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VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: thanh.21 on January 07, 2010, 10:49:42 am
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hmm i think i have a problem. i cant study for more then 2 hours a day (holidays), and reading through some of these threads some ppl are like doing 5 hours plus ( on normal school nights). i dont know, i think i cant seem to keep myself awake sometimes.
on good days 2 hours would be max...
how long should i study for? and what could we do to last longer? ;)
thanks in advance
ps im starting year 12 this year
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Depends on the person. It's not how long you study for but how effectively you do it. ( EG: spending 3-4 hours staring at one question is pointless).
My teachers recommended 4 hours/night during a school day.
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oh thanks cataclysmic =] . i guess that makes sense .
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I recommend 5 hours of study each day during VCE. If you're doing any less, you're not trying...
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I recommend 5 hours of study each day during VCE. If you're doing any less, you're not trying...
I disagree. The amount of study should reflect your own abilities and learning styles. I probably didn't do much more than an hour or two a night, with a bit more on the weekend.
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I think I would actuall go crazy if I tried to study 5 hours a day.
My maximum during term was usually around 3 hours in year 11, and that was only when I had an English Language SAC the next day and I was trying to quickly memorise a bunch of quotes/linguistic terms. Most of the time it was between 0 and 1 hour. I'll probably end up working a lot in my frees this year, so that I can have some time at home to relax.
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Just study the maximum amount you can each day that you can be consistent with throughout the year. Most people only do VCE once, so it pays to do it right.
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Agreed. Although with year 12 come a lot of opportunities, and I think it's important to seize them in conjunction with attempting to achieve high marks.
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I recommend 5 hours of study each day during VCE. If you're doing any less, you're not trying...
I disagree. The amount of study should reflect your own abilities and learning styles. I probably didn't do much more than an hour or two a night, with a bit more on the weekend.
I agree with you.
There's no need to do hours each day, its possible to do really well with just minor homework. with just studying quite a few hours before sacs and then the exam.
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I agree with you.
There's no need to do hours each day, its possible to do really well with just minor homework. with just studying quite a few hours before sacs and then the exam.
yes, but everyone's different so I don't think you should assume what works for you may work for everyone. The truth is everyone's doing different subjects so everyone will have different study requirements to get a specific ENTER/ATAR. It's also apparent that not everyone will be getting 99.95, though studying a few hours a day will get you awfully close.
I am also aware that there may be people out there who can pull an awfully high ENTER/ATAR with only 1-2 hours a day but you'd want to feel as though you've given it your best.
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I agree with you.
There's no need to do hours each day, its possible to do really well with just minor homework. with just studying quite a few hours before sacs and then the exam.
yes, but everyone's different so I don't think you should assume what works for you may work for everyone. The truth is everyone's doing different subjects so everyone will have different study requirements to get a specific ENTER/ATAR. It's also apparent that not everyone will be getting 99.95, though studying a few hours a day will get you awfully close.
I am also aware that there may be people out there who can pull an awfully high ENTER/ATAR with only 1-2 hours a day but you'd want to feel as though you've given it your best.
this is true.
however, if you find a way to use your time efficiently, you can reduce a lot of study time.
i didn't mean 99.95 high, i meant 97-98 range, which i'm sure some could reach will much, much less study in comparison with someone aiming for 99.50+
if i was aiming for 99.95, i would be doing a ridiculous amount of study, but considering i'm not as i don't think it's actually possible, i won't be trying THAT hard. heh :P
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I recommend 5 hours of study each day during VCE. If you're doing any less, you're not trying...
Pfft. No offence, but I dont think you can preach this sort of intensity when you get a study score of 31 for bio and its the only 3-4 you were doing for the year. Unless you only had the capacity to get a 20 with little study.
I dont think you need to set a time of how long youll be sitting at your desk for. You need to set a reasonable amount of work for yourself and stop when youve completed it all.
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I wasn't as committed last year as I am now. And yes, there was a lot of time that I wasted that I could have spent studying more. I got really complacent and lazy with bio, especially during unit 4 after a dissappointing mid-year result. I could have spent more time doing practice exams instead of mucking around with friends and procrastinating. All I am trying to do is give my best advice through the mistakes that I've made in the past. If it's anyone's opinion that matter's it would be from someone who's made the most mistakes and learnt the most from them.
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On average I plan to complete between 30 and 90 minutes on a normal school night. Though these are only a guide and on the actual night I will not think 'I must do an hour and a half', rather I will set task objectives rather than time objectives. For example, 'I must work through and understand/revise this chapter'. This is because I find that time aims often lead to procrastination.
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I wasn't as committed last year as I am now. And yes, there was a lot of time that I wasted that I could have spent studying more. I got really complacent and lazy with bio, especially during unit 4 after a dissappointing mid-year result. I could have spent more time doing practice exams instead of mucking around with friends and procrastinating. All I am trying to do is give my best advice through the mistakes that I've made in the past. If it's anyone's opinion that matter's it would be from someone who's made the most mistakes and learnt the most from them.
Well its good to see that youve come to your senses. So have I over these holidays.
5 hours a night is excessive. Sure you should be prepared to spend more than that on a particular night but 5 hours for the WHOLE year.. not many could keep up with that. Some people may fall off the bandwagon after a month and become so disillusioned, thinking they dont deserve a good ENTER score, so they stop trying.
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oh cool . but what about for holidays guys?
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Well its good to see that youve come to your senses. So have I over these holidays.
5 hours a night is excessive. Sure you should be prepared to spend more than that on a particular night but 5 hours for the WHOLE year.. not many could keep up with that. Some people may fall off the bandwagon after a month and become so disillusioned, thinking they dont deserve a good ENTER score, so they stop trying.
Ok, well 5 hours is a good aim. There's nothing wrong with aiming more than what you can do. This will help push you further. But I guess, 3-4 hours is sufficient. And perhaps 1 hour is sufficient for some, depending what subjects your doing and your overall natural talent for your subjects. VCE is about pushing yourself further than what you believe you can achieve. In fact, it's just because of this lack of confidence that people don't do as well as they could.
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To aim for 5 hours a night for a whole year when youre coming of a year of next-to-no study is borderline delusional. You'd need to have a permanent monumental shift in attitude to pull it off. Which is something you cannot EXPECT.
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To aim for 5 hours a night for a whole year when youre coming of a year of next-to-no study is borderline delusional. You'd need to have a permanent monumental shift in attitude to pull it off. Which is something you cannot EXPECT.
Is this directed towards me or thanh.21? I can reassure you that I have been doing this a few months now and I feel pretty good about it. I guess, I could burn out later I don't know. This amount may not be ideal for everyone, some may want to do more (especially during the holidays) for others it may be too little. People are different, so just do the maximum amount that you can without burning out later. 5 hours of study each day isn't even that much. :o
As for the holidays, I would probably do the same amount. It's more about doing as much as you can while still being consistent.
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Guys, guys. It seems as though we're giving boysenberry a bit of a hard time! I think it's agreed by most that 5 hours isn't healthy, but if someone wants to do that, it's their own choice. We all obviously want to do well in VCE, but lots of us aren't prepared to work that much when we can get similar scores by doing less AND do other things at the same time. But everyone's different.
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To aim for 5 hours a night for a whole year when youre coming of a year of next-to-no study is borderline delusional. You'd need to have a permanent monumental shift in attitude to pull it off. Which is something you cannot EXPECT.
If you have enough determination and mental stamina you can pull it off. I did nothing in year 11. Worked 5 hours a night in year 12. Still didn't do as well as I could have hoped, but oh well.
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My year 12 coordinator said at an assembly we must do a minimum of 4 hours a night...Of course the guy seems to think the place is better than what it is (eh, wants it to be a wannabe private school I guess yet why are our year 12 jumpers just cheap overpriced rugby tops.).
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Guys, guys. It seems as though we're giving boysenberry a bit of a hard time! I think it's agreed by most that 5 hours isn't healthy, but if someone wants to do that, it's their own choice. We all obviously want to do well in VCE, but lots of us aren't prepared to work that much when we can get similar scores by doing less AND do other things at the same time. But everyone's different.
Oh c'mon 5 hours a day is not that much. Can't somebody back me up? :o
There are loads of people who work harder than me. Maybe they're are all busy studying? Or maybe this site's just full of hyporcrites. Sorry, somebody's gotta say it, there's no other explanation... :(
If you have enough determination and mental stamina you can pull it off. I did nothing in year 11. Worked 5 hours a night in year 12. Still didn't do as well as I could have hoped, but oh well.
No way, so you're saying it might not be enough. Not enough practice exams? I knew I wasn't a try-hard. :)
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If you have enough determination and mental stamina you can pull it off. I did nothing in year 11. Worked 5 hours a night in year 12. Still didn't do as well as I could have hoped, but oh well.
No way, so you're saying it might not be enough. Not enough practice exams? I knew I wasn't a try-hard. :)
5 hours a night is definitely enough. But it may not be enough if you do not use that time efficiently. Sometimes the desire to procrastinate does become overwhelming...
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Oh c'mon 5 hours a day is not that much. Can't somebody back me up? :o
There are loads of people who work harder than me. Maybe they're are all busy studying? Or maybe this site's just full of hyporcrites. Sorry, somebody's gotta say it, there's no other explanation... :(
5 hours is alright on a day when you didnt go to school but 5 hours after spending 8 hours at school is too much for me, every single day at least. I can and will do that some days but sure as hell not every day.
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Oh c'mon 5 hours a day is not that much. Can't somebody back me up? :o
There are loads of people who work harder than me. Maybe they're are all busy studying? Or maybe this site's just full of hyporcrites. Sorry, somebody's gotta say it, there's no other explanation... :(
5 hours is alright on a day when you didnt go to school but 5 hours after spending 8 hours at school is too much for me, every single day at least. I can and will do that some days but sure as hell not every day.
School goes for 8 hours?
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I think it's about working efficiently. Besides, everyone needs different amounts. Perhaps the people on here are just smarter than average and uber efficient?
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I would have thought 3 to 4 hours on a weeknight would be more than sufficent. I assume everyone has at least some spares during the day, and if you use that time well, it means not so much to do that night.
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Oh c'mon 5 hours a day is not that much. Can't somebody back me up? :o
I think it is too much for me, but you can do whatever suits you. I f you are spending 5 hours every night after school, how much time does that leave for relaxing? Assume you get home between and 4:30 that means studying till 9 or 9:30 and that is not including breaks or dinner or anything. How could anyone work more than that every night?
If you have enough determination and mental stamina you can pull it off. I did nothing in year 11. Worked 5 hours a night in year 12. Still didn't do as well as I could have hoped, but oh well.
No way, so you're saying it might not be enough. Not enough practice exams? I knew I wasn't a try-hard. :o :2funny:
I don't think that is what they are saying, 5 hours should be enough. You should work better, not longer, eliminate procrastination, capitalise on the time you've set aside already. 5 hours of smart work a night should be enough to pwn in all your subjects, I think the only thing that will alter this is your performance on the actual exam day(s).
There are loads of people who work harder than me. Maybe they're are all busy studying? Or maybe this site's just full of hyporcrites. Sorry, somebody's gotta say it, there's no other explanation... :(
How so?
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I think it all depends on what you are aiming for weighed against whether or not you are a natural student or not. If you are aiming for 95+ then a couple hours a night would be good, but if you are not aiming that high you don't need to work yourself into the ground.
For me personally I did very little homework throughout the year and I got 93, whcih for this site is reasonably low, but against the state is high and it is more than what I was hoping for. The only time I would really study was a couple of nights out from a SAC and even then it was max 2 hours. Most nights would be more like 30 mins - 1 hour. I did very little on weekends, and even less on holidays. During term 3 holidays I think I would have done about 4 hours over 3 weeks.
What I am trying to say is everyone is different and you don't need to put a figure on how much you need to study because you will just drive yourself into the ground. If you are going to deny yourself a life because you have to get 4 hours study in well I think there is something wrong there.
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I have a friend that worked 5 hours a night in year 11, he pretty much aced everything with full marks. Unfortunately, certain personal issues prevented him from doing the same in year 12.
I'm aiming for 4-5 hours of work each school night this year, with an hour or two of breaks.
Really, I would largely attribute an individual's ability to do a consistently heavy workload to his mental strength (which encompasses various factors, inc. determination, pressure/stress management etc).
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I have a friend that worked 5 hours a night in year 11, he pretty much aced everything with full marks. Unfortunately, certain personal issues prevented him from doing the same in year 12.
I'm aiming for 4-5 hours of work each school night this year, with an hour or two of breaks.
Really, I would largely attribute an individual's ability to do a consistently heavy workload to his mental strength (which encompasses various factors, inc. determination, pressure/stress management etc).
although i am very determined to do well, i would not be able to focus on doing any study for more then a couple of hours, unless i was stressed by a sac i had in a day or two.
so yeah it's very different for each person& so i'm jealous of those who are able to do many hours without distraction, go for it if you can. i'd be way to distracted..
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To aim for 5 hours a night for a whole year when youre coming of a year of next-to-no study is borderline delusional. You'd need to have a permanent monumental shift in attitude to pull it off. Which is something you cannot EXPECT.
You do know all these comments from you really have a negative effect on people, especially the topic starter. Your not meant to put down someone else's opinion like boysenberry. If he/she (sorry i dont know) wants to do 5 hrs a day then what does it have to do with you.
I also didn't perform that well in Biology this year (31) and it was my only 3/4, though I had a late start so to speak (I hadnt done 1/2 and there was a little bit of "chaos" which lead to me starting the course 2 weeks into term 1 of 3/4) but I am sure as hell going to try my best and keep going every single day because I have learnt from my mistakes. Then atleast I will be satisfied that I did the best I could and to back me up I know that my best was studying ATLEAST 4 hrs a day. I know how boysenberry feels and trust me its a shit feeling and the only way to change it is to study 4 hrs a day.
When you think about it 4 hrs isnt that much because it could mean different things. You come home at like 4 and you have almost done 1 hr of study at school because you are bound to have 1 spare every day. 3 hours left. Start studying at about 5-7. Another 2 hours done. Have some leisure time/dinner etc until about 9 30 and then do another 1.5hrs or more depending on when you are tired. maybe some light reading in bed which is also studying.
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I feel that this is the bare minimum of mental discipline I require to achieve my objectives. Certainly, though, I can see why others may find it unnecessary and overly taxing.
Many people cite their experiences of little study resulting in big payouts (ENTERs in the 90s), but in my opinion the increased workload is necessary to account for the exponential (?) increase in difficulty as you approach the very highest scores.
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Personally I think 4 to 5 hours every night is a bit over the top, unless you're multi-tasking. If I focus on any one thing for more than an hour I tend to lose interest, and forcing myself to do this every night doesn't seem fun. Unless there happens to be a SAC or an exam the next day, then it's different. =P
However, for those that do study a lot and can manage it, I think it's great - if you can put in the hard work, then why not? I think the amount of studying you do during a week should depend on your preferences and how well you study. Like in science subjects, if you grasp the concepts really well, then there's no need to do endless sample questions which are all basically the same thing.
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Personally I think 4 to 5 hours every night is a bit over the top, unless you're multi-tasking. If I focus on any one thing for more than an hour I tend to lose interest, and forcing myself to do this every night doesn't seem fun. Unless there happens to be a SAC or an exam the next day, then it's different. =P
However, for those that do study a lot and can manage it, I think it's great - if you can put in the hard work, then why not? I think the amount of studying you do during a week should depend on your preferences and how well you study. Like in science subjects, if you grasp the concepts really well, then there's no need to do endless sample questions which are all basically the same thing.
+1
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5 hours a night is excessive, and is not advised. I probably did a maximum of 4 hours per night in a very busy week with loads of SACs. It's basically not possible. People burn out, can't concentrate, can't focus - without breaks, you can't even do a 4hr study scheme.
However on holidays (especially September), I know that the recommended hours was 8 at my school. I didn't always get to that, consistently getting to about 5 - 7 hours. Even that is not really advised because I did get really fed up with VCE towards the end. Life became like a prison.
That said, it really depends on the person.
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4 hours of actual productive studying is a lot harder than just allocating a 4 hour period to studying; sometimes I can waste 30 minutes mentally fatigued and fiddling with my pen frustrated before I realize I need a break. In that case I wasted 30 minutes not working at peak productivity.
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I do agree that maintaining a consistent 5 hours a night is, to say the least, a difficult task. There will most likely be lapses from time to time; that's to be expected. This being said, if you work at a high level of efficiency, even with those discrepancies to account for, the turnover should be significant enough.
My planning does not only cover academic guidelines I want to follow, but rather I try to include any aspect that may have an effect on my output. I have certain measures to manage physical and mental health, which take into consideration as many realistic obstacles as possible, including many of which people have raised in this thread. And of course, the most important aspect of any plan is flexibility. I am prepared to and even expect to deal with various changes that have not yet presented itself.
Everybody is different, with their own limits, tendencies, habits and so on, but what remains a common element for all in their bid for success is the fundamental logic of compensating for these variable shortcomings. Understanding that you have failings, that these failings can be overcome and thus working to address them is crucial to achieving any particular objective, however minor or grand. This, I believe, is key to unveiling the avenue towards your aim.
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Yes, it depends not on the time but on the production. That is why I settled to set short-term goals for each day rather than allocating time, as that meant I would get the production I desired from myself. Also, if you do set a time, resist the urge to go on VN. As much as you may like to delude yourself, VN is not the equivalent of studying, as helpful as it is :P
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Also, if you do set a time, resist the urge to go on VN. As much as you may like to delude yourself, VN is not the equivalent of studying, as helpful as it is :P
someone should make that time spent on VN vs ENTER graph =p
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To aim for 5 hours a night for a whole year when youre coming of a year of next-to-no study is borderline delusional. You'd need to have a permanent monumental shift in attitude to pull it off. Which is something you cannot EXPECT.
You do know all these comments from you really have a negative effect on people, especially the topic starter. Your not meant to put down someone else's opinion like boysenberry. If he/she (sorry i dont know) wants to do 5 hrs a day then what does it have to do with you.
Yeah and boysenberrys comments (<5 hours = not trying) are likely to have a negative affect on a much larger proprtion of the year 12 population. :rolleyes:
I didnt tell her/him to not study for 5 hours. I said that coming from 40 hours of homework a whole year to planning on doing 40 hours homework a week, and then maintaining that for 40+ weeks, is something you cannot guarantee.
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maintaining 40+ hrs a week of "effective" study is hard, very hard and its not needed(for the entire year) if you have good study techniques and you make good use of time in class
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Studying can be likened to a job, so a full-time student should work for 40 hours a week. Time at school contributes towards this total; since we spend 5 hours a weekday in classes, we'll say that school makes up 25 hours a week. There are 15 hours remaining, if we distribute this amongst weekdays we get 3 hours of homework a weekday. It doesn't look that hard =/
But then again you guys are talked about studying outside of school, in that case it's 5.7 hours of study a day and obviously that's excessive.
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I do agree that maintaining a consistent 5 hours a night is, to say the least, a difficult task. There will most likely be lapses from time to time; that's to be expected. This being said, if you work at a high level of efficiency, even with those discrepancies to account for, the turnover should be significant enough.
My planning does not only cover academic guidelines I want to follow, but rather I try to include any aspect that may have an effect on my output. I have certain measures to manage physical and mental health, which take into consideration as many realistic obstacles as possible, including many of which people have raised in this thread. And of course, the most important aspect of any plan is flexibility. I am prepared to and even expect to deal with various changes that have not yet presented itself.
Everybody is different, with their own limits, tendencies, habits and so on, but what remains a common element for all in their bid for success is the fundamental logic of compensating for these variable shortcomings. Understanding that you have failings, that these failings can be overcome and thus working to address them is crucial to achieving any particular objective, however minor or grand. This, I believe, is key to unveiling the avenue towards your aim.
If you don't mind me asking, what measures are they? I'm looking to for ways to study more effectively, and to have more motivation in studying. And I also wouldn't mind being able to study for 5 hours a night. :P
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I assume theyd be things like exercising regularly, seeing friends, getting 8 hours of sleep, not studying when you have a bad headache, taking breaks, fapping, etc.
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*I meant in terms of getting 5 hours of work done a night. 'cause I don't think I can fit all those things in. :P
And at my current rate, if I do exercise, then I reward myself by doing whatever I want for a couple of hours. XD
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5 hours a night? Uhh wot.
So 6 hours at school, get home at say 4 and study till 9?
I'm sorry, but how is that possible. You'll get burned out and crash.
I wouldn't be able to concentrate for that long. I'm tired when i get home from school ha.
Your mind needs regular breaks you know....
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*I meant in terms of getting 5 hours of work done a night. 'cause I don't think I can fit all those things in. :P
And at my current rate, if I do exercise, then I reward myself by doing whatever I want for a couple of hours. XD
Wow, this thread has gotten pretty long. :)
Well, there are 24 hours in a day. 5 hours is merely but a small fraction. Take school for example, we waste about 6 hours a day on this. Also most of us sleep for about 8 hours. Meaning that in an ordinary weekday we waste a minimum of 14 hours a week. That leaves only ten hours for leisure and study time. It's manageable, though if you are working I can see how it could be difficult to manage.
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If you somehow don't manage this, you could also do some extra study on the weekends. :D
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^ i guess 5 hours of study doesn't seem like too much if you spend 2 hrs during the day in spares / lunch times working, then 3 hours somewhere between 4pm~10pm.
but i'd never be able to do this. :P
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If you somehow don't manage this, you could also do some extra study on the weekends. :D
Yeah, I rely on the weekend to catch up with work. Somehow I'm just really good at wasting time doing nothing. (:
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It's very easy to become complacent I agree with the limited time available. For example, if you catch public transport you'd waste quite a lot of minutes waiting for the tram/bus/train to come just doing nothing. I guess to lessen the impact you could carry little handwritten notes in your pocket with stuff to memorise while you are most vulnerable to being unproductive.
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"Take school for example, we waste about 6 hours a day on this"
I don't know what kind of school you're at, but i disagree.
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"Take school for example, we waste about 6 hours a day on this"
I don't know what kind of school you're at, but i disagree.
What I meant to say is that it's one of the factors that limit the amount of study you can do during the day.
EDIT: If it weren't for this you'd all agree with me. :o
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5 hours of study isn't much even after a school day, TT did like 14 hours of maths a day in the holidays i doubt he complained lol.
I think being at the age of 17 or 18 you should all be physically and mentally capable to undertake 5 hours or more study. 5 hours is about 3 exams, come exam time you'll be doing way more than that
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You do know all these comments from you really have a negative effect on people, especially the topic starter. Your not meant to put down someone else's opinion like boysenberry. If he/she (sorry i dont know) wants to do 5 hrs a day then what does it have to do with you.
I completely agree with your post.
btw, I'm male, hence boysenberry! :)
I also didn't perform that well in Biology this year (31) and it was my only 3/4, though I had a late start so to speak (I hadnt done 1/2 and there was a little bit of "chaos" which lead to me starting the course 2 weeks into term 1 of 3/4) but I am sure as hell going to try my best and keep going every single day because I have learnt from my mistakes. Then atleast I will be satisfied that I did the best I could and to back me up I know that my best was studying ATLEAST 4 hrs a day. I know how boysenberry feels and trust me its a shit feeling and the only way to change it is to study 4 hrs a day.
Woohoo! I'm not alone. :D
Gonna go full on this year! Looking at everybody's posts it seems as though we all have different ideas of a good amount for a day's study. Some have argued that it is not the time that you spend studying that's important but it's the overall effectiveness from doing this and the amount of information you absorb during this period that's more of a concerning matter. As a few have mentioned setting tasks for yourself to finish throughout the day may be a better measurement of effective goal establishment through studying than the amount of time spent from doing this. I can see how 5 hours could be a bit much, especially when you have to balance everything with all the homework that you're given also. Attempting to do this may render you tired and ineffective for school causing you to come late and teacher's may get angry. Though it's definitely achievable. And for some it's imperative for a consistent few hours of study to be met. Some people don't absorb as much info in the classroom. They don't contribute to class discussions and hence reduce the amount that can be learnt through the classroom interaction for whatever reason. There are students who find going to school a hassle, the fact that you have to have a minimum of 80% attendance requirement puts more pressure on these students who would rather stay home and study the few hours needed and relax. I think we should all keep in mind that we are all trying to help. The question is whether thanh.21 is one of these students or not? Even if he's not I think it's still worth to try to aim 5 hours, though a lot of people will probably end up doing 3-4 hours which is pretty good. Of course, it depends on your level of committment and how much you enjoy your subjects. If you hate your subjects, 5 hours of study will be almost be impossible.
Yeah and boysenberrys comments (<5 hours = not trying) are likely to have a negative affect on a much larger proprtion of the year 12 population. :rolleyes:
I didnt tell her/him to not study for 5 hours. I said that coming from 40 hours of homework a whole year to planning on doing 40 hours homework a week, and then maintaining that for 40+ weeks, is something you cannot guarantee.
During year 12 we see plenty of students who may have been seen rather as average in the past make significant changes to their academic lifestyle, especially when something important's at stake (tertiary preference, future happiness etc). This usually happens in year 11/12 during the VCE years. And yes, I agree, it does require a great shift in attitude for one do so, from being the most average to one of the top students. And of course, not everybody will be able to integrate themselves to this changed lifestyle requirement to do well. But this change is essential for success to be achieved. Ok...well I think I've said it all.
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I think being at the age of 17 or 18 you should all be physically and mentally capable to undertake 5 hours or more study. 5 hours is about 3 exams, come exam time you'll be doing way more than that
>.< I take like 3 hours to do a full practice exam. 1.5 hours (or however long the actual exam is) to do the exam, and an extra hour to analyze my mistakes in detail.
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Again I ask this question, I still don't quite understand what you meant.
There are loads of people who work harder than me. Maybe they're are all busy studying? Or maybe this site's just full of hypocrites. Sorry, somebody's gotta say it, there's no other explanation... :(
How so?
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Again I ask this question, I still don't quite understand what you meant.
There are loads of people who work harder than me. Maybe they're are all busy studying? Or maybe this site's just full of hypocrites. Sorry, somebody's gotta say it, there's no other explanation... :(
How so?
I'm guessing that he's saying that people actually do 4-5+ hours but are trying to pretend that they do little/no work and yet, still get very high scores. (Once again: "GUESSING")