created accounts on VN. I know one of my friends off BoS has recently joined VN (addikaye... - I think that's his profile name).
Btw: I'm Joel8945 on BoS.
I'm M-at-tty ;)
EDIT: We should go raid their users. Save them. :police:
Post by: NE2000 on December 08, 2009, 11:42:16 am
Do you mean the people who responded to the post?
er...I just meant that it isn't wise to talk about studying three hours hardcore before a SAC
a) because studying hardcore right before a SAC isn't a smart move and
b) because people immediately get a weird inferiority complex and will obviously lash out against you
Honestly you could've avoided the situation if you had said.
"I was really hoping for a 50 in methods because I like the subject and I've worked really hard for it. But I lost 3 marks in my last SAC [which may be an A], after getting close to perfect in other SACs. Probably ranked top 5 in a strong cohort. Can I get a 50?"
If anyone had told you to get a life for saying that then they are saying that high marks = no life which is plain wrong, so no-one would say it. What caused the reaction that you received (not saying it was justified; it was probably due to the aforementioned development of an inferiority complex) was the bit about how you self-taught the course, had a headache etc. etc.
Think about it this way: you had a massive headache and lost 2-3 marks. Many people who are perfectionists/high achievers will identify with that, many others will be saying: what are you complaining about?
The reason I said that it was tactless is because there was no need for the situation to come down to accusations of 'no life' and arrogance. You didn't have to prove to randoms on the internet that you were hard working. If you prove that to yourself and the people that know you best, you should be contented.
If anything in this post annoys you then rest assured it wasn't intended to.
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on December 08, 2009, 12:03:28 pm
I was just obsessed with Methods last year, it was an obsession of mine to get 50. It didn't happen though.
I didn't intend for people to develop an inferiority complex - see I assumed that all BOS members would be perfectionists and would relate to this. So when I got those replies I was a bit confused =P
Yeah, that put me off BOS - having to argue over the internet about whether or not I think I'm hardworking - VN is HEAPS better!
Another addiction of mine: this website. It's great, really =D
Yeah - never ever study hard core before a SAC - it doesn't work!
Post by: turley on December 15, 2009, 11:21:12 pm
a person i know was into that astro-stuff
he ended up in teaching
=)
*BUT his arguably the best teacher i've ever had
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on December 16, 2009, 01:15:38 am
if this helps
a person i know was into that astro-stuff
he ended up in teaching
=)
*BUT his arguably the best teacher i've ever had
Awesome ENTER score.