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Archived Discussion => 2010 => Mid-year exams => Exam Discussion => Victoria => Psychology => Topic started by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 11:28:22 am

Title: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 11:28:22 am
I thought it was a fairly decent exam.

How did you all go?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 11:30:17 am
i thought it was pretty good
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 11:31:46 am
Yeah short answer was pretty straightforward, some MC questions were a bit dodgy, however overall wasn't too bad at all.

I take it the cut off this year is going to be higher than last years.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Boots on June 09, 2010, 11:32:20 am
The difference between sensation and perception blew me away!
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 11:36:27 am
Hmm, I think i picked the choice that said something along the lines perception involves congnition however sensation doesn't, I'm not sure of it's right or wrong...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 11:38:15 am
What stage of the GAS did most people write when she contracted the flu?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: cdjm92 on June 09, 2010, 11:38:45 am
Considering the circumstances I'm in at the moment (FAIL-mode) i did extremely well. Its the first time Ive finished in time limit, answered every question, readable handwriting, and mostly correct!


Heres my answers (i wrote them down):
1A
2A
3A (or C?)
4D
5B
6B (? think i guessed this one)
7A
8A
9D
10D
11C
12C
13C
14D
15D
16C
17A
18D (or B?)
19C
20B
21B
22B
23S
24A
25C
26D
27C
28B
29C
30A
31B
32B
33D
34A
35B
36B
37B
38C
39C
40B
41A
42B
43C
44A


If you want my answers to short answer questions you better ask quick while my memories still fresh

Hope my answers help  Please post your own!
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 11:38:53 am
resistance
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: cdjm92 on June 09, 2010, 11:41:15 am
What stage of the GAS did most people write when she contracted the flu?

Stage 2- was during the time she was working without the headaches etc (resistance)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 11:42:40 am
sweet :), yeah I wrote resistence as well cause it asked when she "initially" contracted the flu, which would've been during stage 2, i.e. resistence as the adrenal glands secrete cortisol to fight the stressor, however the secretion causes the immune system to be depleted, which then lowers the body's resistence to other infectious illnesses, i.e. the flu.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 11:43:17 am
resistance too :)

What does the sympathetic system do in third stage of GAS ?
I had trouble with that one.

And multiple choice, the question about the guy that can say the word 'accident' but unable to verbally express meaningful word what did people put?
Broca's or Wernickes?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 11:45:46 am
resistance too :)

What does the sympathetic system do in third stage of GAS ?
I had trouble with that one.

And multiple choice, the question about the guy that can say the word 'accident' but unable to verbally express meaningful word what did people put?
Broca's or Wernickes?

I just said like the sympathetic NS will have depleted all of its resources in maintaining resistance to the stressors for an extended period of time and consequently in the exhaustion stage her bodily resources will have been depleted and she would be almost unable to combat stressors further

and I did Wernicke's area, because he could pronounce the word but not give it meaning
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: cdjm92 on June 09, 2010, 11:47:58 am
SympatheticNS role in stage 3 GAS:
because resources depleted can no longer maintain arousal...results in less arousal-->lowered ability to resist stressor
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 11:48:09 am
I wrote something along the lines, the sympathetic nervous system would've been ineffective, as the body's resources have been depleted (due to secretion of cortisol) and it is unable to fight the stressor, as the body has collapsed mentally and pshyically.

Hmm I picked wernickes cause he was not able to express it in a meaningful way, as when a person a person has wernickes aphasia they are able to produce fluent and articulate speech yet what they say is largely meaningless.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 11:48:45 am
fuck, i changed 'resistance' to exhaustion
The more i think about it the more i want to kill myself (not literally dw)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 11:49:30 am
resistance too :)

What does the sympathetic system do in third stage of GAS ?
I had trouble with that one.

And multiple choice, the question about the guy that can say the word 'accident' but unable to verbally express meaningful word what did people put?
Broca's or Wernickes?

I just said like the sympathetic NS will have depleted all of its resources in maintaining resistance to the stressors for an extended period of time and consequently in the exhaustion stage her bodily resources will have been depleted and she would be almost unable to combat stressors further

and I did Wernicke's area, because he could pronounce the word but not give it meaning

OKay, I considered Broca's first but re-read the question and then I thought Wernicke's makes more sense.
And that's a fail for me with the symphathetic .. I said it continued to release cortisol lol Person must be superhuman +_+
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: cdjm92 on June 09, 2010, 11:51:00 am
Brocas aphasia- not able to product/pronounce, able to comprehend
Wernicke's - able to product/pronounce, not able to comprehend
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 11:54:44 am
Hmm I found most difficult question was the why CT and PET scans were both used. Started guessing.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: cdjm92 on June 09, 2010, 11:58:30 am
Hmm I found most difficult question was the why CT and PET scans were both used. Started guessing.
PET - shows functionality, so can see if any function damage
CT - shows strucure, so can see actual tumor or damaged areas
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 11:59:51 am
how many questions can you get wrong on average in order to get like an A?
fuck man, i'm depresso now lol
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 12:00:12 pm
I think it's because the CT scan which provides structural information of the brain, would've detected if the tumour had been successfully removed or not, and the PET scan which provides functional information of the brain would've detected the functioning of the brain after the removal of the tumour. I wasn't entirely sure..
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 12:02:29 pm
Well the cut off last year for unit 3 for an A+ was 79/90

and for an A was 74/90
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 12:03:32 pm
i did exhaustion for that stage because when she got ill she had already resisted the disease which is how she got over the headaches

and her resources were depleted/immune system weakened. thus she got ill in exhaustion.

some multis really threw me, the short answer was ok
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 12:05:33 pm
Hmm, but I thought she had recovered and then went back to work, so hence she "initially" contracted the flu in resistence.. and then during exhaustion she collapsed mentally and pshyically later on.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Boots on June 09, 2010, 12:07:32 pm
how many questions can you get wrong on average in order to get like an A?
fuck man, i'm depresso now lol
littlebec u should've got the CT and PET question correct cos' we discussed it on the forum a few days ago!
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 12:08:35 pm
I did boots dw i'm not worried about that question
i'm worried about others ;\
and i'm pissed off that the things i studied for weren't in there. There was basically no brain questions IMO
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: cdjm92 on June 09, 2010, 12:11:13 pm
immune system is lowered in resistance too, initially contracted it during resistance (another stressor), it tipped her over the edge into exhaustion
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 12:11:17 pm
what was the answer for the mc question on perception?
i wasn't sure if it was B or C
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 12:12:16 pm
Hmm, but I thought she had recovered and then went back to work, so hence she "initially" contracted the flu in resistence.. and then during exhaustion she collapsed mentally and pshyically later on.

Exactly. I put resistance stage.
If it was exhaustion she wouldn't have the energy to go back to work.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: cdjm92 on June 09, 2010, 12:15:12 pm
My net connections crap, so i'll leave now...
Please post any answers you have (if you wrote them down) and compare them with mine, ill come back tonight or tomoz :)
cya
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 12:16:14 pm
And if anyone has a copy of the exam, could you please please upload upppp :)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 12:18:43 pm
was visual information processes in just the right occipital lobe or the left and right occipital lobes?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 12:22:28 pm
left and right
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 12:22:50 pm
yay. :)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 12:23:24 pm
I can't remember the exact question, cant remember if it asked if the visual information was presented inm the right or left visual field, it was one of em: so if it asked right vidual field then wouldve been processed in the left occipital lobe, however if it asked left visual field then wouldve been presented in the right occipital lobe. Im pretty certain it asked a specifially about one of the viual fields, not eye, hence it wouldn't have been both the left and right occipital lobes.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 12:25:33 pm
but under the assumption that the person has a corpus callossum, wouldn't the lobes communicate with one another?
it would primarily have been focused in the one lobe, but the exclusivity of the answer "right occipital lobe only" threw me off
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 12:26:41 pm
word from mate who got over 45 in psych last year: they might accept both resistance and exhaustion since technically, there is logic which can support both
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 12:27:27 pm
Hmm truee. Shittt I probably got that one wrong then :(
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 12:28:31 pm
in exhaustion it would have been clear that she had a psychosomatic illness or something
the question said "when she contracted the flu" - which was before the doctor said she was physically depleted - and was IMO pretty clearly not exhaustion but late resistance
flu is linked with resistance
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 12:28:48 pm
It's both lobes guys. The person didn't have a split brain
Using the word 'only' is a cement statement and you have to be really wary of those things.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 12:29:33 pm
It's both lobes guys. The person didn't have a split brain
Using the word 'only' is a cement statement and you have to be really wary of those things.

agreed. :)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 12:37:33 pm
What stage of the GAS did most people write when she contracted the flu?
i got exhaustion and so did others who i know who are pretty good at psych but from what i am reading on here it seems like it is wrong. I even asked a student teacher the questiona after the exam and she said she though it was exhaustion. :/
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 12:38:14 pm
It's both lobes guys. The person didn't have a split brain
Using the word 'only' is a cement statement and you have to be really wary of those things.

agreed. :)
+1
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 12:38:41 pm
Hawks- maybe they will have exhaustion and resistance as correct answers
there's a lot of debate.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 12:38:59 pm
YAY I GOT 1 QUESTION RIGHT WOO
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 12:40:48 pm
Maybe they'd accept both Resistance and Exhaustion. There's been the same case that happened in a past vcaa exam, I dont quite remember which.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on June 09, 2010, 12:41:11 pm
Anyone got the exam? I'm curious to see how they've changed the study design - can't believe there's no sleep section anymore? Or is there? :P
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 12:43:23 pm
YAY I GOT 1 QUESTION RIGHT WOO
the first multiple choice, was that c(cerebral cortex) or a(frontal lobe)? Everyone who I asked got c including me but someone posted on the first page that it was a. I seem to remenber reading somewhere that 70% of neurons in the the cns are in the cerebral cortex.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 12:43:55 pm
i swear it was c hawks.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 12:44:05 pm
Anyone got the exam? I'm curious to see how they've changed the study design - can't believe there's no sleep section anymore? Or is there? :P

There were a few questions on sleep.
Sleep deprived short answer
k complex and sleep spindles were on the MC (right? where we had to determine which stage it occurs in)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 12:44:17 pm
I hope they accept either, as long as a reasonable logical explanation was accompanied with either resistence/exhaustion. Fingerss Crosseddddd.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 12:44:40 pm
Maybe they'd accept both Resistance and Exhaustion. There's been the same case that happened in a past vcaa exam, I dont quite remember which.
there was 1 question last year in mc where all answers were right. lol if someone left out that question
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 12:44:52 pm
I love maths meth- the study design hasn't changed.
IMO opinion though, the exam was harder than all the other years
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 12:45:51 pm
No, this year was the last year they were gonna use the study design (2005 - 2010), there is gonna be a new one from next year onwards.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: coolhat on June 09, 2010, 12:47:31 pm
i got 44 d!
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 12:48:37 pm
i swear it was c hawks.
i hope so. also what did you guys get for q12 which i think went like this
the sympathetic ns and parasympathetic ns are
a: was wrong
b: cannot work simultaneously
c: have opposite functions but work together
d: was wrong
i got c but was tossing up between B and C. I only went C because appartly first guess is more likely to be right
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 12:49:09 pm
it's C im pretty sure
both of them can work at the same time
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 12:49:41 pm
I got C
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 12:50:09 pm
yay! I got C as welll :)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on June 09, 2010, 12:50:45 pm
Oh right, there was some rumour that they were changing it.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 12:51:17 pm
i swear it was c hawks.
i hope so. also what did you guys get for q12 which i think went like this
the sympathetic ns and parasympathetic ns are
a: was wrong
b: cannot work simultaneously
c: have opposite functions but work together
d: was wrong
i got c but was tossing up between B and C. I only went C because appartly first guess is more likely to be right

yes i also found that question hard! i think i did C, but neither of them really convinced me
(thought maybe i did B i forgot)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 12:51:43 pm
what threw me was that i wasnt sure if it meant work together at the same time or work together to help the body function
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 12:53:08 pm
so what did everyone get for the first mc?
A or C?
please say c?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 12:53:13 pm
mmm it was a very dodgy question!
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 12:53:43 pm
was c, the cerbral cortex? if so i got that :)

I hope it's right..
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 12:53:51 pm
yeah i did C for the first mc

it couldnt be frontal lobe, the frontal lobe doesnt have 3/4 of brain neurons!
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 12:54:03 pm
Oh right, there was some rumour that they were changing it.

What? The study design?
New study design commences next year.
My school the year 11 are using different psych book now.. can't sell my 3/4 book damit
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 12:55:59 pm
was c, the cerbral cortex? if so i got that :)

I hope it's right..
sweet
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 12:58:25 pm
Yeah ive heard also as off next year in the psych exams, the three area of studies arent gonna be separated like in this years and previous years.
Its gonna be all mixed, like bio etc..
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 01:00:28 pm
Yeah ive heard also as off next year in the psych exams, the three area of studies arent gonna be separated like in this years and previous years.
Its gonna be all mixed, like bio etc..


Don't think it will make much difference .. i mean the questions are so straight forward
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Glockmeister on June 09, 2010, 01:01:19 pm
Oh right, there was some rumour that they were changing it.

There is a change of study design, but they're transitioning it like how they did it for chemistry a few years ago. So this years yr 11 are doing the new study design.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 01:01:55 pm
mm yeah that's very true lol..
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 01:03:42 pm
I can't remember the exact question, cant remember if it asked if the visual information was presented inm the right or left visual field, it was one of em: so if it asked right vidual field then wouldve been processed in the left occipital lobe, however if it asked left visual field then wouldve been presented in the right occipital lobe. Im pretty certain it asked a specifially about one of the viual fields, not eye, hence it wouldn't have been both the left and right occipital lobes.
correct that is what i got. the question was number 3 and the answer i got was c























Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 01:06:31 pm
Oh coool, I'm hoping its right, well thats what I thought initially, i.e. it would be processed in one of the occipital lobes only as it was presented in one visual field, not the eye. I went to the psych revision lecture and the chief assessor was there, and he specifically told us "don't look for deep underlying meaning in MC".




Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 01:13:44 pm
Oh coool, I'm hoping its right, well thats what I thought initially, i.e. it would be processed in one of the occipital lobes only as it was presented in one visual field, not the eye. I went to the psych revision lecture and the chief assessor was there, and he specifically told us "don't look for deep underlying meaning in MC".
yer i remember earning about the visual fields etc and thinking " i bet heaps of people stuff it up on the exam" it is confusing





Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: psych93 on June 09, 2010, 01:14:08 pm
Hmm I said exhaustion. She got the flu and then she had to take a week off work so I thought theat that was a key indicator .. ahh I hope they allow both !
also what did people say for the ames room question ? The one about the father shrinking and the peephole?
Hmm I also said A (frontal lobe) for the first multiple choice question, because how are only 75% of the brains neurons in the cerebral cortex? where is the other 25%? The corpus callosum is made of nerve fibres right?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 01:18:42 pm
Hmm, with the Ames room: It is a distorted trapezium shaped room (which appears to be "normal", i.e. rectangular - when viewed monocularly). The left hand corner (where father was pushed by witch) was double the distance than the right hand corner (witch with children) from the viewer/camera, the retinal image of him moving from the right to left halves in size, as it viewed through a single peep hole which only allows monocular depth cues. Hence, shape constancy is maintained at cost of size constancy. Thus, the father appears to "shrink".
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 01:18:53 pm
the other 25% is below the cerebral cortex... the cerebral cortex is only a few millimetres thick (i should know how many haha :()

how could 75% of the neurons be in the frontal lobe? does that mean 25% is shared between occipital, temporal and parietal?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 01:19:40 pm
For the gestals principle the first one can the answer be Figure-ground as well?
Because I had proximity in my mind but I could explain the other better.
And the second one I put closure
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 01:20:23 pm
For the gestals principle the first one can the answer be Figure-ground as well?
Because I had proximity in my mind but I could explain the other better.
And the second one I put closure

yeah figure ground was applied in both, figure ground is applied in like everything
so yeah it would have been acceptable
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 01:21:34 pm
Hmm I said exhaustion. She got the flu and then she had to take a week off work so I thought theat that was a key indicator .. ahh I hope they allow both !
also what did people say for the ames room question ? The one about the father shrinking and the peephole?
Hmm I also said A (frontal lobe) for the first multiple choice question, because how are only 75% of the brains neurons in the cerebral cortex? where is the other 25%? The corpus callosum is made of nerve fibres right?

wasn't it 70% of neurons in the cns? i cant remember the question but i remember initally thinking frontal lobe then i saw the functioning but when seeing the 70% thinking the cerebral cortex.
the ames room question i though was strange and gave too much detail about the dad and the witch when it was not needed. i wrote somthing about him getting smalller/larger(cant remember which) because he was pushed and then i described the features of the ames room
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 01:21:57 pm
For the gestals principle the first one can the answer be Figure-ground as well?
Because I had proximity in my mind but I could explain the other better.
And the second one I put closure

yeah figure ground was applied in both, figure ground is applied in like everything
so yeah it would have been acceptable

Oh thank god B)
Explaining the circle was tricky because the little circles made up a picture of a circle, bigger circle. I hope I clarified myself in the answer...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 01:23:16 pm
I did promixity for the first one, and closure for the second :)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 01:23:38 pm
what the fuck was with the goggles question :\
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 01:23:42 pm
I did promixity for the first one, and closure for the second :)

Still correct ^_^
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: psych93 on June 09, 2010, 01:24:57 pm
Haha good point about 25% being shared among the occiptial, parietal and temporal. I changed that question in the last minute ... how annoying !!
Do you think you would have to say all those things about the Ames Room to get the full marks?
Because I only said about the distance of the left corner being twice as far away and therefore when we use monocular vision we cant perceive the depth which causes the illusion of him shrinking
I forgot to say anything about the trapeziodal shaped room or shape/size constancy
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 01:25:01 pm
For the gestals principle the first one can the answer be Figure-ground as well?
Because I had proximity in my mind but I could explain the other better.
And the second one I put closure
i used proximity and closure

yeah figure ground was applied in both, figure ground is applied in like everything
so yeah it would have been acceptable
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 01:25:15 pm
Lol lol I know, the goggles question was worded so weirdly! lol just had to relate it back to absolute threshold when it asked for the example.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 01:26:59 pm
Hmm not sure, depends how many marks the ames room question was worth. I really wish someone could upload the exam!
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 01:27:14 pm
I didnt know the the hell the goggle questions wanted from me O_o
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 01:27:24 pm
what the fuck was with the goggles question :\
that was confusing. from memory i wrote somthing about moving the onject further away to test what the absolute threshold was. cant really remember though
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 01:27:32 pm
Hmm not sure, depends how many marks the ames room question was worth. I really wish someone could upload the exam!
I remember, it was 4 marks.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 01:30:19 pm
same hong
so bad
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 01:31:49 pm
Maybe, but I do know that it is definitely required to relate it back to the scenario, i.e. the father/witch/children etc. So it wouldn't be sufficient to say that one corner was double the distance of the other, you would have to relate it back to the given situation.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 01:32:10 pm
i know this was like the simplest question on the whole exam... but what psychological symptoms were of sleep deprivation?

i had a complete mental blank, but did irritability and varied emotional state but i'm not sure if that's a thing?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: psych93 on June 09, 2010, 01:33:18 pm
Haha yes that was weird !
I said something like he would inform he researcher of the maximum distance where he could detect the movement, and it would be procedure would be repeated and the researcher would identify the maximum distance at which he could detect the movement 50% of the time.
I had no idea !
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 01:33:28 pm
i know this was like the simplest question on the whole exam... but what psychological symptoms were of sleep deprivation?

i had a complete mental blank, but did irritability and varied emotional state but i'm not sure if that's a thing?

I think I put lack of emotions and lack of concentration
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 01:34:13 pm
i know this was like the simplest question on the whole exam... but what psychological symptoms were of sleep deprivation?

i had a complete mental blank, but did irritability and varied emotional state but i'm not sure if that's a thing?



I'm not sure, I did irratability and impaired memory.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 01:34:26 pm
what the fuck was with the goggles question :\
that was confusing. from memory i wrote somthing about moving the onject further away to test what the absolute threshold was. cant really remember though

I wrote that the researcher should walk towards the soldier and have the soldier indicate when he can first detect movement. Repeat 10 times and and record the distance at which movement can be detected. The absolute threshold is the minimum (OMG should have said maximum arghhhh) distance at which movement is detected 50% of the time. :S

Also the Ames room, the thing about the peephole. I said it eliminates binocular vision but they were using a camera so it would be monocular vision anyway. I thought maybe it could have been something to do with the position of the peephole meaning the room appears rectangular.

Also, I was getting a lot of D's at one point in MC...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 01:36:13 pm
i know this was like the simplest question on the whole exam... but what psychological symptoms were of sleep deprivation?

i had a complete mental blank, but did irritability and varied emotional state but i'm not sure if that's a thing?
lack of cencentration
confusion
they were the ones i did. wasnt confident though
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 01:36:26 pm
what the fuck was with the goggles question :\
that was confusing. from memory i wrote somthing about moving the onject further away to test what the absolute threshold was. cant really remember though

I wrote that the researcher should walk towards the soldier and have the soldier indicate when he can first detect movement. Repeat 10 times and and record the distance at which movement can be detected. The absolute threshold is the minimum distance at which distance is detected 50% of the time. :S

Also the Ames room, the thing about the peephole. I said it eliminates binocular vision but they were using a camera so it would be monocular vision anyway.
I thought maybe it could have been something to do with the position of the peephole meaning the room appears rectangular.

Also, I was getting a lot of D's at one point in MC...

Eliminating binocular cues = monocular cues
And yeah thats what I put, that it intensified the illusion (as written in past vcaa exam)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 01:37:28 pm
what the fuck was with the goggles question :\
that was confusing. from memory i wrote somthing about moving the onject further away to test what the absolute threshold was. cant really remember though

I wrote that the researcher should walk towards the soldier and have the soldier indicate when he can first detect movement. Repeat 10 times and and record the distance at which movement can be detected. The absolute threshold is the minimum distance at which distance is detected 50% of the time. :S

Also the Ames room, the thing about the peephole. I said it eliminates binocular vision but they were using a camera so it would be monocular vision anyway.
I thought maybe it could have been something to do with the position of the peephole meaning the room appears rectangular.

Also, I was getting a lot of D's at one point in MC...

Eliminating binocular cues = monocular cues
And yeah thats what I put, that it intensified the illusion (as written in past vcaa exam)


Yup :) that's what I wrote.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 01:38:46 pm
what the fuck was with the goggles question :\
that was confusing. from memory i wrote somthing about moving the onject further away to test what the absolute threshold was. cant really remember though

I wrote that the researcher should walk towards the soldier and have the soldier indicate when he can first detect movement. Repeat 10 times and and record the distance at which movement can be detected. The absolute threshold is the minimum distance at which distance is detected 50% of the time. :S

Also the Ames room, the thing about the peephole. I said it eliminates binocular vision but they were using a camera so it would be monocular vision anyway.
I thought maybe it could have been something to do with the position of the peephole meaning the room appears rectangular.

Also, I was getting a lot of D's at one point in MC...

Eliminating binocular cues = monocular cues
And yeah thats what I put, that it intensified the illusion (as written in past vcaa exam)

Yeah but it said how does the peephole help with it or whatever. Considering they were using a video camera to film, no matter what they were filming it would be monocular. So I didn't know specifically how the peephole would help. But ohwell i put the thing about binocular vision being eliminated...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 01:39:35 pm
i didnt get a mc question as B until 20 or so
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 01:40:37 pm
what the fuck was with the goggles question :\
that was confusing. from memory i wrote somthing about moving the onject further away to test what the absolute threshold was. cant really remember though

I wrote that the researcher should walk towards the soldier and have the soldier indicate when he can first detect movement. Repeat 10 times and and record the distance at which movement can be detected. The absolute threshold is the minimum distance at which distance is detected 50% of the time. :S

Also the Ames room, the thing about the peephole. I said it eliminates binocular vision but they were using a camera so it would be monocular vision anyway.
I thought maybe it could have been something to do with the position of the peephole meaning the room appears rectangular.

Also, I was getting a lot of D's at one point in MC...

Eliminating binocular cues = monocular cues
And yeah thats what I put, that it intensified the illusion (as written in past vcaa exam)

Yeah but it said how does the peephole help with it or whatever. Considering they were using a video camera to film, no matter what they were filming it would be monocular. So I didn't know specifically how the peephole would help. But ohwell i put the thing about binocular vision being eliminated...

What I meant was that by eliminating binocular vision it means that the person can only use monocular vision.
It's basically the same thing :)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: coolhat on June 09, 2010, 01:47:39 pm
for the ames room-second part-viewing through a peephole in the centre- i put so that the visual angle is the same for both corners! if the visual angle is the same we perceive the room as being rectangular-which is very impt!
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 01:48:00 pm
there was this question, what X ( i forgot his/her name) would have most difficulty in?

I wrote D - dressing or something? Is that right? :/
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 01:48:45 pm
there was this question, what X ( i forgot his/her name) would have most difficulty in?

I wrote D - dressing or something? Is that right? :/

i also did that - it was the only one that required both sides of the brain to work together i think
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 01:48:53 pm
Yeah I got D for that.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: coolhat on June 09, 2010, 01:49:02 pm
apparently its memory-a-according to my teacher! i put d aswell!!!
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 01:49:56 pm
I put A, affects memory.
The others didn't seem right to me so I eliminated them all and chose A
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 01:50:12 pm
apparently its memory-a-according to my teacher! i put d aswell!!!
huh????????
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 01:50:27 pm
apparently its memory-a-according to my teacher! i put d aswell!!!

Ummm I swear I've read something like a split-brain patient may have trouble coordinating body movements somewhere.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 01:51:23 pm
 right answer was definitely dressing i believe. a hard question but from memory the other answers weren't that applicable. no excellent distractors for that particular question i didn't think
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: coolhat on June 09, 2010, 01:51:44 pm
yeh its a weird qs-maybe they will mark both a and d as correct....
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 01:53:47 pm
apparently its memory-a-according to my teacher! i put d aswell!!!
is your teacher a good credible one  or just some crackpot that doesnt know what he/she is talking about?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 01:54:10 pm
apparently its memory-a-according to my teacher! i put d aswell!!!
is your teacher a good credible one  or just some crackpot that doesnt know what he/she is talking about?

I was wondering the same thing XD
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 02:03:19 pm
i guess when i answered the question i didnt think it through and it as not as obvious as i first thought but the answer has to be d. for example while getting dressed you are analysing info which is common in the left hemisphere. as info can not cross between hemispheres i am not sure how this info would be able to be carried out by the left hand side
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 02:10:30 pm
i guess when i answered the question i didnt think it through and it as not as obvious as i first thought but the answer has to be d. for example while getting dressed you are analysing info which is common in the left hemisphere. as info can not cross between hemispheres i am not sure how this info would be able to be carried out by the left hand side


Isn't it just like pointing to an identified object by pointing their fingers to it with patients under split-brain surgery?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 02:15:14 pm


Isn't it just like pointing to an identified object by pointing their fingers to it with patients under split-brain surgery?
i spose so but wouldn't there have to be some coordination in the middle? i am really not sure. it seemed like a straight forward question but now i reckon it is about 50/50 for d ora
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 02:17:52 pm
Is the question really actually on the study design?? It says 'research on intact brains' not split-brain. Also the question about walking into a cinema... was that it takes time for the rods and cones to increase sensitivity??? Dark adaption isn't technically on the study design either....

EDIT:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split-brain

This says that coordination is the same, but memory can be affected.... arghhhhh
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: zzzzzz on June 09, 2010, 02:25:45 pm
dammnnnnn
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 02:28:42 pm
Yay ^_^ :O
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 02:29:30 pm
Honestly how were we meant to know that???? I was just looking in my textbook and there's nothing about it. Wikipedia says we still have coordination because of other connections between the cerebral hemispheres... and we haven't studied memory yet so I don't actually know how it works yet... *sigh*
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 02:30:57 pm
Honestly how were we meant to know that???? I was just looking in my textbook and there's nothing about it. Wikipedia says we still have coordination because of other connections between the cerebral hemispheres... and we haven't studied memory yet so I don't actually know how it works yet... *sigh*

You can get the answer from elimination. That's the only way to how I got the answer..
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 02:33:55 pm
I guess but we weren't really taught about the interactions between the cerebral hemispheres in a split-brain patient...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 02:34:17 pm
2006 VCAA:

Zoe has developed a bad cough and visits her doctor. In taking Zoe's history the doctor has discovered Zoe has just completed several highly important university exams. Among other things, Zoe's doctor recommends she undertake some form of relationation to reduce her stress levels

Question B) What stage of GAS is Zoe most likely to be experiencing?

Answers accepted: Resistance or Exhaustion

Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 02:36:07 pm
2006 VCAA:

Zoe has developed a bad cough and visits her doctor. In taking Zoe's history the doctor has discovered Zoe has just completed several highly important university exams. Among other things, Zoe's doctor recommends she undertake some form of relationation to reduce her stress levels

Question B) What stage of GAS is Zoe most likely to be experiencing?

Answers accepted: Resistance or Exhaustion



That's the question I was referring to :D

I guess but we weren't really taught about the interactions between the cerebral hemispheres in a split-brain patient...
My teacher went through all the tests on split-brain patients and how the hemispheres interact during the tests. Thank goodness ..
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Boots on June 09, 2010, 02:38:12 pm
yeah the split brain question was very hard and I did spend around 10 mins on it
however I eliminated the obviously wrong answers
i knew coordinating movement was not affected from this thread I made a while back
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,25833.0.html
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 02:38:53 pm
:(
the exam was shit
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: extcar on June 09, 2010, 02:39:35 pm
^ yeah bad

For the first short answer questions on Gestalt principles? did it say we had to relate it back to the picture, cos i forgot to, but im pretty sure it said to identify it and an explanation ?????
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 02:40:23 pm
:(
the exam was shit

Gotta admit wayyy better than Bio :D
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 02:41:08 pm
it actually didnt say relate back to the picture, i picked up  on that
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: matt123 on June 09, 2010, 02:43:18 pm
it asked how the gestalt principle would make a 3D image
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 02:44:03 pm
:(
the exam was shit
same i am pretty p1ssed about the corpus callosum question. it wasnt even on the study design.
i suppose there is some chance that the assesors realize that and remove the question some incy wincy chance atleast
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 02:44:17 pm
it actually didnt say relate back to the picture, i picked up  on that

yes it did. it definitely did!!! I remember cause thats the reason I changed by answer from proximity to figure-ground, cause I found figure-ground to be easier to relate it to that picture
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 02:45:04 pm
it asked how the gestalt principle would make a 3D image
no that was the pictorial depth cues question on interposition and linear perspective
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 02:45:31 pm
what does eveyone think they got out of 90? before coming on here I would have said 80's but know i reckon i got heaps less
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: matt123 on June 09, 2010, 02:46:35 pm
they might also do the coordination one
because the corpus collosum is used to transfer messages across the body

hence . if your using both parts of the body
both the right/left hemispheres are in some way being used

Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: matt123 on June 09, 2010, 02:47:09 pm
yeah sorry that whats i thought you were asking hah
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: matt123 on June 09, 2010, 02:47:45 pm
maybe 75-85 / 90
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 02:48:50 pm
they might also do the coordination one
because the corpus collosum is used to transfer messages across the body

hence . if your using both parts of the body
both the right/left hemispheres are in some way being used


lets hope so.
there is absolutely no information what-so-ever in any psychology textbook/set of notes/study guide/practise exam/assessors report that links a severed corpus callosum to poor memory functioning
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: extcar on June 09, 2010, 02:49:11 pm
ah fkk, i always misread questions
how about the MC question on stressor. was it to a)perceive threat or was it d)activating the GAS i rkn i got like 70 LOL did pretty shitt, thought i did alright though but reading all the discussion ...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: matt123 on June 09, 2010, 02:49:53 pm
i said it was any threat but then again i probz got it wrong

i mean
u can have a stressor . and the GAS dosnt have to happen
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 02:54:05 pm
I thought for gestalt principles it did say 'in the image', i swear i highlighted that...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 02:54:54 pm
i wrote a stressor as anyhing someone percieves as a threat
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 02:56:48 pm
^^ same
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 03:02:04 pm
I wrote stress is perceived as a threat as well :)

What did you guys write for the advantages or disadvantages (cant remember) of the repeated measures design?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 03:03:14 pm
I wrote stress is perceived as a threat as well :)

What did you guys write for the advantages or disadvantages (cant remember) of the repeated measures design?
wasnt it the matched participants?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 03:03:41 pm
I wrote stress is perceived as a threat as well :)

What did you guys write for the advantages or disadvantages (cant remember) of the repeated measures design?

time consuming

but are you sure it's something perceived as a threat?  like my palms were sweaty in the exam but not because i perceived the exam as a threat..
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 03:04:22 pm
I think I wrote pairing participants with similar characteristics is time consuming.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: matt123 on June 09, 2010, 03:04:53 pm
i said order effect
in matched participants design you need to do a pretest to determine the pairs
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 03:05:10 pm
I wrote stress is perceived as a threat as well :)

What did you guys write for the advantages or disadvantages (cant remember) of the repeated measures design?

time consuming

but are you sure it's something perceived as a threat?  like my palms were sweaty in the exam but not because i perceived the exam as a threat..

I think you did perceive the exam as a psychological threat.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 03:06:20 pm
for the repeated measures design? it was a multiple choice question I think like late 30's - do you know what im talking about?

Hmm, im not sure i thought the threat answer was the best answer while i was in the exam.

Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 03:06:27 pm
I wrote stress is perceived as a threat as well :)

What did you guys write for the advantages or disadvantages (cant remember) of the repeated measures design?

time consuming

but are you sure it's something perceived as a threat?  like my palms were sweaty in the exam but not because i perceived the exam as a threat..

I think you did perceive the exam as a psychological threat.


nahhh as an opportunity! that i should try hard in
but nothing "threatening" about it

i just didn't like the word threat

if i have to work 12 hours a day, i don't feel threatened by it, its just a stressor that activates my GAS...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 03:08:36 pm
for the repeated measures design? it was a multiple choice question I think like late 30's - do you know what im talking about?

Hmm, im not sure i thought the threat answer was the best answer while i was in the exam.


the short answer question was on matched participants wasnt it?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 03:09:05 pm
Yeah I see what you're saying but I think I eliminated all the others... can't really remember.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 03:09:58 pm
Yeah I see what you're saying but I think I eliminated all the others... can't really remember.

as usual, VCAA manages to come up with questions that have no real answer.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 03:10:07 pm
yeah the short answer was, but the there was a question on umm repeated measures design i think, and it asked for the disadvantages or something? was on the bottom of the second last page of MC...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: matt123 on June 09, 2010, 03:10:10 pm
yeah it was
personally ... i think the psych exam cutoff will be lowered but barely because the examiners will mark it well. look for easy marks

may drop from 88% to ... 85% ? idk
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: psych93 on June 09, 2010, 03:15:53 pm
How about the PET and CT question?
I said that Ct could be used to indicate whether the tumour had gone due to surgery or whether it reappeared, and then i said PET could be used to indicate areas of high and low neuronal activity when performing cognitive tasks like speaking to see whether their had been damage to their speech
Don't think thats right at all though.

And yeah about the 3D questions....
First I described interpostion (obscuring objects blah blah) and then I said that interposition can be used to show distance between objects and therefore creates the impression of a 3d environment?
Wow loks as though this exam has been a major fail .
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 03:18:48 pm
it was fail.
So many weird questions i've never seen before on any vcaa exams
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 03:21:58 pm
How about the PET and CT question?
I said that Ct could be used to indicate whether the tumour had gone due to surgery or whether it reappeared, and then i said PET could be used to indicate areas of high and low neuronal activity when performing cognitive tasks like speaking to see whether their had been damage to their speech
Don't think thats right at all though.

And yeah about the 3D questions....
First I described interpostion (obscuring objects blah blah) and then I said that interposition can be used to show distance between objects and therefore creates the impression of a 3d environment?
Wow loks as though this exam has been a major fail .

I didn't relate it to the tumour thing at all. Thought about it - but didn't do it :(. Just said CT can show the detailed structure of the brain while PET can show functioning images that CT cannot.

I don't remember anything about 3D... but I do remember something about how it's used in art. So I said stuff like "objects drawn..." blah blah - ohhhh this sucks :(
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 03:24:29 pm
How about the PET and CT question?
I said that Ct could be used to indicate whether the tumour had gone due to surgery or whether it reappeared, and then i said PET could be used to indicate areas of high and low neuronal activity when performing cognitive tasks like speaking to see whether their had been damage to their speech
Don't think thats right at all though.

And yeah about the 3D questions....
First I described interpostion (obscuring objects blah blah) and then I said that interposition can be used to show distance between objects and therefore creates the impression of a 3d environment?
Wow loks as though this exam has been a major fail .

I didn't relate it to the tumour thing at all. Thought about it - but didn't do it :(. Just said CT can show the detailed structure of the brain while PET can show functioning images that CT cannot.

I don't remember anything about 3D... but I do remember something about how it's used in art. So I said stuff like "objects drawn..." blah blah - ohhhh this sucks :(
yeh i wrote smothing like ct is better for structure and pet is better or function
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 03:24:42 pm
Hmm I found most difficult question was the why CT and PET scans were both used. Started guessing.
PET - shows functionality, so can see if any function damage
CT - shows strucure, so can see actual tumor or damaged areas
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: matt123 on June 09, 2010, 03:27:07 pm
the answer was basicly based on the fact that pet scans dont provide DETAILED images .. only provide basic activity

so the tumor would be detected by the ct scan in a cross sectional image .. then the PET would clarify this and show the areas which are most active and hence aid in the hypothesis of how to remove it
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 03:27:28 pm
me 2 hawks.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 03:29:49 pm
dont thnik i am going to discuss anymore. everytime i think about a question, i shit myself and think "did I include this" or "i hope I didnt write that". It just worries me. For example in the ct, pet question i am now thinking i hope i didnt write down ct as 3d coz i think i might have for some reason. oh dear god, this is doing my head in
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 03:30:29 pm
ahhh same hawks
it's making me more scared
*leaves forum*
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 03:30:33 pm
For the REM eye movement thing did people put EOG ?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: coolhat on June 09, 2010, 03:33:09 pm
'hawks08 ' his class got 5 50's last year for psy-pretty awesome teacher
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 03:35:48 pm
'hawks08 ' his class got 5 50's last year for psy-pretty awesome teacher
yeh now i realize i was wrong. pretty good teacher. what school?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 03:37:45 pm
For the REM eye movement thing did people put EOG ?

Yep I did, for b) i said increased electrical activity (or high amount) can't remember...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: psych93 on June 09, 2010, 03:42:13 pm
Oh i said EEG
then i said irregular low amp high freq beta waves
is that right?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 03:43:25 pm
^^ Yep that's fine.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 03:44:34 pm
I wrote EMG, saying little electrical activity of muscles during REM sleep due to 'virtual muscle paralysis'...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 03:44:50 pm
^^ Yep that's fine.
r u sure because that is not directly measuring eye activity?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 03:46:46 pm
Ahh the more I analyse every question the more doubtful I get...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 03:47:01 pm
I'm sure it said eye activity .. if it did then only EOG isn't that right?
Ahhh we need a copy of the exam.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 03:48:36 pm
^^ Yep that's fine.
r u sure because that is not directly measuring eye activity?

Ohh I actually can't remember now. I thought it said something like name a device that can be used to distinguish between REM and NREM sleep. I did EOG, but I thought it would be possible to do the others as well... can't remember lol.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 03:48:42 pm
i don't think it said eye activity (but i did EOG anyway so im happy either way!)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: extcar on June 09, 2010, 03:57:11 pm
i hope it didnt say eye activity! cos i picked EEG
but far out i forgot to describe how it is in REM sleep i only said it detects amplifies and records electirical activity of the brain, i totally forgot to talk about the REm and NREM fudge !! reckon ill still get marks ?? :D:D
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: matt123 on June 09, 2010, 03:58:27 pm
it said .. in relation to rem sleep
how would it be distinguished . all u needed to say for EOG is .. high electrical activity of muscles controlling the eyes
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: extcar on June 09, 2010, 04:00:53 pm
i guess not then LOL
this thread makes me depressed !!
I HATE YOU VCAA
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 04:01:12 pm
Did the questions say distinguish REM sleep from NREM sleep? because all i put was 'increased electrical activity' and didn't really describe it further..
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: minilunchbox on June 09, 2010, 04:06:04 pm
Haven't read the thread yet, not sure if I should demotivate myself so soon.

However,

wtf is with the MC question distinguishing between sensation and perception.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: extcar on June 09, 2010, 04:09:02 pm
totally forgot, i cant even remember what i wrote
and i dont remember whether it said in relation to REM activity either, i just described it. HOPEFULLY IT DIDNT. i swear they didnt bold the words as much as they use to in the previous years. or was it just me ?lol
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: psych93 on June 09, 2010, 04:11:34 pm
Hold on, I don't remeber whether they said in relation to eye movements
but i do remember reading 'there are a number of devices used to dinstinguish REM from NREM' or something like that
so im hoping that there was more than one possible answer.. not only EOG
:P
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 04:13:47 pm
Haven't read the thread yet, not sure if I should demotivate myself so soon.

However,

wtf is with the MC question distinguishing between sensation and perception.


I said the one where perception is a cognitive process. But I thought in this study design, there was no distinction between sensation and perception and perception was considered to be the whole visual process.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 04:14:49 pm
this thread is a massive demotivation lol

I did psychology as my 3/4 last year and got a 39 after screwing up my end of year. Wasn't too happy with my SS, so decided to repeat it lol.
This year I was aiming for 41+ in order for it to be in my top 4. I got an A+ for my midyear last year and a B+ for my end of year but looks like I'm at a worse position this year. Highly doubt I'll get an A+ in this one. Guess I have to pick up my work load in methods and try and get that in my top 4 cause I screwed up this exam :S

Gay

lol
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 04:15:25 pm
Haven't read the thread yet, not sure if I should demotivate myself so soon.

However,

wtf is with the MC question distinguishing between sensation and perception.


I said the one where perception is a cognitive process. But I thought in this study design, there was no distinction between sensation and perception and perception was considered to be the whole visual process.
yea thats what I did. the cognition one
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: minilunchbox on June 09, 2010, 04:15:55 pm
There was nothing about it relating to eye movements. It could've been any device including EEG, EMG.

Also THANK YOU VN, BECAUSE I WAS TOTALLY PERUSING THE THREAD ON PET SCAN SHOWING FUNCTION LAST NIGHT.

AND THEN IT WAS PART OF THE FIRST QUESTION.

I found that amusing during reading time.

-----

I'm pretty sure I said perception was a cognitive process. I can't remember my reasoning. It was probably something ridiculous that popped up in the midst of  my panic
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 04:16:52 pm
I'm very curious to see what will be in the assessor's report...

But it appears many people found it more difficult so don't worry too much!
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: ChairmanMao on June 09, 2010, 04:18:36 pm
"What is the role of the SNS in the 3rd stage of the GAS" the one about the flu
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: extcar on June 09, 2010, 04:21:55 pm
i dunno ~ i've heard people saying it was easy and that it was easier than the previous exams and im like wtf broo??  hopefully it was just them and not like the rest of victoria lol
^ i wrote something body resources being depleted but its in the first couple pages of this thread somewhere
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 04:22:46 pm
My friends said it was pretty easy and i'm doing wayy better than them on SACS
I was like 'am i just being too hard on myself or WTF is going on?!'
LOL
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: minilunchbox on June 09, 2010, 04:23:26 pm
Oh also the multiple choice with the parasympathetic ns and the sympathetic ns.

I didn't know if they had opposite effects and work together or if it was impossible for them to both function at the same time.

Pretty sure I chose that they couldn't function at the same time. But it seems like most people chose that they had opposite effects and work together :/ :/

Damn it, I should've just stayed with my first guess and not change my answer.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 04:25:03 pm
I said opposite effects but work together.. because I don't think one is ever in full control - just dominant... hmmmm
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 04:27:04 pm
Oh also the multiple choice with the parasympathetic ns and the sympathetic ns.

I didn't know if they had opposite effects and work together or if it was impossible for them to both function at the same time.

Pretty sure I chose that they couldn't function at the same time. But it seems like most people chose that they had opposite effects and work together :/ :/

Damn it, I should've just stayed with my first guess and not change my answer.

I did they can't function together aswell

haha wow, last year 43/44. this year 22/44
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 04:27:41 pm
Hey guys. Im checking in for the first time in this thread.

Im pretty confident. I dont think I could have hoped for any better.

One thing that got me was the sleep talking. I said (NREM, stage 4). The book says it occurs in both REM and NREM. Thanks for the trick question VCAA faggots.

I also didnt appreciate them playing on the inconsistent use of the terms perception and sensation.

I think I got 41-2/44 for the MC question and 45/46 for the short answer.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: minilunchbox on June 09, 2010, 04:28:26 pm
I said opposite effects but work together.. because I don't think one is ever in full control - just dominant... hmmmm

Ahh, crap. The word 'impossible' should've tipped me off, but nooooo. Dammit.

I said sleep talking occurs both NREM and REM.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 04:29:14 pm
I laughed out loud @ 'vcaa faggots'

I said 'any stage' coz...um, i remembered lol
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: ChairmanMao on June 09, 2010, 04:29:26 pm
They work together to keep the body in place.
SNS increases activity of the body (visceral muscles, organs, glands) in times of threat. The parasympathetic reverses the bodily changes made by the SNS and keeps homeostatis, so in a way they do work together. Would anyone agree?

Also, the goggles one, it was 'absolute' and 'differential' in the first two 1-mark questions yeah?
And the example, anyone come up with that LOL?

I wrote 'The soldier with the goggles will stand still, 10 hidden men will be in the bushes, laying. at each signal, one of them (from closest to furthest) will move. -TIME WAS UP, RAN OUTTA TIME LOL, was gonna write - the point at which the soldier detects movement is the absolute threshold
0/2 marks ftl
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: extcar on June 09, 2010, 04:30:44 pm
same , sleep talking occurs in both NREM and REM and it was in my free VU lecture notes so if its wrong im blaming VU !!! :D
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 04:30:57 pm
Oh also the multiple choice with the parasympathetic ns and the sympathetic ns.

I didn't know if they had opposite effects and work together or if it was impossible for them to both function at the same time.


I said they each work together but have opposite effects. Whatever that was.
I figured hormones take a while to dissipate so the parasympathetic system take a while to kick into gear. I also didnt like the word 'impossible' in the other answer.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: ChairmanMao on June 09, 2010, 04:31:07 pm
Hey guys. Im checking in for the first time in this thread.

Im pretty confident. I dont think I could have hoped for any better.

One thing that got me was the sleep talking. I said (NREM, stage 4). The book says it occurs in both REM and NREM. Thanks for the trick question VCAA faggots.

I also didnt appreciate them playing on the inconsistent use of the terms perception and sensation.

I think I got 41-2/44 for the MC question and 45/46 for the short answer.

Man, what was the answer for the perception/sensation mc? I spent like 5 minutes trying to figure that out LOL.

Also, sleeptalking would 'likely' occur in NREM. more stages to it, more chance. so i wrote 'NREM'

I reckon above 35 for MC, and above 35 for short.ans , i dont aim high. :P
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 04:31:30 pm
would it be right if you wrote: occurs in all stages of sleep?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: ChairmanMao on June 09, 2010, 04:32:08 pm
same , sleep talking occurs in both NREM and REM and it was in my free VU lecture notes so if its wrong im blaming VU !!! :D
LOL I went there too, footscray? :D The lecturer took too long on brain&nervous system.

What's done is done guys, let's just hope for the best! and kill unit 4!
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: ChairmanMao on June 09, 2010, 04:32:44 pm
would it be right if you wrote: occurs in all stages of sleep?

I don't think so. the question distinctly asked what 'stage' would sleeptalking most likely occur in.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 04:33:00 pm
with the perception sensation ones
sensation = reception, transduction transmission selection?
and perception: organisation and interpretation

BUTTT WTF our teacher always told us they can't really be seperated
fucking hate vcaa
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: akira88 on June 09, 2010, 04:33:17 pm
How about the PET and CT question?
I said that Ct could be used to indicate whether the tumour had gone due to surgery or whether it reappeared, and then i said PET could be used to indicate areas of high and low neuronal activity when performing cognitive tasks like speaking to see whether their had been damage to their speech
Don't think thats right at all though.

And yeah about the 3D questions....
First I described interpostion (obscuring objects blah blah) and then I said that interposition can be used to show distance between objects and therefore creates the impression of a 3d environment?
Wow loks as though this exam has been a major fail .
I thought the question was asking why the CT and PET were used instead of an fMRI, and I said that the patient could have had a pacemaker or metal parts in his body...

Exam was easier than last year's, just hope VCAA don't get too picky with the short answer answers..
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 04:33:39 pm
They work together to keep the body in place.
SNS increases activity of the body (visceral muscles, organs, glands) in times of threat. The parasympathetic reverses the bodily changes made by the SNS and keeps homeostatis, so in a way they do work together. Would anyone agree?

Also, the goggles one, it was 'absolute' and 'differential' in the first two 1-mark questions yeah?
And the example, anyone come up with that LOL?

I wrote 'The soldier with the goggles will stand still, 10 hidden men will be in the bushes, laying. at each signal, one of them (from closest to furthest) will move. -TIME WAS UP, RAN OUTTA TIME LOL, was gonna write - the point at which the soldier detects movement is the absolute threshold
0/2 marks ftl


lol. that was an easy question IMO. A few friends complained though. I stated the definition of absolute threshold then said they should place targets at a distance where the soldier wearing the goggles can only detect the stimulus half (50%) of the time.
Everyone else came up with these complex fucking missions and shit.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 04:33:46 pm
if they dont take 'all stages' imma kill em
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 04:34:19 pm
They work together to keep the body in place.
SNS increases activity of the body (visceral muscles, organs, glands) in times of threat. The parasympathetic reverses the bodily changes made by the SNS and keeps homeostatis, so in a way they do work together. Would anyone agree?

Also, the goggles one, it was 'absolute' and 'differential' in the first two 1-mark questions yeah?
And the example, anyone come up with that LOL?

I wrote 'The soldier with the goggles will stand still, 10 hidden men will be in the bushes, laying. at each signal, one of them (from closest to furthest) will move. -TIME WAS UP, RAN OUTTA TIME LOL, was gonna write - the point at which the soldier detects movement is the absolute threshold
0/2 marks ftl


lol. that was an easy question IMO. A few friends complained though. I stated the definition of absolute threshold then said they should place targets at a distance where the soldier wearing the goggles can only detect the stimulus half (50%) of the time.
Everyone else came up with these complex fucking missions and shit.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 04:35:59 pm
I wrote for the sleep talking one 'any stage of sleep'

It's kind of similar to a past question where they asked 'what are the long-term effects of sleep deprivation?' and the answer was 'none' - trick questions :\
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 04:36:17 pm
Hey guys. Im checking in for the first time in this thread.

Im pretty confident. I dont think I could have hoped for any better.

One thing that got me was the sleep talking. I said (NREM, stage 4). The book says it occurs in both REM and NREM. Thanks for the trick question VCAA faggots.

I also didnt appreciate them playing on the inconsistent use of the terms perception and sensation.

I think I got 41-2/44 for the MC question and 45/46 for the short answer.

Man, what was the answer for the perception/sensation mc? I spent like 5 minutes trying to figure that out LOL.

Also, sleeptalking would 'likely' occur in NREM. more stages to it, more chance. so i wrote 'NREM'

I reckon above 35 for MC, and above 35 for short.ans , i dont aim high. :P

I wrote NREM then put a comma just to hedge my bets, then wrote stage 4 "NREM, Stage 4"
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 04:37:36 pm
They work together to keep the body in place.
SNS increases activity of the body (visceral muscles, organs, glands) in times of threat. The parasympathetic reverses the bodily changes made by the SNS and keeps homeostatis, so in a way they do work together. Would anyone agree?

Also, the goggles one, it was 'absolute' and 'differential' in the first two 1-mark questions yeah?
And the example, anyone come up with that LOL?

I wrote 'The soldier with the goggles will stand still, 10 hidden men will be in the bushes, laying. at each signal, one of them (from closest to furthest) will move. -TIME WAS UP, RAN OUTTA TIME LOL, was gonna write - the point at which the soldier detects movement is the absolute threshold
0/2 marks ftl


lol. that was an easy question IMO. A few friends complained though. I stated the definition of absolute threshold then said they should place targets at a distance where the soldier wearing the goggles can only detect the stimulus half (50%) of the time.
Everyone else came up with these complex fucking missions and shit.

I said the researcher should walk towards the soldier and get the soldier to indicate when they can detect movement. I made the mistake of saying the absolute threshold is the minimum distance where movement can be detected though... fail
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 04:37:52 pm
with the perception sensation ones
sensation = reception, transduction transmission selection?
and perception: organisation and interpretation

BUTTT WTF our teacher always told us they can't really be seperated
fucking hate vcaa


 I chose 'perception involves cognitive something something, whereas sensation doesnt.' Least confident question on the whole thing
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 04:38:31 pm
Hey guys. Im checking in for the first time in this thread.

Im pretty confident. I dont think I could have hoped for any better.

One thing that got me was the sleep talking. I said (NREM, stage 4). The book says it occurs in both REM and NREM. Thanks for the trick question VCAA faggots.

I also didnt appreciate them playing on the inconsistent use of the terms perception and sensation.

I think I got 41-2/44 for the MC question and 45/46 for the short answer.

Man, what was the answer for the perception/sensation mc? I spent like 5 minutes trying to figure that out LOL.

Also, sleeptalking would 'likely' occur in NREM. more stages to it, more chance. so i wrote 'NREM'

I reckon above 35 for MC, and above 35 for short.ans , i dont aim high. :P

I wrote NREM then put a comma just to hedge my bets, then wrote stage 4 "NREM, Stage 4"

Sleep talking can occur in any stage of sleep?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: ChairmanMao on June 09, 2010, 04:39:30 pm
I made the mistake of saying the absolute threshold is the minimum distance where movement can be detected though... fail

wait, that isn't correct? :S

Also, I have another question.

Dr Pravesh and the matched participants. What was a characteristic he needed to match in the participants and why
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 04:41:05 pm
I made the mistake of saying the absolute threshold is the minimum distance where movement can be detected though... fail

wait, that isn't correct? :S

Also, I have another question.

Dr Pravesh and the matched participants. What was a characteristic he needed to match in the participants and why

I was a bit of smartarse on that question.

I said 'gender' because he was studying a MALE population. Therefore participants had to be matched with another male.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: The Detective on June 09, 2010, 04:41:14 pm
:(
the exam was shit

Gotta admit wayyy better than Bio :D


Agreed. I actually had time to recheck this exam!!
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 04:42:15 pm
I put was Stage 4 NREM aswell. Saw it in an assessors report

LOL everyone at school said I was wrong but now I come on here and my chances of 100% are still alive. I thought id come here and have my chances of a 65% crushed.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: ChairmanMao on June 09, 2010, 04:42:53 pm
I made the mistake of saying the absolute threshold is the minimum distance where movement can be detected though... fail

wait, that isn't correct? :S

Also, I have another question.

Dr Pravesh and the matched participants. What was a characteristic he needed to match in the participants and why

I was a bit of smartarse on that question.

I said 'gender' because he was studying a MALE population. Therefore participants had to be matched with another male.

LOOOOOOOOL. Good response, Visionz
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 04:43:12 pm
:(
the exam was shit

Gotta admit wayyy better than Bio :D


Agreed. I actually had time to recheck this exam!!

I had time to take a long piss and blow my nose and proof read the whole thing. I was up to MC question 35 after like 12 mins.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 04:43:31 pm
I made the mistake of saying the absolute threshold is the minimum distance where movement can be detected though... fail

wait, that isn't correct? :S

Also, I have another question.

Dr Pravesh and the matched participants. What was a characteristic he needed to match in the participants and why

no cos if you think about it, it would be when the researcher is the furthest away... yeah i got mixed up with the minimum intensity of light stuff...

For the characteristic i said sporting ability...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 04:43:51 pm
I put was Stage 4 NREM aswell. Saw it in an assessors report

LOL everyone at school said I was wrong but now I come on here and my chances of 100% are still alive. I thought id come here and have my chances of a 65% crushed.

shit sorry dude I was wrong. I definitely thought I read it somewhere. My mistake :(
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 04:44:11 pm
for the characteristic I said catching ability
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: The Detective on June 09, 2010, 04:44:19 pm
They work together to keep the body in place.
SNS increases activity of the body (visceral muscles, organs, glands) in times of threat. The parasympathetic reverses the bodily changes made by the SNS and keeps homeostatis, so in a way they do work together. Would anyone agree?

Also, the goggles one, it was 'absolute' and 'differential' in the first two 1-mark questions yeah?
And the example, anyone come up with that LOL?

I wrote 'The soldier with the goggles will stand still, 10 hidden men will be in the bushes, laying. at each signal, one of them (from closest to furthest) will move. -TIME WAS UP, RAN OUTTA TIME LOL, was gonna write - the point at which the soldier detects movement is the absolute threshold
0/2 marks ftl


but at the same time? I thought it would be impossible for pupils to dilate and contract simultaneously... think I got that wrong than
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: psych93 on June 09, 2010, 04:44:37 pm
Serious? I wrote experience with catching tennis balls
hahaha !
I'm a douche.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 04:47:19 pm
read page 135 of the grivas book - says coordinated activities and produce opposite effects.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: ChairmanMao on June 09, 2010, 04:47:35 pm
LOL psych93.

I wrote 'vision', blind dudes can't catch = extraneous variable = affect results = dr pravesh wild
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 04:48:14 pm
Sleep talking occurs in any stage. I'm 100% sure
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 04:49:41 pm
yea your right
I don't know why the hell my notes say "sleepwalking, sleeptalking and night terrors may occur" under Stage 4 NREM sleep

where did I get that from. It lost me another mark!!

Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 04:50:02 pm
Sleep talking occurs in any stage. I'm 100% sure

Thats what grivas textbook says. I think its shit that they can ask a question like that in short answer format.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: ChairmanMao on June 09, 2010, 04:51:34 pm
Can someone tell VN what they wrote describing the sensory stuff and Karen's hand and the coffeee cup being too hot
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 04:53:07 pm
^^ that was soo annoying - 4 marks!!

i said basically sensory receptors from skin send information to brain where it is being perceived as being to hot, brain initiates voluntary movement to put down the glass by sending information that is conveyed to the skeletal muscles

it was more detailed and stuff but yeahh...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 04:53:22 pm
Can someone tell VN what they wrote describing the sensory stuff and Karen's hand and the coffeee cup being too hot
Pretty much said sensory receptors from her right hand sent affarent neurons to her somatosensory cortex via the spinal cord. This registered the sensation of hot temperature, the motor cortex then sent motor neurons to her right hand via the spinal cord, allowing voluntary movement of the skeletal muscles to put the cup down
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: The Detective on June 09, 2010, 04:53:36 pm
read page 135 of the grivas book - says coordinated activities and produce opposite effects.

oh geeee I had that answer than I had time, got indecisive and changed my answer...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 04:56:58 pm
You know for the one with ESB and sensation in the hands... was it something like stimulate areas of the somatosensory cortex with a patient conscious, when the patient reports feeling sensation or no sensation, this shows the location on the cortex????
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: extcar on June 09, 2010, 04:57:16 pm
wait isnt experience catching tennis balls right ? i wrote something like taht too :(
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: ChairmanMao on June 09, 2010, 04:59:57 pm
Reading this thread, wow I think my mark's gonna be lowered. LOL
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 05:00:01 pm
Can someone tell VN what they wrote describing the sensory stuff and Karen's hand and the coffeee cup being too hot

One of the MC questions asked about the autonomic system and it said how sensory receptors gather info then sensory nuerons take it to the brain etc. I used that to job mymemory.

I said : sensory receptors receive info from internal and external stimuli [not sure about internal*] (such as karen sensing hot glass) and sensory neurons send info to the CNS via sensory/afferent nerves. The brain processes this info and send motor neurons via efferent nerves to the skeletal muscle for movement. This process coordinated the movement of karen putting teh glass down.  
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 05:00:17 pm
You know for the one with ESB and sensation in the hands... was it something like stimulate areas of the somatosensory cortex with a patient conscious, when the patient reports feeling sensation or no sensation, this shows the location on the cortex????
Yea something like that
My answer first defined ESB:
The ESB method involves weak electric currents stimulating specific regions of a brain in order to illicit a response.

Then I got more specific and said 'they'd have to stimulate parts of the somatosensory cortex until the patient illicited a response in there hand...'

much better worded, I can't remember the question so my answer here is shit lol
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 05:01:01 pm
Reading this thread, wow I think my mark's gonna be lowered. LOL
feel the exact same way
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 05:01:05 pm
You know for the one with ESB and sensation in the hands... was it something like stimulate areas of the somatosensory cortex with a patient conscious, when the patient reports feeling sensation or no sensation, this shows the location on the cortex????

I wrote something along those lines, a little more detailed answer with correct terminology.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 05:02:23 pm
I wrote something along those lines, a little more detailed answer with correct terminology. Also mentioned it shows active areas of brain when conducting the particular task.
Wait, how does the esb method show active areas of the brain??? Did you confuse it with the PET scan cause an ESB is a hands on method which involves directly stimulating the brain rather then a picture of a brain coming up on a screen...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 05:02:47 pm
You know for the one with ESB and sensation in the hands... was it something like stimulate areas of the somatosensory cortex with a patient conscious, when the patient reports feeling sensation or no sensation, this shows the location on the cortex????

I said:
The primary somatosensory cortex of the brain is located in the front of the parietal lobe. This area can be electrically stimulated and when the patient feels sensation in the hands the brain can be mapped.  
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 05:03:45 pm
You know for the one with ESB and sensation in the hands... was it something like stimulate areas of the somatosensory cortex with a patient conscious, when the patient reports feeling sensation or no sensation, this shows the location on the cortex????
Yea something like that
My answer first defined ESB:
The ESB method involves weak electric currents stimulating specific regions of a brain in order to illicit a response.

Then I got more specific and said 'they'd have to stimulate parts of the somatosensory cortex until the patient illicited a response in there hand...'

much better worded, I can't remember the question so my answer here is shit lol

Yep yep yep - lol I didn't write exactly that (that's probably a bad answer) and I definitely remember writing something about weak electrical currents so that's good.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 05:06:17 pm
I wrote something along those lines, a little more detailed answer with correct terminology. Also mentioned it shows active areas of brain when conducting the particular task.
Wait, how does the esb method show active areas of the brain??? Did you confuse it with the PET scan cause an ESB is a hands on method which involves directly stimulating the brain rather then a picture of a brain coming up on a screen...


No sorry my bad, i edited it out from my previous reply. I didnt write active areas in the exam for ESB, i was referring to the PET scan qn. Sorry..
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: alannah on June 09, 2010, 05:08:04 pm
I don't know if I just wasn't reading the question properly but I distinctly remember thinking that the MC on case studies had really obscure answers.  What did everyone choose? Also, my hopes of an A+ have gone down the drain...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 05:08:12 pm
Oh also the multiple choice with the parasympathetic ns and the sympathetic ns.

I didn't know if they had opposite effects and work together or if it was impossible for them to both function at the same time.

Pretty sure I chose that they couldn't function at the same time. But it seems like most people chose that they had opposite effects and work together :/ :/

Damn it, I should've just stayed with my first guess and not change my answer.
i was in the exact same position in that question lol. i heard somewhere though that your first response is more likely to be more accurate. I ended up going for my first response which was c which luckily for me most people got
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 05:10:41 pm
Oi lads what did you do for the gestalt principles questions?

I did figure-ground for the columns of circles. I thought the contour line belonging to the circles was able to be separated from the ground and so this cue was able to be used.
I was umming'n'arring between  proximity and figure-ground. I thougth legitimate arguments could be made for both.

I did an amazing answer for the next one using Similarity.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 05:11:58 pm
Oi lads what did you do for the gestalt principles questions?

I did figure-ground for the columns of circles. I thought the contour line belonging to the circles was able to be separated from the ground and so this cue was able to be used.
I was umming'n'arring between  proximity and figure-ground. I thougth legitimate arguments could be made for both.

I did an amazing answer for the next one using Similarity.
I did figure-ground aswell. most people did proximity. I initially did proximity but thought I could explain figure-ground better

Your answer better have been amazing cause I don't see how it is anything other then closure for the next one lol
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 05:12:30 pm
Proximity.
And the last one was closure- not similarity :\
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 05:13:47 pm
Dr Pravesh and the matched participants. What was a characteristic he needed to match in the participants and why
i wrote coordination level, would that be right?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 05:14:05 pm
I wrote stress is perceived as a threat as well :)

What did you guys write for the advantages or disadvantages (cant remember) of the repeated measures design?

time consuming

but are you sure it's something perceived as a threat?  like my palms were sweaty in the exam but not because i perceived the exam as a threat..

I think you did perceive the exam as a psychological threat.


nahhh as an opportunity! that i should try hard in
but nothing "threatening" about it

i just didn't like the word threat

if i have to work 12 hours a day, i don't feel threatened by it, its just a stressor that activates my GAS...

Exam tension is the quintessential example of a psychological threat. You were getting ready to fight (which you chose to do) or flee (stay home)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 05:15:10 pm
Dr Pravesh and the matched participants. What was a characteristic he needed to match in the participants and why
i wrote coordination level, would that be right?
could be if you explained it well
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: ChairmanMao on June 09, 2010, 05:15:42 pm
I put D for the question above
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 05:16:15 pm
Proximity.
And the last one was closure- not similarity :\

Yeah I did promixity and closure as well.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 05:16:23 pm
could be if you explained it well
how many marks was it worth? from memory wasn't it worth one?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: psych93 on June 09, 2010, 05:17:03 pm
alannah > i did the one about the confounding variable (i think it was the first one)
i had no idea ! What did other people get ?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 05:17:35 pm
Oi lads what did you do for the gestalt principles questions?

I did figure-ground for the columns of circles. I thought the contour line belonging to the circles was able to be separated from the ground and so this cue was able to be used.
I was umming'n'arring between  proximity and figure-ground. I thougth legitimate arguments could be made for both.

I did an amazing answer for the next one using Similarity.
I did figure-ground aswell. most people did proximity. I initially did proximity but thought I could explain figure-ground better

Your answer better have been amazing cause I don't see how it is anything other then closure for the next one lol

I did similarity aswell because elements will common characteristics (the circles) are perceptually grouped together to form the circle.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 05:17:43 pm
Oi lads what did you do for the gestalt principles questions?

I did figure-ground for the columns of circles. I thought the contour line belonging to the circles was able to be separated from the ground and so this cue was able to be used.
I was umming'n'arring between  proximity and figure-ground. I thougth legitimate arguments could be made for both.

I did an amazing answer for the next one using Similarity.
I did figure-ground aswell. most people did proximity. I initially did proximity but thought I could explain figure-ground better

Your answer better have been amazing cause I don't see how it is anything other then closure for the next one lol

It was similarity ladies and gentlemen. Its like the European union flag. http://www.aanewsletter.ie/edition/5/img/european-union-flag.gif We dont 'close the gaps' to perceive a complete circle. Similarity is the tendency to percieve elements of a stimulus which appear alike as belonging together to form a meaningful whole. In this instance the elements (circle) are grouped together to form a much larger circle.

-1 mark for the rest of you :D
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 05:17:57 pm
I wrote stress is perceived as a threat as well :)

What did you guys write for the advantages or disadvantages (cant remember) of the repeated measures design?

time consuming

but are you sure it's something perceived as a threat?  like my palms were sweaty in the exam but not because i perceived the exam as a threat..

I think you did perceive the exam as a psychological threat.


nahhh as an opportunity! that i should try hard in
but nothing "threatening" about it

i just didn't like the word threat

if i have to work 12 hours a day, i don't feel threatened by it, its just a stressor that activates my GAS...

Exam tension is the quintessential example of a psychological threat. You were getting ready to fight (which you chose to do) or flee (stay home)

I'm hoping it is perceived as a threat, only one that made sense to me..
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 05:19:24 pm

I'm hoping it is perceived as a threat, only one that made sense to me..

Thats what I did. I was a bit unsure about that question too. Everyone here seems to have chosen that though so im happy.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 05:20:00 pm
alannah > i did the one about the confounding variable (i think it was the first one)
i had no idea ! What did other people get ?

i got that but mainly because i didnt think the others were right.didnt really understand "a" but it seemed the most correct
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 05:20:29 pm
Oi lads what did you do for the gestalt principles questions?

I did figure-ground for the columns of circles. I thought the contour line belonging to the circles was able to be separated from the ground and so this cue was able to be used.
I was umming'n'arring between  proximity and figure-ground. I thougth legitimate arguments could be made for both.

I did an amazing answer for the next one using Similarity.
I did figure-ground aswell. most people did proximity. I initially did proximity but thought I could explain figure-ground better

Your answer better have been amazing cause I don't see how it is anything other then closure for the next one lol

It was similarity ladies and gentlemen. Its like the European union flag. http://www.aanewsletter.ie/edition/5/img/european-union-flag.gif We dont 'close the gaps' to perceive a complete circle. Similarity is the tendency to percieve elements of a stimulus which appear alike as belonging together to form a meaningful whole. In this instance the elements (circle) are grouped together to form a much larger circle.

-1 mark for the rest of you :D

I did similarity but I think it could have been either.... personally in the exam I didn't even consider closure because I didn't think the stimulus looked incomplete - but I can now see how it could have been.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 05:20:37 pm
I viewed the image as a large circle, therefore it's closure
Don't be such a brat visionz
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 05:21:25 pm
alannah > i did the one about the confounding variable (i think it was the first one)
i had no idea ! What did other people get ?

i got that but mainly because i didnt think the others were right.didnt really understand "a" but it seemed the most correct

oh nooo i think i did the generalisation one :S
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 05:22:34 pm
so did i tash
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 05:23:00 pm
I viewed the image as a large circle, therefore it's closure
Don't be such a brat visionz
it is subjective, people could have viewed it in different ways. most i think would have viewed it as closure
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 05:23:49 pm
I viewed the image as a large circle, therefore it's closure
Don't be such a brat visionz
it is subjective, people could have viewed it in different ways. most i think would have viewed it as closure

Closure seems the immediate one to be apparent, lets hope its correct..
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: extcar on June 09, 2010, 05:24:10 pm
i wrote closure and proximity
but i didnt relate it back to the fkn picture, we're we supposed to? cos i dont remember it saying so ...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: minilunchbox on June 09, 2010, 05:24:22 pm
It could've been similarity or closure, just like figure-ground probably would've worked as well as long as you explain it properly.

Also, yeah you definitely would have had to relate it back to the picture. That's why they were there.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 05:24:57 pm
it didn't say relate back to the picture
and yeh hawks- i meant that it could be either.
he was just being an ass about it
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: alannah on June 09, 2010, 05:25:37 pm
alannah > i did the one about the confounding variable (i think it was the first one)
i had no idea ! What did other people get ?

i got that but mainly because i didnt think the others were right.didnt really understand "a" but it seemed the most correct

oh nooo i think i did the generalisation one :S
I think I did the confounding, all I can remember is that I wasn't certain about it
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 05:25:52 pm
I'm pretty sure you had to specifically relate it back to the picture to gain full marks..
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 05:26:06 pm
I viewed the image as a large circle, therefore it's closure
Don't be such a brat visionz

You clearly dont demonstrate understanding of the gestalt principle of closure. If you used closure you would see one big circle. The picture would look like a 'C' and you'd use closure to fill up the missing gap in the 'C' to form one large circle.

Its not closure.


And yes im preempting the assessors report.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 05:26:48 pm
We'll just agree to disagree, mmk?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 05:27:39 pm
We'll just agree to disagree, mmk?

You owe gobbies when the assessors report comes back and im right.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 05:29:13 pm
rofl. hell to the no.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 05:30:07 pm
i tried
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 05:32:00 pm
rofl. hell to the no.
i reckon it is more likely they could play both because it is realistically possible to perceive either
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: ks31 on June 09, 2010, 05:34:45 pm
Closure will be accepted as well as similarity. Unless you can state why closure wouldn't work? Its quite clearly closing up the gaps to make a meaningful whole (the circle).
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Nullisecundus on June 09, 2010, 05:35:18 pm
I'm pretty sure its closure..

all the items were similar (all circles), and there were gaps in the stimuli, so you mentally closeup or fillin the gaps of the visual stimuli to perceive the image as a meaningful whole (a larger circle) ?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 05:35:33 pm
closure will definitely work. and to be honest im not completely convinced with his similarity explanation...

anyway im gonna stop posting here. ive realised i screwed up this exam big time , might aswell cut my losses and stop wasting time fretting on these forums. cya everyone
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Nullisecundus on June 09, 2010, 05:36:12 pm
agreed;

they could definately possibly pay both

but in all honesty, closure has a much higher chance of being paid then similarity.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 05:38:15 pm
try harder bitch
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: ks31 on June 09, 2010, 05:38:55 pm
And also i think similarity would be more likely if there were other shapes there - there were only circles (with gaps).
however i think both will probably be awarded - provided you explain them well and relate it back
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 05:43:47 pm
who got a for mc1? who got c?
i got c but there seems to be some confusion
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: extcar on June 09, 2010, 05:47:30 pm
where 3/4 brain neurouns are was the question yea?
im prettyyyy sure that its C: Cerebral cortex
was it just me or did was there a lot of D's in MC
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 05:51:56 pm
where 3/4 brain neurouns are was the question yea?
im prettyyyy sure that its C: Cerebral cortex
was it just me or did was there a lot of D's in MC
not sure but i remember there wasn't a B until question 20 or so
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 05:56:52 pm
what did everyone get for physiological changes for asc?
i wasnt sure and one of them i said
loss of self control
any chance that is right?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: alannah on June 09, 2010, 05:58:04 pm
I want August to come so I can see how I did. That's the crap thing about doing so many prac exams, you can correct them instantly with examiner's reports...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: extcar on June 09, 2010, 05:58:44 pm
my friend said it was the decrease heart rate and blood flow and shit like that
i wrote something stupid like sleepiness or something, cant even remember
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: psych93 on June 09, 2010, 05:59:41 pm
i said loss of control of bodily movements
and increased body temperature?
haha no idea if the 2nd one is right
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 06:03:11 pm
where 3/4 brain neurouns are was the question yea?
im prettyyyy sure that its C: Cerebral cortex
was it just me or did was there a lot of D's in MC

Yes I got heaps of Ds at one point
what did everyone get for physiological changes for asc?
i wasnt sure and one of them i said
loss of self control
any chance that is right?

Omg i could just not think at that point.... I said reduced coordination of body movements and acting in a less inhibited way (but that would be psychological probably)

Also... MC 1 was pretty basic I thought - cerebral cortex (c)...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 06:03:31 pm
lol cant remember what my other one was. all i know is that it was off the top of my head and was guessed. proz and answer similar to my first
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: alannah on June 09, 2010, 06:05:05 pm
Body Temperature and GSR... there was a section of my lecture's notes on other physiological changed during ASC that stated them but i'm not sure as I think that they might be more directed at sleep :S
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 06:05:20 pm
Omg i could just not think at that point.... I said reduced coordination of body movements and acting in a less inhibited way (but that would be psychological probably)
that is the same as self control which is sort of both so im not sure
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 06:06:19 pm
Body Temperature and GSR... there was a section of my lecture's notes on other physiological changed during ASC that stated them but i'm not sure as I think that they might be more directed at sleep :S
but sleep is an asc so that will probably be right but you never know
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 06:06:52 pm
^^ Yeahhh, couldn't think of anything else.... oh well
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 06:07:39 pm
^^ Yeahhh, couldn't think of anything else.... oh well
50/50 to get it right?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: kiraxxx on June 09, 2010, 06:17:00 pm
what the fuck was with the goggles question :\

LOL i know
I wrote absolute for the first
and differential for second
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 06:17:34 pm
this is literally what i'm doing rn

http://i45.tinypic.com/2ak9w0w.jpg

rofl.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: cdjm92 on June 09, 2010, 06:17:39 pm
Body Temperature and GSR... there was a section of my lecture's notes on other physiological changed during ASC that stated them but i'm not sure as I think that they might be more directed at sleep :S

i keep forgetting during exam/practice questions but the physiological changes include the simple obvious things like
•sleepiness
•aches and pains in body
•fatigue
•micro-sleeps
•hand tremors
•drooping eyelids
•difficulty focusing eyes
•lack of energy and strength
•slurred speech
•increased sensitivity to pain
•slower heart rate and respiratory rate
•drop in body temperature
•slower reaction time.

(quoted from 2009 exam assessment report)
i kept trying to remember things like heart rate etc, lol
everyone knows what its like to be sleep deprived, especially VCE students like us during exam period!!!
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: kiraxxx on June 09, 2010, 06:20:12 pm
what does eveyone think they got out of 90? before coming on here I would have said 80's but know i reckon i got heaps less


maybe early 80's
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 06:20:32 pm
this threads making me so devo
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 06:21:11 pm
umm it didnt ask about sleep deprivation?!?!?!
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: iNerd on June 09, 2010, 06:24:37 pm
so basically I should be thrilled that the study design is changing next year?
I'm aiming for a 47 + and this thread is putting me off pysch lol  :-\
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 06:25:04 pm
Body Temperature and GSR... there was a section of my lecture's notes on other physiological changed during ASC that stated them but i'm not sure as I think that they might be more directed at sleep :S

i keep forgetting during exam/practice questions but the physiological changes include the simple obvious things like
•sleepiness
•aches and pains in body
•fatigue
•micro-sleeps
•hand tremors
•drooping eyelids
•difficulty focusing eyes
•lack of energy and strength
•slurred speech
•increased sensitivity to pain
•slower heart rate and respiratory rate
•drop in body temperature
•slower reaction time.

(quoted from 2009 exam assessment report)
i kept trying to remember things like heart rate etc, lol
everyone knows what its like to be sleep deprived, especially VCE students like us during exam period!!!

yeah i believe it was on an altered state of consciousness...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Lozzee on June 09, 2010, 06:35:53 pm
No no, I said exhaustion as well. She already was taking on two stressors; concern for her son and her job. This made her more susceptable to a cold (an additional stressor), which enivitably resulted in her moving from resistance (when she experienced her headaches) into exhaustion.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: cdjm92 on June 09, 2010, 06:41:37 pm
i said resistance (caught flu whilst resisting stressor)
the added stress of flu ended up tipping her over into exhaustion (then was overall psychosomatic illness not just flu)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Slumdawg on June 09, 2010, 06:48:59 pm
I did 12 practice exams, + all the VCAA ones and still I found it hard. The distractors in the multiple choice were very smart. I've gotta give props to the exam writers they sure do know how to come up with tricky questions. There were about 5-10 tricky multiple choice. I was only confident in states of consciousness. Thank god I read that sleep talking mainly occurs in stage 4 in the 2002 assessors report LAST NIGHT. Also liked the informed consent one at the end. I read over my sister's notes and it had written that you need to be over 18 to give informed consent so thank god for that.

I think its a bit too early to be saying definitive statements such as the pictures could ONLY be similarity. Those are open to interpretation and often assessors will accept a whole range of answers if they were explained correctly. As for me I wrote proximity for both. I know it was risky but everything happens for a reason. My teacher said it should be alright, so I'm praying she's right. At least the end of year will most likely be easy.

I thought the question about GAS said what stage was Tasha in when she contracted the flu. And thus lead me to write down resistance. But exhaustion is also probably acceptable.

All in all. I would vote the 2010 psych exam as the hardest VCAA exam of this current study design. I know thats a big call and heaps of people said it was easy but I believe it was difficult and required a lot of knowledge.

I hope everyone did well and gets the mark that reflects the effort they put in. In most cases it will pay off whether or not you think it did.  :)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: jinny1 on June 09, 2010, 06:54:49 pm
yea i found this exam the hardest out of all the past exams until 2005.


Is unit 4 easier?? it only has two area of studies so you dont need to memorise as much...

genenrally which exams (mid or final) performs better?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 06:58:14 pm
2009 assessors report MC 43 says sleep talking can occur in any stage of sleep.. but I guess it did say 'most likely'
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: lolbox on June 09, 2010, 07:05:54 pm
so basically I should be thrilled that the study design is changing next year?
I'm aiming for a 47 + and this thread is putting me off pysch lol  :-\
I know I don't know your capabilities but if your aiming for a SS of 47+ I wouldn't recommend psych at all. There are so many different variables which can effect your score in psychology. There are other subjects which are MUCH easier to systematically get a 50 then psychology. Its sort of random its hard to explain. Things such as the 44 multiple choice, sure this is pleasing for many, but for top-end students...the risk of error is really high and you can easily be tricked in multis. They'd probably be better off in a subject such as legal studies, economics...etc
 EG - I know someone who got a 41 in psych and 48+ in everything else despite putting the same effort in all there subjects

I don't know. i could be wrong, thats just my view
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 07:09:09 pm
2009 assessors report MC 43 says sleep talking can occur in any stage of sleep.. but I guess it did say 'most likely'
i think they would have to give "any stage" as a correct answer because thats what is says in a number of resources. Somtimes from past experience, i have noticed that people try and work out trick questions which aren't actually trick questions. I have done it before and i remember someone saying at one of those lectures at examiners dont usually put much non-obvious meaning in multiple choice. thats just imo though
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: minilunchbox on June 09, 2010, 07:13:19 pm
I read over my sister's notes and it had written that you need to be over 18 to give informed consent so thank god for that.

Haha, yes I remembered that because of the research experience I have to do for UMEP and I'm not 18 yet. Woo.

Also, isn't there 3 area of studies for unit 4? Even though research methods is like super short.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: ks31 on June 09, 2010, 07:15:28 pm
From what i remember it just said 'likely' not 'most likely' as well - not sure if that changes anything. I said sleep talking can happen in any stage of sleep.

Also do you think they will take a mark off for not saying 'written consent from a parent/guardian'? I saw that as a bit of trick and wrote it but know others that didn't. They were year 9 students so they wouldn't have been 18 - therefore requiring parent/guardian.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 07:16:33 pm
Ah shit I just realised for that informed consent one I may not have gotten full marks, if any.

I said the participants must be told about the nature and purpose of the study and that they had to produce formal non-verbal/written consent. [not word for word]

Is that any good?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 09, 2010, 07:16:48 pm
God, Visionz is a douche. He either doesnt understand the principles himself or is after attention.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 07:17:32 pm
From what i remember it just said 'likely' not 'most likely' as well - not sure if that changes anything. I said sleep talking can happen in any stage of sleep.

Also do you think they will take a mark off for not saying 'written consent from a parent/guardian'? I saw that as a bit of trick and wrote it but know others that didn't. They were year 9 students so they wouldn't have been 18 - therefore requiring parent/guardian.
think so, it was out of 2.1 mark for that and the other mark explaining informed consent
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: bomb on June 09, 2010, 07:17:49 pm
Ah shit I just realised for that informed consent one I may not have gotten full marks, if any.

I said the participants must be told about the nature and purpose of the study and that they had to produce formal non-verbal/written consent. [not word for word]

Is that any good?

Had to be from the parents.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 07:20:38 pm
God, Visionz is a douche. He either doesnt understand the principles himself or is after attention.

We'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 07:21:25 pm
Ah shit I just realised for that informed consent one I may not have gotten full marks, if any.

I said the participants must be told about the nature and purpose of the study and that they had to produce formal non-verbal/written consent. [not word for word]

Is that any good?

i think you would have got 1 mark out of 2. to get 2 you needed to also right about consent of legal guardian i think.
i wrote
"Participants would need to have been informed and educated about the "type of" and  "reason for" the experiment to take place. written consent would need to be obtained from legal guardians.
i hope that will get me 2. it wasnt exactly that but it was similar
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 07:22:21 pm
Ah shit I just realised for that informed consent one I may not have gotten full marks, if any.

I said the participants must be told about the nature and purpose of the study and that they had to produce formal non-verbal/written consent. [not word for word]


Is that any good?

Had to be from the parents.

Did the question specifically ask for that answer? Or was there numerous other choices?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Glockmeister on June 09, 2010, 07:23:19 pm
God, Visionz is a douche. He either doesnt understand the principles himself or is after attention.

We'll have to wait and see.

I didn't do the exam, but if the participant is under 18, permission is need from parents/guardians.

EDIT: The Parents must also be briefed on the experiment i.e. the parents must give informed consent too.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: alannah on June 09, 2010, 07:26:06 pm
Oh, this talk of written consent has triggered another multiple choice question. The one about performing research and which one was seen as unethical (or something to that effect) and the choices were: "the researcher proceeded with verbal consent" "the participant became unwell during the study". I can't recall the two others. although it may have been one of them . What was the correct answer?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 09, 2010, 07:27:09 pm
God, Visionz is a douche. He either doesnt understand the principles himself or is after attention.

We'll have to wait and see.

I will work your shaft daily if closure isnt an acceptable answer
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 07:27:26 pm
Oh, this talk of written consent has triggered another multiple choice question. The one about performing research and which one was seen as unethical (or something to that effect) and the choices were: "the researcher proceeded with verbal consent" "the participant became unwell during the study". I can't recall the two others. although it may have been one of them . What was the correct answer?
i put the verbal consent one
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Spreadbury on June 09, 2010, 07:29:10 pm
the exam took me ages, I usually took an hour - hour and ten minutes to complete practice exams but I only finished with 5 minutes left today, almost no time to check over it :(

haha the more I read these boards the more worried I get about my result. I was so sure that the girl who got sick was in the exhaustion stage, resistance never occurred to me...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: iNerd on June 09, 2010, 07:30:16 pm
so basically I should be thrilled that the study design is changing next year?
I'm aiming for a 47 + and this thread is putting me off pysch lol  :-\
I know I don't know your capabilities but if your aiming for a SS of 47+ I wouldn't recommend psych at all. There are so many different variables which can effect your score in psychology. There are other subjects which are MUCH easier to systematically get a 50 then psychology. Its sort of random its hard to explain. Things such as the 44 multiple choice, sure this is pleasing for many, but for top-end students...the risk of error is really high and you can easily be tricked in multis. They'd probably be better off in a subject such as legal studies, economics...etc
 EG - I know someone who got a 41 in psych and 48+ in everything else despite putting the same effort in all there subjects

I don't know. i could be wrong, thats just my view
hmm fascinating. Economics 2hard. Legal studies was appealing but then I saw the book...then I saw the pysch book... Then i took into account that Legal only has ONE exam which requires a lot of memory...and then also I find pysch way more interesting then legal stuff so yh...and i quite like the idea of tons of MCQ :P...especially in comparison with legal which is just SA and requires precise answers.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 07:32:17 pm
fck i didn't write about the under 18 thing
DAMN EXAM PRESSURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i hate how exams are the be all and end all
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: minilunchbox on June 09, 2010, 07:34:51 pm
Oh, this talk of written consent has triggered another multiple choice question. The one about performing research and which one was seen as unethical (or something to that effect) and the choices were: "the researcher proceeded with verbal consent" "the participant became unwell during the study". I can't recall the two others. although it may have been one of them . What was the correct answer?
i put the verbal consent one

Yeah, I chose verbal consent too.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 07:35:50 pm
Oh, this talk of written consent has triggered another multiple choice question. The one about performing research and which one was seen as unethical (or something to that effect) and the choices were: "the researcher proceeded with verbal consent" "the participant became unwell during the study". I can't recall the two others. although it may have been one of them . What was the correct answer?

Verbal consent.


Shaft stroking is good.
From my perspective (inb4 subjective = both are acceptable) the stimulus was meant to be perceived as heaps of little circles contained in one big circle. Closure would have it that all the little circles were to be ignored for the purpose of seeing the big circle. Similarity is the only one which acknowledges the little circles are meant to be kept separate.
Hard to explain.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: jinny1 on June 09, 2010, 07:37:59 pm
hey is A+ 95% for the SACS and exams??

if you get A+ for all your sacs and exams then what would your study score be at least?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: alannah on June 09, 2010, 07:39:23 pm
Oh, this talk of written consent has triggered another multiple choice question. The one about performing research and which one was seen as unethical (or something to that effect) and the choices were: "the researcher proceeded with verbal consent" "the participant became unwell during the study". I can't recall the two others. although it may have been one of them . What was the correct answer?

Verbal consent.


Shaft stroking is good.
From my perspective (inb4 subjective = both are acceptable) the stimulus was meant to be perceived as heaps of little circles contained in one big circle. Closure would have it that all the little circles were to be ignored for the purpose of seeing the big circle. Similarity is the only one which acknowledges the little circles are meant to be kept separate.
Hard to explain.
Oh good, I chose verbal consent too :)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: minilunchbox on June 09, 2010, 07:40:21 pm
hey is A+ 95% for the SACS and exams??

if you get A+ for all your sacs and exams then what would your study score be at least?

38 or 39.

That's for super low A+s.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 07:41:09 pm
hmm fascinating. Economics 2hard. Legal studies was appealing but then I saw the book...then I saw the pysch book... Then i took into account that Legal only has ONE exam which requires a lot of memory...and then also I find pysch way more interesting then legal stuff so yh...and i quite like the idea of tons of MCQ :P...especially in comparison with legal which is just SA and requires precise answers.
[/quote]

Legal is my best subject but boy is it a pain in the ass. Its pure memory. Its insane. I do so many ROTE subjects. Im actually excited to catch up with my further now, I even brought my books home today. The idea of applying formulas and stuff and actually having to think, rather than having to recall, at the moment is so novel. :D
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: jinny1 on June 09, 2010, 07:42:41 pm
hey is A+ 95% for the SACS and exams??

if you get A+ for all your sacs and exams then what would your study score be at least?

38 or 39.

That's for super low A+s.

THanks... so A+ are 95%?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 07:47:20 pm
A+ changes every year. Last year it was 79/90
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 07:48:46 pm
A+ changes every year. Last year it was 79/90

but i think this years was a bit easier than last years?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: alannah on June 09, 2010, 07:49:28 pm
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/statistics/2009/section3/vce_psychology_ga09.pdf   grade distribution from last year
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 07:53:15 pm
what's with girls beating boys.. :(
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 08:01:06 pm
A+ changes every year. Last year it was 79/90

but i think this years was a bit easier than last years?
well then you shoudl think it will be higher. your guess is as good as ours though.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 08:04:55 pm
what's with girls beating boys.. :(

Those things are misleading. Males usually get the very best marks.

My theory is that men are ultimately smarter. Women were only allowed to be educated not long ago, so school is still a novelty for them.
This theory accounts for the whole phenomenon IMO. :P
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 09, 2010, 08:08:19 pm
gurlz r only gud 4 cooking n cleaningz bro.. dem womenz are dum as
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 08:11:30 pm
gurlz r only gud 4 cooking n cleaningz bro.. dem womenz are dum as

you forgot fucking.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 08:11:41 pm
i know i was really surprised that there were girls doing the exam with me today, the kitchen must have been completely empty?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: cdjm92 on June 09, 2010, 08:14:37 pm
Oh, this talk of written consent has triggered another multiple choice question. The one about performing research and which one was seen as unethical (or something to that effect) and the choices were: "the researcher proceeded with verbal consent" "the participant became unwell during the study". I can't recall the two others. although it may have been one of them . What was the correct answer?
i think that one was the written consent,
whether he becomes ill during experiment isnt ethically wrong but their treatment maybe (must be allowed to withdraw etc). Ethically, researcher must obtain consent, but im not sure if it has to be written....
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 08:14:46 pm
:o
I'M OFFENDED!!!!
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 09, 2010, 08:15:11 pm
gurlz r only gud 4 cooking n cleaningz bro.. dem womenz are dum as

you forgot fucking.

yeah, gotta slay dem bitches too. Yeah Rudaid, hopefully theyre making up for it tonight
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 08:18:10 pm
i know i was really surprised that there were girls doing the exam with me today, the kitchen must have been completely empty?

special consideration brah.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: cdjm92 on June 09, 2010, 08:21:36 pm
gurlz r only gud 4 cooking n cleaningz bro.. dem womenz are dum as
not quite sure how to respond to this...just in case ur all just joking...
girls are generally better at psychology and biology, men at chemistry and physics. Maybe not for VCE i dont know but in general.

besides theres is evidence that girls were dominant in some cultures (only girls educated/vote etc)

by the way, im a man, and not a feminist :)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 08:21:52 pm
i hate you all
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 08:23:05 pm
we weren't joking.
i thought the separation was like
girls: home ec.
boys: maths, science, humanities
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: alannah on June 09, 2010, 08:23:19 pm
Oh, this talk of written consent has triggered another multiple choice question. The one about performing research and which one was seen as unethical (or something to that effect) and the choices were: "the researcher proceeded with verbal consent" "the participant became unwell during the study". I can't recall the two others. although it may have been one of them . What was the correct answer?
i think that one was the written consent,
whether he becomes ill during experiment isnt ethically wrong but their treatment maybe (must be allowed to withdraw etc). Ethically, researcher must obtain consent, but im not sure if it has to be written....

Seems to be the general consensus. All will be revealed in August!
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 08:24:18 pm
i hate you all

We respect your opinion lol JK youre a girl

jest kidding
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 08:25:18 pm
we weren't joking.
i thought the separation was like
girls: home ec.
boys: maths, science, humanities

girls are good (well decent) at textiles too.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: minilunchbox on June 09, 2010, 08:26:38 pm
gurlz r only gud 4 cooking n cleaningz bro.. dem womenz are dum as
not quite sure how to respond to this...just in case ur all just joking...
girls are generally better at psychology and biology, men at chemistry and physics. Maybe not for VCE i dont know but in general.

besides theres is evidence that girls were dominant in some cultures (only girls educated/vote etc)

by the way, im a man, and not a feminist :)

feminist = equality of sexes and not some horrid thing meaning WOO GIRL POWER REVERSE SEXISM.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 09, 2010, 08:27:15 pm
i hate you all

We respect your opinion lol JK youre a girl

jest kidding

Well played.

Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: cdjm92 on June 09, 2010, 08:27:58 pm
i hate you all

lol, think they need to do a little psych study :) plenty about gender differences in the text book
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: cdjm92 on June 09, 2010, 08:29:12 pm
gurlz r only gud 4 cooking n cleaningz bro.. dem womenz are dum as
not quite sure how to respond to this...just in case ur all just joking...
girls are generally better at psychology and biology, men at chemistry and physics. Maybe not for VCE i dont know but in general.

besides theres is evidence that girls were dominant in some cultures (only girls educated/vote etc)

by the way, im a man, and not a feminist :)

feminist = equality of sexes and not some horrid thing meaning WOO GIRL POWER REVERSE SEXISM.

well its supposed to, but these days girls run around using the term for girl power,
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 09, 2010, 08:29:47 pm
Why do girls try and play sport? Lol at the conversion of this thread from exam discussion to sexism... i like it
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 08:30:07 pm
well if it was for equality, surely it would be called..... equality?  rather than *feminism*
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 08:30:24 pm
Why did God put men on earth?


Because a vibrator can't mow the lawn.

Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: cdjm92 on June 09, 2010, 08:31:11 pm
Why do girls try and play sport? Lol at the conversion of this thread from exam discussion to sexism... i like it

the average girl would woop my ass in just about any sport, if they enjoy it why not?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: cdjm92 on June 09, 2010, 08:31:39 pm
well if it was for equality, surely it would be called..... equality?  rather than *feminism*

exactly
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 08:32:00 pm
How did this topic get into the Exam discussion lol
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 08:33:18 pm
How did this topic get into the Exam discussion lol

because consciousness is like a stream, constantly changing

(ew)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 08:33:43 pm
LMAO rudaid

i laughed out loud.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 09, 2010, 08:33:50 pm
Brb, getting popcorn... next topic - Schoolies 2010!
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 09, 2010, 08:34:31 pm
How did this topic get into the Exam discussion lol

because consciousness is like a stream, constantly changing

(ew)

Oh, he went there.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 08:34:44 pm
How did this topic get into the Exam discussion lol

because consciousness is like a stream, constantly changing

(ew)

LOLL! no comment
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 08:36:46 pm
Quote
Oh, he went there.

LOL, that reminds me of 'Oh no you di'int' *snaps fingers across body*

soooooo  much stuff i studied for wasnt on there i'm mad.
grr
email vcaa rofl
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 08:37:29 pm
How did this topic get into the Exam discussion lol

because consciousness is like a stream, constantly changing

(ew)

LOLL! no comment
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: cdjm92 on June 09, 2010, 08:38:03 pm
How did this topic get into the Exam discussion lol

because consciousness is like a stream, constantly changing

(ew)

lol
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 08:39:14 pm
Quote
Oh, he went there.

LOL, that reminds me of 'Oh no you di'int' *snaps fingers across body*

soooooo  much stuff i studied for wasnt on there i'm mad.
grr
email vcaa rofl

I know!
Especially sleep.
I had a gut feeling that the GAS will definitely be on there so the yesterday I went through all the stages of GAS. And I still got that 'role of sympathetic NS in 3rd stage of GAS' wrong. So pissed.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 09, 2010, 08:39:36 pm
Quote
Oh, he went there.

LOL, that reminds me of 'Oh no you di'int' *snaps fingers across body*

soooooo  much stuff i studied for wasnt on there i'm mad.
grr
email vcaa rofl

You said it sister. .
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 08:40:06 pm
No shit
and the thing i least studied for was all the participant ethical stuff and i felt like soo much (more than other years) there was more questions on it.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: cdjm92 on June 09, 2010, 08:40:57 pm
Quote
Oh, he went there.

LOL, that reminds me of 'Oh no you di'int' *snaps fingers across body*

soooooo  much stuff i studied for wasnt on there i'm mad.
grr
email vcaa rofl

ide love to email/phone them too have a good wine about that :)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 09, 2010, 08:42:27 pm
Quote
Oh, he went there.

LOL, that reminds me of 'Oh no you di'int' *snaps fingers across body*

soooooo  much stuff i studied for wasnt on there i'm mad.
grr
email vcaa rofl

ide love to email/phone them too have a good wine about that :)

It would be fun to fill their inbox with complaints :P
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: minilunchbox on June 09, 2010, 08:43:04 pm
No shit
and the thing i least studied for was all the participant ethical stuff and i felt like soo much (more than other years) there was more questions on it.

The last AOS1 question (Karen picking up the hot glass) was total year 11 stuff. Awesome.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 08:44:03 pm
We're all well and truly over this exam.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 08:45:06 pm
i emailed them last year hahaha
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 09, 2010, 08:46:57 pm
No shit
and the thing i least studied for was all the participant ethical stuff and i felt like soo much (more than other years) there was more questions on it.

The last AOS1 question (Karen picking up the hot glass) was total year 11 stuff. Awesome.

Excuse me, dont post things unrelated to the topic. We are discussing women and their role in society.

jk, yeah - i couldnt remember the key terms for that question either :(
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 08:47:50 pm
We're all well and truly over this exam.
Yesssss D:
When do answers get released?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 08:48:00 pm
yeah i was glad the sensory and motor neuron thing was a mc, because then i used the knowledge that i got from the mc in the short answer... that's called in-exam studying.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 08:54:43 pm
yeah i was glad the sensory and motor neuron thing was a mc, because then i used the knowledge that i got from the mc in the short answer... that's called in-exam studying.

Its actually called Legendary Methodical Bullshitting.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 08:57:13 pm
Quote
Its actually called Legendary Methodical Bullshitting.

Is that the technical term orrr?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: iNerd on June 09, 2010, 08:58:34 pm
Quote
Its actually called Legendary Methodical Bullshitting.

Is that the technical term orrr?
lol are you being serious orrr?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 09, 2010, 08:58:45 pm
Quote
Its actually called Legendary Methodical Bullshitting.

Is that the technical term orrr?

...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 09:00:37 pm
becc youre such a retard.

































u know how i know youre raging?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 09, 2010, 09:02:26 pm
Making my way downtown
Walking fast
Faces passed
And I'm home bound
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 09:05:27 pm
You're all fucking insane for not understanding sarcasm

Such a  men thing to do
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 09, 2010, 09:05:41 pm
Love that song :]
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 09:05:51 pm
how?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 09:07:48 pm
hey becc you didnt read the last part of my last post.

Or perhaps you did read it and in doing so justified the first part? Now I know ive lost you here. But dont worry because now youre on a horse. Picture it.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 09:10:22 pm
Visionz, you're confusing me with your weird lingo.

I dont get what the last part meant
'raging' WTF
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 09, 2010, 09:14:36 pm
Staring blankly ahead
Just making my way
Making my way
Through the crowd

And I need you
And I miss you
And now I wonder....
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 09:17:54 pm
white chicks
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 09, 2010, 09:19:30 pm
white chicks

haha, i love that scene. the big black guy.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 09:22:10 pm

haha, i love that scene. the big black guy.

you would.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 09, 2010, 09:22:36 pm
Erm, isn't gold a dude?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 09:25:19 pm
Erm, isn't gold a dude?

Youve obviously never googled homoerotica.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 09, 2010, 09:26:43 pm
Erm, isn't gold a dude?

I think/hope so. Mm, big black.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 10:01:14 pm
What did people get for the cinema MC question?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: minilunchbox on June 09, 2010, 10:03:56 pm
What did people get for the cinema MC question?

Takes time for the photonsensitive pigments in rods and cones to adapt.

Can't remember the other options, but I know that was another question I spent too long mulling over.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: psych93 on June 09, 2010, 10:04:37 pm
i said the the one about cones and rods adapting
random question: what do you guys think the max number of wrong questions would be in order to still obtain an A+ on that exam?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: matt123 on June 09, 2010, 10:05:32 pm
86% minimum
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 10:05:38 pm
What did people get for the cinema MC question?

Takes time for the photonsensitive pigments in rods and cones to adapt.

Can't remember the other options, but I know that was another question I spent too long mulling over.

Oh dayumm I cant remember exactly what I picked, I'm pretty sure I put that answer. So fingers crossed!
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 09, 2010, 10:07:06 pm
Hmm, I personally thought the exam was easier than last year, I'm assuming the cut off will be higher than last years 87%?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 10:07:45 pm
What did people get for the cinema MC question?

Takes time for the photonsensitive pigments in rods and cones to adapt.

Can't remember the other options, but I know that was another question I spent too long mulling over.

Haha. I wasnt sure whether it was because the 'cones were unable to operate in these circumstances' or A - which you chose. With 5 mins left I changed my answer to A.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: minilunchbox on June 09, 2010, 10:09:47 pm
What did people get for the cinema MC question?

Takes time for the photonsensitive pigments in rods and cones to adapt.

Can't remember the other options, but I know that was another question I spent too long mulling over.

Haha. I wasnt sure whether it was because the 'cones were unable to operate in these circumstances' or A - which you chose. With 5 mins left I changed my answer to A.

If cones were unable to operate in these circumstances then you would be unable to perceive colour and that rarely happens especially walking into a cinema.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 09, 2010, 10:13:52 pm
What did people get for the cinema MC question?

Takes time for the photonsensitive pigments in rods and cones to adapt.

Can't remember the other options, but I know that was another question I spent too long mulling over.

Haha. I wasnt sure whether it was because the 'cones were unable to operate in these circumstances' or A - which you chose. With 5 mins left I changed my answer to A.

If cones were unable to operate in these circumstances then you would be unable to perceive colour and that rarely happens especially walking into a cinema.

Yeah so I picked the same as you.

I figured that when you walk into a dark room, eventually you CAN see a bit, your rods kick into gear.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Caspar on June 09, 2010, 10:17:29 pm
gurlz r only gud 4 cooking n cleaningz bro.. dem womenz are dum as
not quite sure how to respond to this...just in case ur all just joking...
girls are generally better at psychology and biology, men at chemistry and physics. Maybe not for VCE i dont know but in general.

besides theres is evidence that girls were dominant in some cultures (only girls educated/vote etc)

by the way, im a man, and not a feminist :)

http://chartsbin.com/view/deb
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sex_ratio_total_population_per_country_smooth.png
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: alannah on June 09, 2010, 10:30:36 pm
What did people get for the cinema MC question?

Takes time for the photonsensitive pigments in rods and cones to adapt.

Can't remember the other options, but I know that was another question I spent too long mulling over.

Haha. I wasnt sure whether it was because the 'cones were unable to operate in these circumstances' or A - which you chose. With 5 mins left I changed my answer to A.

If cones were unable to operate in these circumstances then you would be unable to perceive colour and that rarely happens especially walking into a cinema.

Yeah so I picked the same as you.

I figured that when you walk into a dark room, eventually you CAN see a bit, your rods kick into gear.
ditto
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 09, 2010, 10:33:20 pm
What did people get for the cinema MC question?

Takes time for the photonsensitive pigments in rods and cones to adapt.

Can't remember the other options, but I know that was another question I spent too long mulling over.

I picked that but we never really learnt about dark adaption stuff...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: psych93 on June 09, 2010, 11:05:02 pm
we never really learnt about split-brain patients and having impaired memory either
hence, why they should be taken off :)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: minilunchbox on June 09, 2010, 11:07:22 pm
we never really learnt about split-brain patients and having impaired memory either
hence, why they should be taken off :)

I know right. This isn't even mentioned in any text books (well none so far).
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: extcar on June 09, 2010, 11:11:43 pm
wtf what was the MC on the cones and rods in the cinemas, i dont remember that
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Slumdawg on June 09, 2010, 11:25:05 pm
was it just me or was the ames room and the film director thing weird. Does a camera at a peephole eliminated binocular cues..???
Was the detail of the which and the whole storyline necessary I mean come on that was just a waste of ink. you could tell the exam writers were bored and thought that would be funny to put that in.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 11:30:52 pm
was it just me or was the ames room and the film director thing weird. Does a camera at a peephole eliminated binocular cues..???
Was the detail of the which and the whole storyline necessary I mean come on that was just a waste of ink. you could tell the exam writers were bored and thought that would be funny to put that in.
exactly what ive been thinking. like they were writing a short story
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: coolhat on June 09, 2010, 11:33:37 pm
was it just me or was the ames room and the film director thing weird. Does a camera at a peephole eliminated binocular cues..???
Was the detail of the which and the whole storyline necessary I mean come on that was just a waste of ink. you could tell the exam writers were bored and thought that would be funny to put that in.

im pretty sure the location of the camera did not eliminate binocular depth cues. this is bcoz we view the camera film with both eyes-so binocular...i wrote that the camera location at the peephole ensured that our visual angle was the same for both corners, so we perceived the room as a rectangle.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 09, 2010, 11:36:19 pm
was it just me or was the ames room and the film director thing weird. Does a camera at a peephole eliminated binocular cues..???
Was the detail of the which and the whole storyline necessary I mean come on that was just a waste of ink. you could tell the exam writers were bored and thought that would be funny to put that in.
i think i wrote what i would have, if the camera wasnt mentioned. i the camera was just there to throw people of

im pretty sure the location of the camera did not eliminate binocular depth cues. this is bcoz we view the camera film with both eyes-so binocular...i wrote that the camera location at the peephole ensured that our visual angle was the same for both corners, so we perceived the room as a rectangle.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: psych93 on June 09, 2010, 11:41:22 pm
frankly I agree that examinors were secretly taking the piss
they must aim to purpose torture us students
last time I checked wewere being tested on OUR KNOWLEDGE of the content
not how well we can read between the lines and propose hypotheses for differnt explanations of the content in various contexts
*sighs* fml
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: minilunchbox on June 09, 2010, 11:49:37 pm
But when you're watching a tv, there's no difference in your perception of what is on the screen whether you use both eyes or one eye. What you see on a tv is pretty much a series of images/frames which would be the same as a bunch of pictures that use pictorial depth cues to convey depth.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: rudaid on June 10, 2010, 09:14:00 am
yeah i wasn't sure, would the Ames room even work through a lens?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 10, 2010, 01:43:51 pm
yeah i wasn't sure, would the Ames room even work through a lens?

Yeah it would because it can only be monocularly viewed - you wouldn't even need a peephole! Only the correct positioning.

It's like those pictures of the people "pushing" the leaning tower of pisa over...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 10, 2010, 01:48:37 pm
I got psych exam, in the middle of scanning it atm
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 10, 2010, 02:31:53 pm
I got psych exam, in the middle of scanning it atm
thanks now we can go over the answers in more detail
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 10, 2010, 02:38:39 pm
I got psych exam, in the middle of scanning it atm
thanks now we can go over the answers in more detail

Oh just so everyone know, I posted the link on Exam upload forum
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 10, 2010, 02:48:14 pm
i got
c
a
c
d
d
d
a
a
d
d
c
c
c
d
a
c
a
d
c
b(first b lol)
b
a
d
a
c
d
c
b
c
a
b
b
d
a
b
b
d
c
c
b(not that i remember doing this question :/)
a
a
c
a

what did you guys get?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 10, 2010, 02:50:00 pm
The whole 3D TV phenomena is pretty much the camera version of Retinal Disparity. Standard TV is basically monocular.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 10, 2010, 03:47:13 pm
noice, cheers for exam link dawg
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: coolhat on June 10, 2010, 04:54:26 pm
i got
q1 c
q2 a
q3 d
q4....

im pretty sure that q3 is C not D!
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: jinny1 on June 10, 2010, 04:59:42 pm
Hey guys what is the answer for the visual perception question where it asked you which occipital lobes would process image from the right visual field.

i said the left lobe only but some of my friends tell me its both lobes...please help me... T.T
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 10, 2010, 05:00:38 pm
Hey guys what is the answer for the visual perception question where it asked you which occipital lobes would process image from the right visual field.

i said the left lobe only but some of my friends tell me its both lobes...please help me... T.T

its both :( sorry
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: jinny1 on June 10, 2010, 05:01:31 pm
damn////

why is that so??? and where did we learn that?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 10, 2010, 05:02:02 pm
Right visual field > left side of the retina > Left occipital lobe

Right EYE > both occipital lobes
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: coolhat on June 10, 2010, 05:02:08 pm
Question 3
Visual images received in the left visual field are processed in the
A. occipital lobe of the left and right hemispheres.
B. temporal lobe of the right hemisphere only.
C. occipital lobe of the right hemisphere only.
D. occipital lobe of the left hemisphere only


isnt the answer C??
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 10, 2010, 05:03:13 pm
damn////

why is that so??? and where did we learn that?

I dont know and i dont know haha. I found it out when correcting a past exam, so luckily that stuck.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: coolhat on June 10, 2010, 05:03:33 pm
Question 18
Alzheimer's disease causes serious disruption to memory and cognitive abilities.
A researcher wanted to use fMRI technology to investigate which areas of brain function are impaired in patients
with advanced Alzheimer's disease.
This research may be seen as unethical if
A. the patient's personal details remain confidential.
B. the patient becomes unwell during the experiment.
C. the researcher ends the experiment because the patient is distressed
D. the researcher proceeds on the basis of obtaining verbal consent from the patient.

is the answer d?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 10, 2010, 05:05:26 pm
Question 18
Alzheimer's disease causes serious disruption to memory and cognitive abilities.
A researcher wanted to use fMRI technology to investigate which areas of brain function are impaired in patients
with advanced Alzheimer's disease.
This research may be seen as unethical if
A. the patient's personal details remain confidential.
B. the patient becomes unwell during the experiment.
C. the researcher ends the experiment because the patient is distressed
D. the researcher proceeds on the basis of obtaining verbal consent from the patient.

is the answer d?

I believe so, i went with B for some reason
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 10, 2010, 05:11:26 pm
D
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: minilunchbox on June 10, 2010, 05:12:05 pm
Right visual field > left side of the retina > Left occipital lobe

Right EYE > both occipital lobes

This, it was only the left occipital lobe. I re-read this question heaps just to make sure. I even drew a dodgy diagram next to it.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 10, 2010, 05:12:19 pm
D

your mums a D
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: jinny1 on June 10, 2010, 05:12:25 pm
Right visual field > left side of the retina > Left occipital lobe

Right EYE > both occipital lobes

yea but the question asked the left Visual field
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: jinny1 on June 10, 2010, 05:13:03 pm
damn////

why is that so??? and where did we learn that?

I dont know and i dont know haha. I found it out when correcting a past exam, so luckily that stuck.

do you know which past exam this was in?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: coolhat on June 10, 2010, 05:14:28 pm
 
Right visual field > left side of the retina > Left occipital lobe

Right EYE > both occipital lobes

yea but the question asked the left Visual field

exactly my point-thanks
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 10, 2010, 05:15:49 pm
Question 18
Alzheimer's disease causes serious disruption to memory and cognitive abilities.
A researcher wanted to use fMRI technology to investigate which areas of brain function are impaired in patients
with advanced Alzheimer's disease.
This research may be seen as unethical if
A. the patient's personal details remain confidential.
B. the patient becomes unwell during the experiment.
C. the researcher ends the experiment because the patient is distressed
D. the researcher proceeds on the basis of obtaining verbal consent from the patient.

is the answer d?

I believe so, i went with B for some reason

Here as well. Dont remember whether I've changed it or not .. It's D because it should be written consent right? :(
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: minilunchbox on June 10, 2010, 05:16:39 pm
Right visual field > left side of the retina > Left occipital lobe

Right EYE > both occipital lobes

yea but the question asked the left Visual field

exactly my point-thanks

Haha, whoops. Then it's the right occipital lobe.

It's definitely not both. It's only both if it was processed in one eye (which was what a past exam question was).
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 10, 2010, 05:17:27 pm
i wrote b but pretty sure the answers d
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 10, 2010, 05:17:47 pm
damn////

why is that so??? and where did we learn that?

I dont know and i dont know haha. I found it out when correcting a past exam, so luckily that stuck.

do you know which past exam this was in?



Hm, i think i may be wrong haha. Its a slightly different question, so not sure. 2007 exam, question 4
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: jinny1 on June 10, 2010, 05:23:28 pm
thanks guys i shall tell my friends that they picked the wrong answer :)

the best feeling ever ...lol
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 10, 2010, 05:24:52 pm
Question 3
Visual images received in the left visual field are processed in the
A. occipital lobe of the left and right hemispheres.
B. temporal lobe of the right hemisphere only.
C. occipital lobe of the right hemisphere only.
D. occipital lobe of the left hemisphere only
isnt the answer C??
oops my bad, i actually did get c on the actual exam. must have read the question wrong when he uploaded it. thanks
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 10, 2010, 05:25:52 pm
thanks guys i shall tell my friends that they picked the wrong answer :)

the best feeling ever ...lol

Yeah sorry for telling you that you were wrong, guess i was pretty sure of myself. :P Now im angry haha
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 10, 2010, 05:26:05 pm
IT ASKED FOR FIELD?!?!
OH FMLFMLFML
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: flametree on June 10, 2010, 05:26:44 pm
i spelt EOG 'electroculargram'... marks off?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 10, 2010, 05:26:56 pm
OH WAIT, i did write c
whoops lol
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: littlebecc on June 10, 2010, 05:27:12 pm
nah flametree- you'll be right :D
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: coolhat on June 10, 2010, 05:27:31 pm
sorry but i cant help my self-owned
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 10, 2010, 05:28:06 pm
i spelt EOG 'electroculargram'... marks off?

Yup im sure there will be worse spelling that that accepted :)

and littlebec i feel your pain
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 10, 2010, 05:28:20 pm
can someone else please post their answers so i can compare mine with someones
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 10, 2010, 05:30:01 pm
i spelt EOG 'electroculargram'... marks off?
i think i spelt it like that. how is it spelt? i thought there was more chance of of getting a mark for trying to spell it properly than just writing "eog"
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 10, 2010, 05:30:51 pm
i spelt EOG 'electroculargram'... marks off?
i think i spelt it like that. how is it spelt? i thought there was more chance of of getting a mark for trying to spell it properly than just writing "eog"

electro-oculogram i think?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: minilunchbox on June 10, 2010, 05:31:16 pm
i spelt EOG 'electroculargram'... marks off?
i think i spelt it like that. how is it spelt? i thought there was more chance of of getting a mark for trying to spell it properly than just writing "eog"

I wrote electrooculogram and freaked out because it didn't even look like a word.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: jinny1 on June 10, 2010, 05:36:42 pm
Question 7
A researcher was interested in the possible link between brain tumours and depression in elderly patients. She
conducted an intensive study of six individual patients in a hospital using diagnostic tests, patients'interviews,
and examination of the patients'medical records.
One limitation of this method for her research is that
A. the research is not controlled for potential confounding variables.
B. the reliance on patients'reports will not produce very detailed information.
C. the patients cannot be randomly allocated to the control and experimental groups.
D. it is too easy to generalise the results of this type of research.

answer is A right?

Question 11
Which of the following is true of the autonomic nervous system (ANS)?
A. The ANS is a vital part of the central nervous system (CNS).
B. It is impossible to consciously influence the functioning of the ANS.
C. The ANS ensures that the constantly changing energy requirements of the body are met.
D. The ANS relays messages between the CNS and the voluntary muscles that control our internal organs
and glands.

answer C?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: coolhat on June 10, 2010, 05:38:30 pm
Question 7
A researcher was interested in the possible link between brain tumours and depression in elderly patients. She
conducted an intensive study of six individual patients in a hospital using diagnostic tests, patients'interviews,
and examination of the patients'medical records.
One limitation of this method for her research is that
A. the research is not controlled for potential confounding variables.
B. the reliance on patients'reports will not produce very detailed information.
C. the patients cannot be randomly allocated to the control and experimental groups.
D. it is too easy to generalise the results of this type of research.

answer is A right?

Question 11
Which of the following is true of the autonomic nervous system (ANS)?
A. The ANS is a vital part of the central nervous system (CNS).
B. It is impossible to consciously influence the functioning of the ANS.
C. The ANS ensures that the constantly changing energy requirements of the body are met.
D. The ANS relays messages between the CNS and the voluntary muscles that control our internal organs
and glands.

answer C?

wd-yeh it is
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: jinny1 on June 10, 2010, 05:38:48 pm
Question 16
Stuart was accused of stealing money from his employer. He knew he was innocent of the crime, so he volunteered
to take a polygraph test. Stuart failed the test even after it was repeated.
Stuart may have failed the test because
A. he may have felt very relaxed and produced low physiological arousal during both the control and relevant
questions.
B. he may have unintentionally bitten his tongue and induced high physiological responses to the control
questions.
C. the polygraph measures physiological arousal which can be due to emotions other than guilt.
D. the polygraph cannot accurately measure blood pressure and heart rate.

i picked C for this one but i felt B and A could be possible if it weren't for the fact that they repeated the test
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 10, 2010, 05:40:06 pm
Question 7
A researcher was interested in the possible link between brain tumours and depression in elderly patients. She
conducted an intensive study of six individual patients in a hospital using diagnostic tests, patients'interviews,
and examination of the patients'medical records.
One limitation of this method for her research is that
A. the research is not controlled for potential confounding variables.
B. the reliance on patients'reports will not produce very detailed information.
C. the patients cannot be randomly allocated to the control and experimental groups.
D. it is too easy to generalise the results of this type of research.

answer is A right?

Question 11
Which of the following is true of the autonomic nervous system (ANS)?
A. The ANS is a vital part of the central nervous system (CNS).
B. It is impossible to consciously influence the functioning of the ANS.
C. The ANS ensures that the constantly changing energy requirements of the body are met.
D. The ANS relays messages between the CNS and the voluntary muscles that control our internal organs
and glands.

answer C?
thats what i got but the first one i only chose A because i didnt think it was the others
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 10, 2010, 05:40:14 pm
Question 16
Stuart was accused of stealing money from his employer. He knew he was innocent of the crime, so he volunteered
to take a polygraph test. Stuart failed the test even after it was repeated.
Stuart may have failed the test because
A. he may have felt very relaxed and produced low physiological arousal during both the control and relevant
questions.
B. he may have unintentionally bitten his tongue and induced high physiological responses to the control
questions.
C. the polygraph measures physiological arousal which can be due to emotions other than guilt.
D. the polygraph cannot accurately measure blood pressure and heart rate.

i picked C for this one but i felt B and A could be possible if it weren't for the fact that they repeated the test

I picked C, and the other 2 answers in the questions prior ;-)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: coolhat on June 10, 2010, 05:40:55 pm
Question 16
Stuart was accused of stealing money from his employer. He knew he was innocent of the crime, so he volunteered
to take a polygraph test. Stuart failed the test even after it was repeated.
Stuart may have failed the test because
A. he may have felt very relaxed and produced low physiological arousal during both the control and relevant
questions.
B. he may have unintentionally bitten his tongue and induced high physiological responses to the control
questions.
C. the polygraph measures physiological arousal which can be due to emotions other than guilt.
D. the polygraph cannot accurately measure blood pressure and heart rate.

i picked C for this one but i felt B and A could be possible if it weren't for the fact that they repeated the test

again this should be correct-wd
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: jinny1 on June 10, 2010, 05:41:03 pm
SORRY FOR QUESTION SPAM..im just freaking out...

Question 19
Perception refers to the process by which
A. sense organs transmit information to the brain for initial processing.
B. perception receptors gather information from the environment.
C. the brain organises and interprets sensation.
D. the brain selects which stimuli to respond to.

answer "c"?

Question 20
One key difference between visual sensation and visual perception is that
A. visual perception can be consciously controlled while visual sensation cannot.
B. visual perception involves a cognitive process while visual sensation does not.
C. visual perception can only occur when visual sensation is completed'
D. the process of selection only occurs during visual sensation

Answer B?

thanks for your clarifications
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 10, 2010, 05:41:13 pm
Question 16
Stuart was accused of stealing money from his employer. He knew he was innocent of the crime, so he volunteered
to take a polygraph test. Stuart failed the test even after it was repeated.
Stuart may have failed the test because
A. he may have felt very relaxed and produced low physiological arousal during both the control and relevant
questions.
B. he may have unintentionally bitten his tongue and induced high physiological responses to the control
questions.
C. the polygraph measures physiological arousal which can be due to emotions other than guilt.
D. the polygraph cannot accurately measure blood pressure and heart rate.

i picked C for this one but i felt B and A could be possible if it weren't for the fact that they repeated the test
defs c for this one
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 10, 2010, 05:41:21 pm
Question 16
Stuart was accused of stealing money from his employer. He knew he was innocent of the crime, so he volunteered
to take a polygraph test. Stuart failed the test even after it was repeated.
Stuart may have failed the test because
A. he may have felt very relaxed and produced low physiological arousal during both the control and relevant
questions.
B. he may have unintentionally bitten his tongue and induced high physiological responses to the control
questions.
C. the polygraph measures physiological arousal which can be due to emotions other than guilt.
D. the polygraph cannot accurately measure blood pressure and heart rate.

i picked C for this one but i felt B and A could be possible if it weren't for the fact that they repeated the test

I picked A because I totally missed C, don't know how I could have possible skip that ><
but your answer is right I think. Because he had to repeat the test, so he must have been a little worried or shocked for failing the test after the first time isn't that true.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 10, 2010, 05:42:12 pm
SORRY FOR QUESTION SPAM..im just freaking out...

Question 19
Perception refers to the process by which
A. sense organs transmit information to the brain for initial processing.
B. perception receptors gather information from the environment.
C. the brain organises and interprets sensation.
D. the brain selects which stimuli to respond to.

answer "c"?

Question 20
One key difference between visual sensation and visual perception is that
A. visual perception can be consciously controlled while visual sensation cannot.
B. visual perception involves a cognitive process while visual sensation does not.
C. visual perception can only occur when visual sensation is completed'
D. the process of selection only occurs during visual sensation

Answer B?

thanks for your clarifications
thats what i got
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 10, 2010, 05:45:02 pm
SORRY FOR QUESTION SPAM..im just freaking out...

Question 19
Perception refers to the process by which
A. sense organs transmit information to the brain for initial processing.
B. perception receptors gather information from the environment.
C. the brain organises and interprets sensation.
D. the brain selects which stimuli to respond to.

answer "c"?

Question 20
One key difference between visual sensation and visual perception is that
A. visual perception can be consciously controlled while visual sensation cannot.
B. visual perception involves a cognitive process while visual sensation does not.
C. visual perception can only occur when visual sensation is completed'
D. the process of selection only occurs during visual sensation

Answer B?

thanks for your clarifications

I got c for 19 and i THINK i picked c for 20 :S
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 10, 2010, 05:46:30 pm
I got:

19) c

20) b
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 10, 2010, 05:47:58 pm
Question 7
A researcher was interested in the possible link between brain tumours and depression in elderly patients. She
conducted an intensive study of six individual patients in a hospital using diagnostic tests, patients'interviews,
and examination of the patients'medical records.
One limitation of this method for her research is that
A. the research is not controlled for potential confounding variables.
B. the reliance on patients'reports will not produce very detailed information.
C. the patients cannot be randomly allocated to the control and experimental groups.
D. it is too easy to generalise the results of this type of research.

answer is A right?

Question 11
Which of the following is true of the autonomic nervous system (ANS)?
A. The ANS is a vital part of the central nervous system (CNS).
B. It is impossible to consciously influence the functioning of the ANS.
C. The ANS ensures that the constantly changing energy requirements of the body are met.
D. The ANS relays messages between the CNS and the voluntary muscles that control our internal organs
and glands.

answer C?

I did D for the first question... not sure :S
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 10, 2010, 05:49:43 pm
Question 7
A researcher was interested in the possible link between brain tumours and depression in elderly patients. She
conducted an intensive study of six individual patients in a hospital using diagnostic tests, patients'interviews,
and examination of the patients'medical records.
One limitation of this method for her research is that
A. the research is not controlled for potential confounding variables.
B. the reliance on patients'reports will not produce very detailed information.
C. the patients cannot be randomly allocated to the control and experimental groups.
D. it is too easy to generalise the results of this type of research.

answer is A right?

Question 11
Which of the following is true of the autonomic nervous system (ANS)?
A. The ANS is a vital part of the central nervous system (CNS).
B. It is impossible to consciously influence the functioning of the ANS.
C. The ANS ensures that the constantly changing energy requirements of the body are met.
D. The ANS relays messages between the CNS and the voluntary muscles that control our internal organs
and glands.

answer C?

I did D for the first question... not sure :S

Its the opposite i think, case studies are difficult to generalise
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: babygurl on June 10, 2010, 05:50:02 pm
I got:

7) a

11) c
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 10, 2010, 05:50:48 pm
gold i think you are wrong for 20. I remember seeing somewhere that sensation ans perception are interelated and overlap. eg: before transmision, selection has already occured as we have chosen to focus on some lines angles and edges and not others
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 10, 2010, 05:51:11 pm
Question 7
A researcher was interested in the possible link between brain tumours and depression in elderly patients. She
conducted an intensive study of six individual patients in a hospital using diagnostic tests, patients'interviews,
and examination of the patients'medical records.
One limitation of this method for her research is that
A. the research is not controlled for potential confounding variables.
B. the reliance on patients'reports will not produce very detailed information.
C. the patients cannot be randomly allocated to the control and experimental groups.
D. it is too easy to generalise the results of this type of research.

answer is A right?

Question 11
Which of the following is true of the autonomic nervous system (ANS)?
A. The ANS is a vital part of the central nervous system (CNS).
B. It is impossible to consciously influence the functioning of the ANS.
C. The ANS ensures that the constantly changing energy requirements of the body are met.
D. The ANS relays messages between the CNS and the voluntary muscles that control our internal organs
and glands.

answer C?

I did D for the first question... not sure :S

Its the opposite i think, case studies are difficult to generalise

OMG i see your point.... arghhh
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: jinny1 on June 10, 2010, 05:51:36 pm
Explain the role of Tasha's sympathetic nervous system in stage 3 of the GAS.

is it ok if you said that the sympathertic system will continue to be active and increase heartrate etc.... compared to in a state of homeostatis but at the expense of health and bodily resources

Question 5
Tasha is a doctor in a busy general practice. Tasha returned to work after six months maternity leave to avery
busy flu season that required working twelve-hour dajs to cope with the extra patient load. As well as being
very busy at work, Tasha missed her baby son. After six weeks of this workload she developed a severe tension
headache by the end of almost every working day. After a few days, Tasha's headaches went away although she
was still working long hours in the busy surgery. When she caught the flu herself, Tasha had to take a week off
work. After recovering and being back at work for a few days, Tasha was unable to get up to go to work one
morning. When she consulted her own doctor, she was diagnosed as being extremely stressed and physically
drained.
^. Which stage of the General Adaptation Syndrome (GAS) was Tasha most likely in when she contracted
the flu?
l

i still think its in Exhaustion,...dunnno why
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 10, 2010, 05:51:56 pm
gold i think you are wrong for 20. I remember seeing somewhere that sensation ans perception are interelated and overlap. eg: before transmision, selection has already occured as we have chosen to focus on some lines angles and edges and not others

Yeah, you guys are riight :( Oh well, another wrong.. heh
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 10, 2010, 05:52:46 pm
I got:

7) a

11) c

Same
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: claregorton on June 10, 2010, 05:53:28 pm
Question 7
A researcher was interested in the possible link between brain tumours and depression in elderly patients. She
conducted an intensive study of six individual patients in a hospital using diagnostic tests, patients'interviews,
and examination of the patients'medical records.
One limitation of this method for her research is that
A. the research is not controlled for potential confounding variables.
B. the reliance on patients'reports will not produce very detailed information.
C. the patients cannot be randomly allocated to the control and experimental groups.
D. it is too easy to generalise the results of this type of research.

answer is A right?

Question 11
Which of the following is true of the autonomic nervous system (ANS)?
A. The ANS is a vital part of the central nervous system (CNS).
B. It is impossible to consciously influence the functioning of the ANS.
C. The ANS ensures that the constantly changing energy requirements of the body are met.
D. The ANS relays messages between the CNS and the voluntary muscles that control our internal organs
and glands.

answer C?

I did D for the first question... not sure :S

Its the opposite i think, case studies are difficult to generalise

i said C for 7, erghhhh that one confused me, I thought that the control group was people without depression, and experimental with depression.... which you can't really control? No idea.
11 I said C, changed it last minute, coz at first I said D, then I remembered parasympathetic is in the ANS...hmm.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 10, 2010, 05:53:41 pm
gold i think you are wrong for 20. I remember seeing somewhere that sensation ans perception are interelated and overlap. eg: before transmision, selection has already occured as we have chosen to focus on some lines angles and edges and not others

Yeah... it's all an interrelated process but we separate them in order to study it. But honestly, I thought VCE psych didn't distinguish between perception and sensation - visual perception is the whole visual process ???
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: jinny1 on June 10, 2010, 05:54:56 pm
i dont think Case Studies have control/experimental groups or am i wrong..
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: psych93 on June 10, 2010, 05:55:08 pm
Does anyone have a general idea of the answers that would be required for the short answer questions?
Like from a teacher or something ?
I don't think I got full marks for the Ames Room question ....
:(
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: gold104 on June 10, 2010, 05:55:12 pm
gold i think you are wrong for 20. I remember seeing somewhere that sensation ans perception are interelated and overlap. eg: before transmision, selection has already occured as we have chosen to focus on some lines angles and edges and not others

Yeah... it's all an interrelated process but we separate them in order to study it. But honestly, I thought VCE psych didn't distinguish between perception and sensation - visual perception is the whole visual process ???

Yeah they pushed the coarse boundaries in a few questions
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 10, 2010, 05:56:34 pm
Explain the role of Tasha's sympathetic nervous system in stage 3 of the GAS.

is it ok if you said that the sympathertic system will continue to be active and increase heartrate etc.... compared to in a state of homeostatis but at the expense of health and bodily resources

Question 5
Tasha is a doctor in a busy general practice. Tasha returned to work after six months maternity leave to avery
busy flu season that required working twelve-hour dajs to cope with the extra patient load. As well as being
very busy at work, Tasha missed her baby son. After six weeks of this workload she developed a severe tension
headache by the end of almost every working day. After a few days, Tasha's headaches went away although she
was still working long hours in the busy surgery. When she caught the flu herself, Tasha had to take a week off
work. After recovering and being back at work for a few days, Tasha was unable to get up to go to work one
morning. When she consulted her own doctor, she was diagnosed as being extremely stressed and physically
drained.
^. Which stage of the General Adaptation Syndrome (GAS) was Tasha most likely in when she contracted
the flu?
l

i still think its in Exhaustion,...dunnno why

I think the stage 1 was when she got the headaches and she was resisting these in stage 2, which was when she got the headache. They could potentially mark both correct though.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: jinny1 on June 10, 2010, 05:59:00 pm


I think the stage 1 was when she got the headaches and she was resisting these in stage 2, which was when she got the headache. They could potentially mark both correct though.

if she wasnt in exhaustion then when she came back to work after a few days she would have been able to get up and go to work...but i think they'll accept both
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: 8039 on June 10, 2010, 05:59:26 pm
I was doing really well on both multiple choice, but was too relaxed with my time. Ended up having 5 mins left to answer the entire last 2 pages.

Didn't properly answer the 4 mark hot coffee question and the one about the ASC sick guy.

Also, for the experimenter having to ask someone to experiment on the young boy, I forgot the organization and went with "the child's parent or guardian" :(
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: jinny1 on June 10, 2010, 11:43:11 pm
The researcher observes Roman sleep-talking during the night. What stage of sleep is Roman likely to be
in when he sleep-talks?

NREM 3/4?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: 8039 on June 10, 2010, 11:55:40 pm
The researcher observes Roman sleep-talking during the night. What stage of sleep is Roman likely to be
in when he sleep-talks?

NREM 3/4?

Yeah 3/4 NREM, without a doubt. Although I think they wanted you to pick one?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: psych93 on June 11, 2010, 12:06:06 am
That would be crap ! My textbook says its most likely in Stages 3/4 it doesn't whether stage 3 or stage 4 is more likely
The researcher observes Roman sleep-talking during the night. What stage of sleep is Roman likely to be
in when he sleep-talks?

NREM 3/4?

Yeah 3/4 NREM, without a doubt. Although I think they wanted you to pick one?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Slumdawg on June 11, 2010, 12:07:43 am
The researcher observes Roman sleep-talking during the night. What stage of sleep is Roman likely to be
in when he sleep-talks?

NREM 3/4?

Yeah 3/4 NREM, without a doubt. Although I think they wanted you to pick one?

look at the 2002 exam. one of the fill in the blanks was this exact same question. that year they accepted stage 4, or stage 3 or NREM. Not sure about 3/4 though.  So I just went with 4. Check it out. Might have been 2003 or 2004...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 11, 2010, 12:15:03 am
The researcher observes Roman sleep-talking during the night. What stage of sleep is Roman likely to be
in when he sleep-talks?

NREM 3/4?

Yeah 3/4 NREM, without a doubt. Although I think they wanted you to pick one?

look at the 2002 exam. one of the fill in the blanks was this exact same question. that year they accepted stage 4, or stage 3 or NREM. Not sure about 3/4 though.  So I just went with 4. Check it out. Might have been 2003 or 2004...

Last year the question was raised in multiple choice. They didn't want a specific answer though, 'most like to occur in...'
I'll check out the old exam papers.

Oh here it is. 2009 Multiple Choice question 43
Sleep  talking occurs in
A. REM sleep only
B. Stage 1 sleep only
C. Stages 3 and 4 sleep only (this refers to sleep walking)
D. Both REM and NREM sleep

Examiner's commends: 43 students chop option C, this suggests that students are confusing sleep talking, which may occur in any stage of sleep, with sleep walking, which occurs only in stages 3 and 4 of NREM sleep.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 11, 2010, 12:17:40 am
That would be crap ! My textbook says its most likely in Stages 3/4 it doesn't whether stage 3 or stage 4 is more likely
The researcher observes Roman sleep-talking during the night. What stage of sleep is Roman likely to be
in when he sleep-talks?

NREM 3/4?

Yeah 3/4 NREM, without a doubt. Although I think they wanted you to pick one?

What textbook do you use?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 11, 2010, 12:18:07 am
In Stage 3 sleep, which of the following sleep events is least likely to occur?
A. nightmares <--- answer
B. night terrors
C. sleep talking
D. sleep walking

So it didn't specify which stage sleep talk occurs in. Is there anymore sleep talk questions we can refer to and check?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 11, 2010, 12:18:54 am
Wait oops what am I doing, I didn't check the answer u_u
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: minilunchbox on June 11, 2010, 12:19:15 am
That would be crap ! My textbook says its most likely in Stages 3/4 it doesn't whether stage 3 or stage 4 is more likely
The researcher observes Roman sleep-talking during the night. What stage of sleep is Roman likely to be
in when he sleep-talks?

NREM 3/4?

Yeah 3/4 NREM, without a doubt. Although I think they wanted you to pick one?

What textbook do you use?

Ahh crap crap crap. This is getting worse and worse for me. August needs to come sooner to put me out of my misery.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 11, 2010, 12:20:09 am
^^ What did you put? I put any stage of sleep :(
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 11, 2010, 12:21:15 am
^^ What did you put? I put any stage of sleep :(
Me too Tashi :D
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 11, 2010, 12:21:42 am
^^ What did you put? I put any stage of sleep :(
Me too Tashi :D

I've never heard of this NREM stage 4 stuff before in my life...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: psych93 on June 11, 2010, 12:22:29 am
Grivas ... I thought I read it in there.. but I just checked and it just stays NREM or REM
I must have read it from the notes I was given from a seminar

That would be crap ! My textbook says its most likely in Stages 3/4 it doesn't whether stage 3 or stage 4 is more likely
The researcher observes Roman sleep-talking during the night. What stage of sleep is Roman likely to be
in when he sleep-talks?

NREM 3/4?

Yeah 3/4 NREM, without a doubt. Although I think they wanted you to pick one?

What textbook do you use?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 11, 2010, 12:22:36 am
I put 'NREM, stage 4'. That question threw me off.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 11, 2010, 12:34:41 am
Overall what do you guys think of the exam?
Hard-Mediocre- easy?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Tashi on June 11, 2010, 12:35:38 am
^^ fairly hard...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Hongld on June 11, 2010, 12:39:55 am
yeh hard - mediocre.. some questions were dead set obvious.

Start reading Unit 4 yet anyone?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Glockmeister on June 11, 2010, 12:46:08 am
I might write some guides up for research methods next semester (when exams are over), cause strangely enough, I like Research Methods.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: 8039 on June 11, 2010, 12:54:33 am
I thought the exam was extremely easy. If I didn't do it after missing 3 nights of sleep would've gotten 95% for sure.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Visionz on June 11, 2010, 09:37:01 am
I couldnt have hoped for any better tbh. I think I did as well, if not better, than on any practice exams. My plan was to peak on exam day and I think I did it.

Im not sure whether or not it was hard or easy.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Slumdawg on June 11, 2010, 09:47:45 am
It was definitely the hardest VCAA exam since 2005. The questions were quite different and original in SA and MC in the brain and at the start of visual perception (sensation, dark adaptation stuff) But in comparison to some others harder practice exams it was okay. But I found it was a lot more application than just regurgitating. 
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: minilunchbox on June 11, 2010, 03:03:04 pm
It wasn't that bad. It was actually pretty interesting (lol what even). A few questions threw me off though.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: Bing 101 on June 13, 2010, 12:02:32 am
minilunchbox. I noticed your doing Psych UMEP. As a student interested in doing it next year, what do you think of it?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: minilunchbox on June 13, 2010, 01:05:59 am
minilunchbox. I noticed your doing Psych UMEP. As a student interested in doing it next year, what do you think of it?


Check your PMs :)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: sillysmile on June 13, 2010, 01:52:08 am
Can someone tell VN what they wrote describing the sensory stuff and Karen's hand and the coffeee cup being too hot

One of the MC questions asked about the autonomic system and it said how sensory receptors gather info then sensory nuerons take it to the brain etc. I used that to job mymemory.

I said : sensory receptors receive info from internal and external stimuli [not sure about internal*] (such as karen sensing hot glass) and sensory neurons send info to the CNS via sensory/afferent nerves. The brain processes this info and send motor neurons via efferent nerves to the skeletal muscle for movement. This process coordinated the movement of karen putting teh glass down. 
yeah pretty much exactly what I wrote, only thing is I believe that they wanted you to mention the frontal lobe processing the information.. I was really suprised that there were so many 3 mark q's not to mention the 4 mark question.
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: sillysmile on June 13, 2010, 01:58:48 am
Oi lads what did you do for the gestalt principles questions?

I did figure-ground for the columns of circles. I thought the contour line belonging to the circles was able to be separated from the ground and so this cue was able to be used.
I was umming'n'arring between  proximity and figure-ground. I thougth legitimate arguments could be made for both.

I did an amazing answer for the next one using Similarity.

wow, yes well I chose closure for the second one, then changed it to figure ground, then changed it to similarity.. I'm kinda relieved somebody else chose similarity too... heres to similarity ;)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: sillysmile on June 13, 2010, 02:01:16 am
with the perception sensation ones
sensation = reception, transduction transmission selection?
and perception: organisation and interpretation

BUTTT WTF our teacher always told us they can't really be seperated
fucking hate vcaa


 I chose 'perception involves cognitive something something, whereas sensation doesnt.' Least confident question on the whole thing
yep cognition can basically be derived to mean thoughts, which are psychological, and therefore part of perception while sensation is biological/physiological
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: sillysmile on June 13, 2010, 02:03:09 am
Oi lads what did you do for the gestalt principles questions?

I did figure-ground for the columns of circles. I thought the contour line belonging to the circles was able to be separated from the ground and so this cue was able to be used.
I was umming'n'arring between  proximity and figure-ground. I thougth legitimate arguments could be made for both.

I did an amazing answer for the next one using Similarity.
I did figure-ground aswell. most people did proximity. I initially did proximity but thought I could explain figure-ground better

Your answer better have been amazing cause I don't see how it is anything other then closure for the next one lol

I did similarity aswell because elements will common characteristics (the circles) are perceptually grouped together to form the circle.
woot another similarity person ;)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: sillysmile on June 13, 2010, 02:11:07 am
what did everyone get for physiological changes for asc?
i wasnt sure and one of them i said
loss of self control
any chance that is right?
no offence here.. but loss of self control isn't really realistic, what i mean is, there would be a decreased level of self control. saying that somebody has had a loss of self control could be interpreted to mean that they would do absolutely anything that was asked of them (including murder)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 13, 2010, 02:12:44 am
i though it was fairly hard although it was more "different" than hard. I went in aiming for around 80/90 but went out thinking i got around 75. I think I did very well on multiple choice(don't think there is one that i have got certainly wrong) but stuffed up on the short answer. Will be interesting to see what i get
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: hawks08 on June 13, 2010, 02:15:09 am
what did everyone get for physiological changes for asc?
i wasnt sure and one of them i said
loss of self control
any chance that is right?
no offence here.. but loss of self control isn't really realistic, what i mean is, there would be a decreased level of self control. saying that somebody has had a loss of self control could be interpreted to mean that they would do absolutely anything that was asked of them (including murder)
yeh i wasn't sure on that question and with little time left i had a guess. I spose it is not impossible to get a mark for it. *fingers crossed*
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: sillysmile on June 13, 2010, 02:31:58 am
was it just me or was the ames room and the film director thing weird. Does a camera at a peephole eliminated binocular cues..???
Was the detail of the which and the whole storyline necessary I mean come on that was just a waste of ink. you could tell the exam writers were bored and thought that would be funny to put that in.

im pretty sure the location of the camera did not eliminate binocular depth cues. this is bcoz we view the camera film with both eyes-so binocular...i wrote that the camera location at the peephole ensured that our visual angle was the same for both corners, so we perceived the room as a rectangle.
actually the location had nothing to do with whether binocular depth cues were eliminated, however a camera would provide only monocular film since there is only one camera...
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: sillysmile on June 13, 2010, 02:45:19 am
what did everyone get for physiological changes for asc?
i wasnt sure and one of them i said
loss of self control
any chance that is right?
no offence here.. but loss of self control isn't really realistic, what i mean is, there would be a decreased level of self control. saying that somebody has had a loss of self control could be interpreted to mean that they would do absolutely anything that was asked of them (including murder)
yeh i wasn't sure on that question and with little time left i had a guess. I spose it is not impossible to get a mark for it. *fingers crossed*
yeah good luck hawks ;)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: mikee65 on June 13, 2010, 01:09:21 pm
yeah i did C for the first mc

it couldnt be frontal lobe, the frontal lobe doesnt have 3/4 of brain neurons!
i did c also but i remember something in the book saying that frontal lobe has most neuron ending or something i dunno
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: sillysmile on June 13, 2010, 01:29:39 pm
yeah i did C for the first mc

it couldnt be frontal lobe, the frontal lobe doesnt have 3/4 of brain neurons!
i did c also but i remember something in the book saying that frontal lobe has most neuron ending or something i dunno
i'm almost 100% sure that the cerebral cortex contains 3/4 of the brains neurons (with the other quarter being below the 2-5mm cerebral cortex)
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: mikee65 on June 20, 2010, 07:35:53 pm
yeah i did C for the first mc

it couldnt be frontal lobe, the frontal lobe doesnt have 3/4 of brain neurons!
i did c also but i remember something in the book saying that frontal lobe has most neuron ending or something i dunno
i'm almost 100% sure that the cerebral cortex contains 3/4 of the brains neurons (with the other quarter being below the 2-5mm cerebral cortex)
for psychological effects of sleep dep would anxiety and lack of motivation be acceptable?
Title: Re: 2010 Psychology Exam 1 Discussion
Post by: sillysmile on June 22, 2010, 03:07:12 pm
yeah i did C for the first mc

it couldnt be frontal lobe, the frontal lobe doesnt have 3/4 of brain neurons!
i did c also but i remember something in the book saying that frontal lobe has most neuron ending or something i dunno
i'm almost 100% sure that the cerebral cortex contains 3/4 of the brains neurons (with the other quarter being below the 2-5mm cerebral cortex)
for psychological effects of sleep dep would anxiety and lack of motivation be acceptable?
I believe so :)