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VCE Stuff => VCE Humanities => VCE Arts/Humanities/Health => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE Texts and Traditions => Topic started by: Sunny10 on August 16, 2010, 10:10:28 pm
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hi, so its pretty obvious text and traditions is a neglected subject on vcenotes
but i was wondering if anyone knows where to get study material for text from, such as exams or study guides
so far only I've only found practice exams from VCAA but since there is a new study design, more relevant exams would be appreciated.
any help?
note: even if you can't help, a little acknowledgement that someone actually read this post would be nice too
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um i don't know anything about this subject
but first point is its probably neglected because not many students actually do it
also isn't there a study guide in a bookshop for this unit? maybe not ... or maybe you have to scab some off your teacher
also you can tell if someone read this post by looking at the number of views of this topic by going to texts and traditions subheading
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heyy, I do Text and tradition ( The Quranic Section though) .... yes this is a new study design and you won't find many exam type questions.
Have you tried the 2008/2009 vcaa exam?
My text teacher is one of the examiners and she said that during early october they'll be a Text and Tradition revision lecture held at Melbourne Uni I think that will talk to us about what is expected in the exam, show us sample A+ exam answers and notes, lot's and lots of notes :D
I can keep you updated if you want, or possibly send you my notes, dw I don't think you do the Quranic part, but the lecture will be board and about the subject as a whole! :)
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I went to a lecture last year before end of year exam specifically on my text. They tell you some useful stuff, maybe i shoulda listened.
Go if you wanna know exactly how they mark to get your 50 SS
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I went to a lecture last year before end of year exam specifically on my text. They tell you some useful stuff, maybe i shoulda listened.
Go if you wanna know exactly how they mark to get your 50 SS
thanks............ :)
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um i don't know anything about this subject
but first point is its probably neglected because not many students actually do it
also isn't there a study guide in a bookshop for this unit? maybe not ... or maybe you have to scab some off your teacher
also you can tell if someone read this post by looking at the number of views of this topic by going to texts and traditions subheading
umm so far i haven't found any study aids for text and i asked my teacher today and she said to her knowledge that only vcaa bother making exams for text
and lol i've seen the view count, its just more comforting when people reply
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heyy, I do Text and tradition ( The Quranic Section though) .... yes this is a new study design and you won't find many exam type questions.
Have you tried the 2008/2009 vcaa exam?
My text teacher is one of the examiners and she said that during early october they'll be a Text and Tradition revision lecture held at Melbourne Uni I think that will talk to us about what is expected in the exam, show us sample A+ exam answers and notes, lot's and lots of notes :D
I can keep you updated if you want, or possibly send you my notes, dw I don't think you do the Quranic part, but the lecture will be board and about the subject as a whole! :)
if you could keep me posted that would be awesome! i'm studying the gospel of luke, so obviously theyre really different but if you have any tips for me that would be greatly appreciated. And i had no idea melbourne uni had lectures, my teacher told me about vattt? victorian association of teachers of text and traditions? umm but yeah, any help you can send my way would be so so appreciated :)
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I went to a lecture last year before end of year exam specifically on my text. They tell you some useful stuff, maybe i shoulda listened.
Go if you wanna know exactly how they mark to get your 50 SS
lol 50 might be asking for a bit much for me but i'll try. Which lecture did you go to?
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I went to a lecture last year before end of year exam specifically on my text. They tell you some useful stuff, maybe i shoulda listened.
Go if you wanna know exactly how they mark to get your 50 SS
lol 50 might be asking for a bit much for me but i'll try. Which lecture did you go to?
Lol i did gospel of luke as well. i think the lecture was run at st vincents hospital by the chief examiner and someone else high up in the TAT food chain. i ended up writing out about 10 pages of notes from the 90 minute lecture. it was $5 per person i think, my school paid
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I went to a lecture last year before end of year exam specifically on my text. They tell you some useful stuff, maybe i shoulda listened.
Go if you wanna know exactly how they mark to get your 50 SS
lol 50 might be asking for a bit much for me but i'll try. Which lecture did you go to?
Lol i did gospel of luke as well. i think the lecture was run at st vincents hospital by the chief examiner and someone else high up in the TAT food chain. i ended up writing out about 10 pages of notes from the 90 minute lecture. it was $5 per person i think, my school paid
oooh i think my school is going to that lecture as well, all 8 of us lol, except we have to pay the 5 dollars but i'll happily pay that for 90 minutes of knowledge
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Hahah it was so weird... we came in 30 minutes late and everyone in there looked OLD like 25... there was probably 30 people in the lecture theatre
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lol seriously? oh gosh, i feel screwed for this subject.. i knew i should have chosen further
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If it makes you feel any better... i got a 28, highest in my school was a 32 (class of 15)
oh wait, that should make you feel worse... they mark really hard lol sucks to be you :P
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ah crap... thanks for the reality check though :) at least i won't have deluded thoughts about the subject anymore
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On a side note... texts & traditions stuffed up my english skills REALLY BADLY...
i was an average A+ english student in year 10. then in year 11 my texts & traditions teacher taught me to write short concise sentences containing relevant mark-awarding points, with NO padding/descriptive words. my english grades dropped to a D... as i applied the same to my essays
this year i've had to slowly regain my english skills. it's a horrible subject in a whole... totally destroys your writing abilities, not to mention you gotta read thousands of scholars books and quote them etc
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oh wow, i actually never noticed the affect text had on my english. hmm i do literature so i've only really compared lit to english, that's a little worrying for me... and yeah the scholars do my head in, i can't seem to differentiate between the different scholars' opinion in my head.
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hahah i can see what TAT is doing to you already :P
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LOL my prospects aren't looking too good, sigh
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Get Abdi to teach you his ways... he's expecting a 50 (hes dreaming)
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LOL i will definitely try and get Abdi to mentor me or at least throw me some text and traditions related bones
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Just out of curiosity... why did you pick TAT?
i didnt even pick it, i had a RE class of 3 people so they threw me in there. i don't see why anyone would WANT to pick this subject
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Get Abdi to teach you his ways... he's expecting a 50 (hes dreaming)
hahahaha.... I know but then keep in mind if you aim for the sky and don't get there, you will land on the stars! techinically a 48? :D
LOL high 40's will do I'm not too fussed! and I chose text becuase firstly there's only like 5 students doing it and secondly Its all about religion something I'm good at :)
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technically*
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LOL WHAT? you don't aim for the sky and end up on the stars...
YOU are aiming for the stars, and you might land on them if you get that 50 :) THE ONLY 50
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LOL i chose text because i'm indecisive? i was actually doing international politics but the subject was too demanding for me considering i was already failing at methods and chem so i wanted a subject i could relax a bit in so i chose further but i didn't like the teacher so i dropped into text and traditions in the second week of first term this year. but yeah aside from the indecision, i was doing well in text in year 11 so i thought that it would be a manageable subject. But 7 months later i can safely say it may have been the worst decision of my vce life and i should have stuck with further or politics or even biology. sigh
I'm doing well in sacs though, its just i have a feeling they are in no way indicative of my future exam mark
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Hahah, exact same spot as i was in... feeling lots of regret despite good sac marks.
Unlike you, i didn't do units 1/2
My first sac i got 16% so i had to repeat it... and i maintained a 95%+ sac average throughout the year, then i popped a C in the exam. All my sac scores got moderated to B+'s... thus B+ B+ C 28
don't let the success get to you!
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ahh that's some scary stats... sigh
did you feel like you went well in the exam though? was it the harsh marking that let you down? or were you having an off day?
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Well i think i wrote a little bit worse than i did for my sacs... expecting a B+ at the lowest. the markers must be really cruel. ironic since they are marking a religious subject...
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lol ironic indeed but that sucks regardless
mmm thanks for the huge reality check though, i really really needed that
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Lol i just went into my room and found a few stacks of TAT papers on lukes gospel... about knee deep
i should have read them before i went into the exam hahah
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lol what kind of papers? where can i get said papers?
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Booklets on stuff that can be used in exegesis etc... teacher gave us like 5 booklets per lesson. accumulated = 1 pile shoulder deep.
i just use the back pages of the booklets as scrap paper for maths now lol
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LOL i do that for maths as well
did you study a lot for the exam? if so, how did you study for it?
and can i just say looking at your subjects, TAT is a really random choice, why didn't you do further or physics? you seem maths oriented
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Umm, i stayed home for 3 days before the exam and just read the whole gospel again, memorised the order of passages of chapters of special study (for exegesis purposes), i read Tannehill and another 2 commentaries. Sad to say... i didn't write any practice exams besides the two done in school organized prac exams.
I didn't plan on doing a 3/4 in year 11, they just chucked me in there as i said before cos there was 3 people in my RE class. and yeah im maths/science orientated :P
you'd probably end up with a higher study score if you just dropped TAT and did RNS right now til the end of year lol
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LOL the sad thing is i think that's true, about the RNS thing, ahh damn it, why didn't i have the foresight to realise TAT would be the death of me?
ah Tannehill does my head in but i'd take him over fitzmyer anyday
Do you think it would be more beneficial to do practice exams or just write an exegesis on every passage in Luke?
And if you weren't planning on doing a 3/4 in year 11, were you just going to have 4 subjects in year 12? i must say that's pretty daring of you
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What's life without risks? :P
Nah i did 5 subjects this year, i withdrawed from IT: Software Development unit 4.
I heard that a lot of schools made their kids write an exegesis on every special study passage, and they probably were the students that ended up with higher scores. I wouldn't know cos i was lazy and did jack all.
Do you have access to lots of books? My teacher brought in like 40 books on Luke and chucked them in the cupboard... we were free to take them home and read them all throughout the year. I think that would help heaps
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lol i've always been a little on the safe side when it comes to academics
thats a good idea about the special passages, hopefully i'll be able to do that considering i have a year of methods to catch up on
my school has some books but not many, i'd say we'd only have 10 max for luke. If you had heaps though did it get confusing at all trying to memorise quotes?
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Psst, here's a tip...
Make up your own quotes in the exam :) Use this sentence structure
Scholar ________ (make up a name) interprets the phrase/word ____________ as ____________.
As long as it sounds legit, it will be accepted. No examiner has read EVERY book on Luke's gospel... and will not dare to call you a liar
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LOLOL i can definitely see myself resorting to that
in fact i'm pretty sure i did that in my history revolutions exam last year
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If memory serves me correctly and they haven't changed the exam structure... in the exam, you get like 3 sections, and limited choice as to which ones you answer. Hopefully you won't be like me and be clueless on all the questions... the only one i could do was the exegesis, the essay and short answer questions were all garbage lol i had no idea... had 0 things to write on all the options
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lol unfortunately they changed the structure so there is a new study design this year. they added a few extra questions and there is only one exegesis now, i think there use to be two? that's partially why i'm so desperate for help since there is a new structure and the sample exam they've released isn't relevant to this year's special chapters so i think i'm a little screwed
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Just out of curiosity... why did you pick TAT?
i didnt even pick it, i had a RE class of 3 people so they threw me in there. i don't see why anyone would WANT to pick this subject
I wish I could have done it. Unfortunately though I was already doing six subjects this year. =(
Nevertheless, I still sit in on most classes. Very very interesting I must say.
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Just out of curiosity... why did you pick TAT?
i didnt even pick it, i had a RE class of 3 people so they threw me in there. i don't see why anyone would WANT to pick this subject
you can do 7 subjects can't you? My brother done 7, or does it depend on the school?
I wish I could have done it. Unfortunately though I was already doing six subjects this year. =(
Nevertheless, I still sit in on most classes. Very very interesting I must say.
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You probably can, but that would be crazy if you were working solidly in each of them...
Thing is I really wanted to do Further and would have also possibly done Psychology.
I probably could have done an extra one though as I haven't exactly capitalised on my time so far this year...
Also, my school doesn't even let people do six really. It was funny when the VCE co-ordinator asked how I was finding my subjects at the start of the year and afterwards was shocked that there were six, Haha. I think he just didn't make the connection last year that enhancement counted as a subject..
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Just out of curiosity... why did you pick TAT?
i didnt even pick it, i had a RE class of 3 people so they threw me in there. i don't see why anyone would WANT to pick this subject
i can't you'd have the patience to sit in text class considering you're not studying it, i hate it. I feel like each lesson ages me
what text is your school studying for it?
I wish I could have done it. Unfortunately though I was already doing six subjects this year. =(
Nevertheless, I still sit in on most classes. Very very interesting I must say.
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We're doing John. The teacher is pretty awesome. That helps =P
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lol that's where we differ, we're doing Luke and my teacher is well, a little bit of a jerk
It also doesn't help that she's also my literature teacher so on Tuesdays i have three hours worth of class with her
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hey guys, I'm studying the gospel of Luke and we havent been told about any lectures! It would be great if someone could post the ones they're planning on going to :)
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My text teacher is one of the examiners and she said that during early october they'll be a Text and Tradition revision lecture held at Melbourne Uni I think that will talk to us about what is expected in the exam, show us sample A+ exam answers and notes, lot's and lots of notes :D
When's this? Only revision day i heard of is the one coming up this Thursday.
Mind if you tell me?
TC,
Souljette
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hey guys, I'm studying the gospel of Luke and we havent been told about any lectures! It would be great if someone could post the ones they're planning on going to :)
hey i'm doing luke too, there's a lecture tomorrow at the academy of mary immaculate but there's also a repeat of it on thursday september 9th. try the below link but you'll need to get your teacher to go or you won't be allowed in
http://www.vattt.vic.edu.au/student.html
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My text teacher is one of the examiners and she said that during early october they'll be a Text and Tradition revision lecture held at Melbourne Uni I think that will talk to us about what is expected in the exam, show us sample A+ exam answers and notes, lot's and lots of notes :D
When's this? Only revision day i heard of is the one coming up this Thursday.
Mind if you tell me?
TC,
Souljette
LOL my bad I was meaning to say the Thursday one this week at that Mary Immaculate college yeah?
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My text teacher is one of the examiners and she said that during early october they'll be a Text and Tradition revision lecture held at Melbourne Uni I think that will talk to us about what is expected in the exam, show us sample A+ exam answers and notes, lot's and lots of notes :D
When's this? Only revision day i heard of is the one coming up this Thursday.
Mind if you tell me?
TC,
Souljette
LOL my bad I was meaning to say the Thursday one this week at that Mary Immaculate college yeah?
Thought so. Even though I wish there would be one in Melb Uni..
Yeah, that's the address.
TC
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aah i hoped there would be a melbourne uni one too
well i'll take what i can get
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hey guys, I'm studying the gospel of Luke and we havent been told about any lectures! It would be great if someone could post the ones they're planning on going to :)
hey i'm doing luke too, there's a lecture tomorrow at the academy of mary immaculate but there's also a repeat of it on thursday september 9th. try the below link but you'll need to get your teacher to go or you won't be allowed in
http://www.vattt.vic.edu.au/student.html
Yeah, I went to that one last night which was good to just re-enforce everything. How is your year finding the subject, are they doing well? Is there one at melbourne uni?
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i went last night too!
umm my class is finding it alright, we're doing pretty well as a class but since there are only 8 of us, it's hard to know if doing well is actually an achievement
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heyy, I do Text and tradition ( The Quranic Section though) .... yes this is a new study design and you won't find many exam type questions.
Have you tried the 2008/2009 vcaa exam?
My text teacher is one of the examiners and she said that during early october they'll be a Text and Tradition revision lecture held at Melbourne Uni I think that will talk to us about what is expected in the exam, show us sample A+ exam answers and notes, lot's and lots of notes :D
I can keep you updated if you want, or possibly send you my notes, dw I don't think you do the Quranic part, but the lecture will be board and about the subject as a whole! :)
hi i do text and traditions (quranic section) and i was hoping you could send me your notes, it would be greatly appreciated
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Damn Texts and Traditions. I did it last year, twas the bane of my life! Too bad i didn't discover this thread earlier aw, could've posted some of my old notes.
advice (that's also relevant to other subjects): because the questions on the exam are so specific, DO PRACTICE EXAMS to time, and do it until you get ti right. Force yourself to spend no longer than the alloted minutes. It's the only thing that got me through! And in the end i actually missed the subject for some reason, i quite liked the 'historical' part of it haha. :) Good luck!!
and ps. A 50 in T&T is fucking hard to get. I got all high A+s and assumed I would at least pull out a 45 or 46- nope!
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I did Luke btw
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I did Luke btw
Wow you got 43 with luke, nice work! i got... half of what you did. exam was crazy hard
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I did Luke btw
Wow you got 43 with luke, nice work! i got... half of what you did. exam was crazy hard
Haha thanks! I was actually disappointed, overestimated what I would get, not enough understanding of the ranking process i suppose. I seriously worked my ass off all year, so glad i did but regretting not doing two year 12 subjects in year 11. Do you remember what questions you did on the exam? I loved the short answer ones.
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I think i wrote some bs for all 3 sections... something about herod. the subject wasn't too bad i reckon, spent the first 20 minutes of every class making coffee and eating food lol
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haha :) Were you forced to do it or was it a choice? Can i ask what school do you go to?
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Get Abdi to teach you his ways... he's expecting a 50 (hes dreaming)
hahahaha.... I know but then keep in mind if you aim for the sky and don't get there, you will land on the stars! techinically a 48? :D
LOL high 40's will do I'm not too fussed! and I chose text becuase firstly there's only like 5 students doing it and secondly Its all about religion something I'm good at :)
haha good luck Abdi! I thought i would get high 40s, i was wrong :( It's really freaking hard haha, but good luck for the exam! :)
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I didnt plan to do any 3/4's in year 11, but there was only 3 people in year 11 t&t, so they said "we're moving you to 3/4". i didnt even know wtf 3/4 was at that time so im like err ok. ended up getting about 7% on my first sac. im at st bedes college. there was only <10 people doing it and no one got above 34. screwed over bad... other schools did really well though for some reason.
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Get Abdi to teach you his ways... he's expecting a 50 (hes dreaming)
hahahaha.... I know but then keep in mind if you aim for the sky and don't get there, you will land on the stars! techinically a 48? :D
LOL high 40's will do I'm not too fussed! and I chose text becuase firstly there's only like 5 students doing it and secondly Its all about religion something I'm good at :)
haha good luck Abdi! I thought i would get high 40s, i was wrong :( It's really freaking hard haha, but good luck for the exam! :)
LOL thanks... nah I now realised I have no chance of a 50... its too hard! :(
anything above a 40 would be fantastic :)
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I didnt plan to do any 3/4's in year 11, but there was only 3 people in year 11 t&t, so they said "we're moving you to 3/4". i didnt even know wtf 3/4 was at that time so im like err ok. ended up getting about 7% on my first sac. im at st bedes college. there was only <10 people doing it and no one got above 34. screwed over bad... other schools did really well though for some reason.
Haha do you know Ryan ^^ ahh that sucks but at least you got some experience at doing a yr 12 subject! I actually CHOSE to do it, no idea why haha
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wait. or does he go to.... maybe he doesnt go to St Bedes.. hmm. Are you enjoying the subjects you're doing this year?
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ryan.... who?
and no, im getting raped left right and centre in all subs lol
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Jones..? haha. How's the uni subject going?
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Yeah he's in my methods class.
btw... i wouldnt take my sig seriously, i don't do any of those subjects bar english :P
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:S i am confused
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That's the point :D
I actually do eng chem meth spesh.
i requested to do muep maths but school lied to me last year and said theres no such thing so i can't do it
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:S i am confused
how exactly did you prepare for exams? i.e. Exam papers/practise..did you just rely on your teacher?
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haha then why arnt they in your sig? :P i would never ever ever do chem, tis awful! So bad at science/maths it's actually a joke. How did u find the English exam?
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I agree. chem is the worst subject ever. not really, but "tis awful" as you said. i got raped by the english exam... was initially aiming for a 44-46 but probs gonna get 32 now lol wbu?
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:S i am confused
how exactly did you prepare for exams? i.e. Exam papers/practise..did you just rely on your teacher?
Okay well i did really good notes for each set passage, like an in-depth exegesis. And my friend and i went over all the concepts blah blah. We also went to that lecture in the city which helped.
BUT the thing that i think upped my marks was doing a shitload of prac exams/questions, TO TIME. and then got my teacher to mark and re-mark and just kept doing it. and obv go over old SACs and stuff.
Because for my first prac exam i got like 80% and then the second i got like 78% or something, but through practice i managed to learn what they wanted to hear (VCE is all about developing the technique they like!) and got A+ in the exam :)
i know there's a new study design this year but go back to old examiner's reports and take note of what they want for specific tasks. Esp. the exegesis. It really is worth looking at the old reports.
Good luck! :)
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We also went to that lecture in the city which helped.
I went too! but it didn't help... my class came in for the last 30 minutes cos we couldnt find the damn building :(
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I agree. chem is the worst subject ever. not really, but "tis awful" as you said. i got raped by the english exam... was initially aiming for a 44-46 but probs gonna get 32 now lol wbu?
Hmm...English is actually my best subject so I'm HOPING i got over 40 for it. The exam was alright, finished and all but didn't feel too confident. The 1984 questions threw me, and i didn't manage my time well enough to read over the exam. Bah! How depressing :P
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Haha yeah i heard 1984 had shitty prompts like AMFAS. screwed over 3 subjects in a row this year by vcfaags
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We also went to that lecture in the city which helped.
I went too! but it didn't help... my class came in for the last 30 minutes cos we couldnt find the damn building :(
haha aw, that sucks. I found it helped to clarify things in my mind. Though i thought everyone in there looked real nerdy hehe and that probs distracted me for about half the time! :P
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ahh i read the AMFAS ones, and they were even worse. Did you see the Cosi/Maestro ones? ridiculously easy.
I think i fucked up literature yesterday damn :(
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We also went to that lecture in the city which helped.
I went too! but it didn't help... my class came in for the last 30 minutes cos we couldnt find the damn building :(
haha aw, that sucks. I found it helped to clarify things in my mind. Though i thought everyone in there looked real nerdy hehe and that probs distracted me for about half the time! :P
I thought everyone looked OLD! like... 20+
ahh i read the AMFAS ones, and they were even worse. Did you see the Cosi/Maestro ones? ridiculously easy.
I think i fucked up literature yesterday damn :(
Yeah my school did AMFAS and cosi... i fkn picked the wrong book =/
you like writing essays or something... your subjects make my head hurt
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I used to like them, VCE has made me dislike them. I like reading the books though hehe. I just realised ALL of my subjects are essay writing ones, damn haha. YOUR subjects make my head hurt :P
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I picked the subjects that require no rote learning. ie. maths and chem. :) lazyyyy ass i am
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I picked the subjects that require no rote learning. ie. maths and chem. :) lazyyyy ass i am
Lol, exactly the same as me..
Laaaazzzzyyyy
I regret doing Business last year..
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I disagree, i feel like maths and science are the ones that need a lot of rote learning. With English etc you just read it and discuss in class, figure out the concepts and interpretations and then use your writing skills to put it on paper! There's little memorising etc involved except quotes, which is why i like it. There's no one answer ;P
I picked the subjects that require no rote learning. ie. maths and chem. :) lazyyyy ass i am
Lol, exactly the same as me..
Laaaazzzzyyyy
I regret doing Business last year..
How did u do in business? i heard it's a pretty easy subject? Italian is the one that kills me haha
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Ah, you see, with Maths and sciences, I come to a level of understanding of the concepts(which doesn't take much work for me - this is where my lazy nature is appeased), rather than memorising them, so I can approach questions with intuition instead of trying to reapply a technique I've seen used on an example.. So for me there is close to zero rote learning required. Plus, if there happens to be something which appears to need memorising, I search for a method of understanding, so I can derive the information on-the-spot to save mind-blanks and the like in assessment taks.
I'd agree that there is really very little rote learning in Englishes, only quotes - and they can be learnt through incorporating them in practice essays rather than mindlessly memorising them "off-by-heart". But Englishes do take a lot of work, a lot of thinking. I have actually grown quite fond of them in the past month. I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I will actually miss English next year. [Lit more than mainstream, but eh, they've both hooked me... somehow.]
Only got 39 raw in business (scales dooowwwnnn to 36 xD) - screwed the exam up. Got a high A.. It is a basic, common-sense type of subject, so the disparity between (top-ish) students mainly lies in the way they structure their answers, rather than actual content - which was my downfall, apparently.
[Something of relevance to this thread.]
I would have done T+T this year if I had room in my timetable / was crazy enough to do 7 subjects in year 12. Oh, and I would have gladly swapped Business for it last year. Too bad my school only started 3+4 this year.
As I've said earlier in this thread, I sat in on many of the classes at my school... Now the teacher wants me to sit the exam, just to see "how [I'd] go".. Lol.
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I would have done T+T this year if I had room in my timetable / was crazy enough to do 7 subjects in year 12. Oh, and I would have gladly swapped Business for it last year. Too bad my school only started 3+4 this year.
As I've said earlier in this thread, I sat in on many of the classes at my school... Now the teacher wants me to sit the exam, just to see "how [I'd] go".. Lol.
haha that's crazy!
I would not do that subject as a part of year 12, it took up so much time last year it was quite depressing :P
I<3 lit and English :)
I regret not doing two 3/4s last year actually
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You guys are nuts... i'm doing 4 subs and dying. not to mention 4 subs that require no study at all to get decent marks.
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Maths and Science are insane------------- English/ humanities all the way,unfortunately I die a little inside for choosing Chem everyday!
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Haha, 6 subjects FTW. =P
@Abdi: the 74 kills you, right... ;)
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Haha, 6 subjects FTW. =P
@Abdi: the 74 kills you, right... ;)
I'm good at it but I don't like it as opposed to my other subjects matty! :)
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Haha, its ok, was a joke man.
That sounds like me with English ... except for the being good at it part ... :P
Lowered your Texts aim to 41?? :o What happened to the 50?
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Haha, its ok, was a joke man.
That sounds like me with English ... except for the being good at it part ... :P
Lowered your Texts aim to 41?? :o What happened to the 50?
dude I went to one of the lectures and the chief examiner is like " only one person gets a 50 in text" WTF thats insane! :(
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Dude... only like two people do tat in all of victoria
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I think i fucked up literature yesterday damn :(
dude, i think i messed up literature too!
and can i just say we do really similar subjects? i did revs last year and seeing that you aced tnt, youre gonna rock history as well
got any tips for tnt besides practice?
good luck for revs!
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I think i fucked up literature yesterday damn :(
dude, i think i messed up literature too!
and can i just say we do really similar subjects? i did revs last year and seeing that you aced tnt, youre gonna rock history as well
got any tips for tnt besides practice?
good luck for revs!
Ahh i doubt it because I haven't had enough time for studies and now i'm feeling lazy :(
What subjects do you do/have you done? :) And plz give me tips for revs
Well for tnt as i said to Souljette, I don''t have any guaranteed methods haha, I couldn't believe I got an A+! And I wouldn't say i aced TNT, was a tad disappointed.
But yeh, know your stuff and know timing. It's easy to screw that up. Also, look at the examiners' report, apparantly there's a new study design or whatever this year but it's still useful to pick up some tips for the tasks. Oh and esp on the essay, don't write everything you know, and try to relate stuff to like the outer text, the like to see that you above and beyond. Sorry if you've heard it all before, unfortunately just practice practice is the best shot.
Give 'em hell! :)
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Haha, its ok, was a joke man.
That sounds like me with English ... except for the being good at it part ... :P
Lowered your Texts aim to 41?? :o What happened to the 50?
dude I went to one of the lectures and the chief examiner is like " only one person gets a 50 in text" WTF thats insane! :(
Yeah i tohught i would at least get 46 :(
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It was pretty cool that there were only like...10 people above me. I got best in my class too yay :) And it was a big class heh
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I think i fucked up literature yesterday damn :(
dude, i think i messed up literature too!
and can i just say we do really similar subjects? i did revs last year and seeing that you aced tnt, youre gonna rock history as well
got any tips for tnt besides practice?
good luck for revs!
Ahh i doubt it because I haven't had enough time for studies and now i'm feeling lazy :(
What subjects do you do/have you done? :) And plz give me tips for revs
Well for tnt as i said to Souljette, I don''t have any guaranteed methods haha, I couldn't believe I got an A+! And I wouldn't say i aced TNT, was a tad disappointed.
But yeh, know your stuff and know timing. It's easy to screw that up. Also, look at the examiners' report, apparantly there's a new study design or whatever this year but it's still useful to pick up some tips for the tasks. Oh and esp on the essay, don't write everything you know, and try to relate stuff to like the outer text, the like to see that you above and beyond. Sorry if you've heard it all before, unfortunately just practice practice is the best shot.
Give 'em hell! :)
ah thanks, ive heard it before but its still good to be reminded :) and i do english, lit, chem, methods, tnt and revs (russia/china) last year, so some similar subjects, its rare finding a fellow tnt-er. Can i just say im shocked that your tnt class is large, mine is just 8 people, in fact my teacher made me give talks to year 11's to promote the subject because there were so few students
and my advice for revs is pretty similar to your advice for tnt, do lots of practice exams and try not to get distracted by quotes and dates because theyre not worth much if your knowledge of leaders, events, movements and ideas are lacking, but of course, theyre still important. umm and for 6 mark questions always always link back to the document or image and definitely dont go over half an hour for any section of the exam because its all worth the same but im assuming you know all this so any other advice i have for the subject is redundant.
Good luck! Show them what youre made of :)
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It's called TAT not tnt...
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tnt is more fun though :)
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oh come on now... its only a name :P
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T&T?? shame you didn't switch to Texts m@tty.. you sat in like all our classes... (bringing it to a grand total of 3).... ;)
I'd be wrapped to get 40... been a long year and alot of exegesis'esseses (exegesi?) hopefully it will pay of.. but apparently use of scholar quotes is quite important... and im hearing this some 4 days out from the exam... not good... i think having a Messianic teacher (Book of John) should help though.... apparently examiners love to hear about Jewish customs of the day...
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T&T?? shame you didn't switch to Texts m@tty.. you sat in like all our classes... (bringing it to a grand total of 3).... ;)
I'd be wrapped to get 40... been a long year and alot of exegesis'esseses (exegesi?) hopefully it will pay of.. but apparently use of scholar quotes is quite important... and im hearing this some 4 days out from the exam... not good... i think having a Messianic teacher (Book of John) should help though.... apparently examiners love to hear about Jewish customs of the day...
Two things:
1. I didn't use scholar quotes and I got 40+. So they lied to you. :P I guess they can't hurt but it's not 100% necessary.
2. My class thought we were so smart for coming up with the term 'exegesi'. I think it should become an official word.
And good luck to everybody! :)
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Damn i hated this subject heh, and then i missed it for some reason..
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Damn i hated this subject heh, and then i missed it for some reason..
Hahah i cleaned out my room today and found all these TAT notes... i miss it too :(
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Damn i hated this subject heh, and then i missed it for some reason..
how can you hate T&T.. :( it's like my fav subject...
Anyway, you did awesome, should be good.
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How can you like it? I feel like I age in tnt class
I can't wait til it's over
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How can you like it? I feel like I age in tnt class
I can't wait til it's over
LOL- i guess it comes down to how you approach the subject. Although I never really liked half of the students in my class because they ruin our learning process. There's like 20+ in our class and is ...
This your only subject or are you in year 12?
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lol nah im in year 12, how about you?
and yeah i know what you mean, the subject itself isnt too bad, i enjoy some of it since i'm inclined to humanities anyway but some of the things we learn and the class is just tedious. And maybe its a tnt class thing but my class get sidetracked heaps as well. plus its a tiny tiny class of 8 so yeah, fun times being with oddly enthusiastic kids..
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For the last time... it's called TAT not effin TNT. Get it right :tickedoff:
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lol nah im in year 12, how about you?
and yeah i know what you mean, the subject itself isnt too bad, i enjoy some of it since i'm inclined to humanities anyway but some of the things we learn and the class is just tedious. And maybe its a tnt class thing but my class get sidetracked heaps as well. plus its a tiny tiny class of 8 so yeah, fun times being with oddly enthusiastic kids..
Yeah i'm in year 12 :) I like humanity subjects as well. I guess T&T is your last Exam as well? Believe me your lucky, i would have anything to drop the class size to a 8-10 or even lower lol. And it's the same reason what you've mentioned, my class always gets sidetracked.
TnT a compulsory subject in your school? Or did you choose it out of your own free will?
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i hate virtual communication, i cant tell if its honestly pissing you off
irregardless, TNT it is and tnt it shall remain
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T&T! that's what i always called it hehe
and sunny, i may or may not be stalking you...
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lol nah im in year 12, how about you?
and yeah i know what you mean, the subject itself isnt too bad, i enjoy some of it since i'm inclined to humanities anyway but some of the things we learn and the class is just tedious. And maybe its a tnt class thing but my class get sidetracked heaps as well. plus its a tiny tiny class of 8 so yeah, fun times being with oddly enthusiastic kids..
Yeah i'm in year 12 :) I like humanity subjects as well. I guess T&T is your last Exam as well? Believe me your lucky, i would have anything to drop the class size to a 8-10 or even lower lol. And it's the same reason what you've mentioned, my class always gets sidetracked.
TnT a compulsory subject in your school? Or did you choose it out of your own free will?
yeah tnt is last, hmm 8 is alright, if that meant we were learning more but its not making a difference, my teacher actually got me to give talks to encourage people and next year's class is 22 now, twas a huge shock to the teacher lol
and tnt 1&2 is compulsory, but i chose it out of my free will for year 12
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T&T! that's what i always called it hehe
and sunny, i may or may not be stalking you...
LOL MELISSA welcome to the tnt thread :) this thread is pretty much half the state of tnt kids anyway
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LOL MELISSA welcome to the tnt thread :) this thread is pretty much half the state of tnt kids anyway
true that... what the heck... 22??!!?!!?? thats insane... i thought 4 was massive for units 1/2... and 2 perfect for 3/4... i love it when we go off track.... we learn more.... is your course from catholic perspective? (assuming john/luke study)
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Sean-bryce, I think you mean three would have been perfect for 3/4... :P
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true that... what the heck... 22??!!?!!?? thats insane... i thought 4 was massive for units 1/2... and 2 perfect for 3/4... i love it when we go off track.... we learn more.... is your course from catholic perspective? (assuming john/luke study)
lol yeah im studying luke, and half the class are very religious, the other half were out of subjects to do
and my teacher is also my literature teacher so i see her 10 periods are week, thats 3 hours on a tuesday, so sue me if the class makes me a little suicidal sometimes
nothing fun about a teacher who puts her hand down her pants when she's thinking (true story)
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the closeness of the upcoming exam may be making me a little more bitter than usual...
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maybe you should go study!
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maybe you should shut up!
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Haha, you've made your point. ::)
the closeness of the upcoming exam may be making me a little more bitter than usual...
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maybe you should log off!
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Haha, you've made your point. ::)
the closeness of the upcoming exam may be making me a little more bitter than usual...
sigh, sorry kids, im usually pleasant and sunny lol
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I'm sure. Just relax. Your performance on the impending exam is not improved by stress/anxiety/having a bleak outlook or whatever.. :) Be happy, sunny, and ready to own the exam :D
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aww thanks matty, since youre so sweet im willing to overlook the fact that youre 38 :P
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sunny, i'll be there in the exam with you! (since we are the same person)
i will send you my brain waves...even though i know nothing about luke
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Just remember that the devil departed from him until an "opportune time"
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aww thanks matty, since youre so sweet im willing to overlook the fact that youre 38 :P
Nah, sorry to tell you.. but I'm a little ashamed of my age. I'm really 48...-30 years ;)
Just remember that the devil departed from him until an "opportune time"
Meaning that he'll also come to us at an opportune time? ie. plague them during the exam.. :o
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Just remember that the devil departed from him until an "opportune time"
thats not creeping me out at all..
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aww thanks matty, since youre so sweet im willing to overlook the fact that youre 38 :P
Nah, sorry to tell you.. but I'm a little ashamed of my age. I'm really 48...-30 years ;)
wsell if it helps you cant tell at all, you look (virtually) very young for your age
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Knowledge test: list all the things you know
- luke wrote for a gentile audience
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aww thanks matty, since youre so sweet im willing to overlook the fact that youre 38 :P
Nah, sorry to tell you.. but I'm a little ashamed of my age. I'm really 48...-30 years ;)
wsell if it helps you cant tell at all, you look (virtually) very young for your age
Wow.. I don't know what to say.. Thankyou ? .. :P
Knowledge test: list all the things you know
- luke wrote for a gentile audience
Not for da Jews, man.
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hey sunny text me your email (or email me back) and i'll try forward you some texts stuff from that chick i was trying to ring for you way back. that's right, karma me up woman.
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- he wrote it in about 80 - 90 ce
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hey sunny text me your email (or email me back) and i'll try forward you some texts stuff from that chick i was trying to ring for you way back. that's right, karma me up woman.
OMG! I LOVE YOU! KARMA-ING!
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'still for the beard thing'
ily
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- he wrote it in about 80 - 90 ce
Refrain from mentioning such a small time period such as 80-90. There exists an ongoing debate between scholars regarding the actual date of writing. You would score better if you could incorporate that such arguments exist, it shows more broader exposure to writings and ability to compare opinions.
"some scholars argue ____ , whilst others believe ___. however there is no evidence to support that either are historically correct"
Chuck in some scholars names and you got yourself a 50 :)
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'still for the beard thing'
ily
my good deed for the day :D
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- he wrote it in about 80 - 90 ce
Refrain from mentioning such a small time period such as 80-90. There exists an ongoing debate between scholars regarding the actual date of writing. You would score better if you could incorporate that such arguments exist, it shows more broader exposure to writings and ability to compare opinions.
"some scholars argue ____ , whilst others believe ___. however there is no evidence to support that either are historically correct"
Chuck in some scholars names and you got yourself a 50 :)
sigh this sounded more fun before you reminded me its for an exam, but no truer words were ev'r spoken, thanks for the advice :)
nice to see you changed back to your rightful gender as well by the way
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what texts did you do? ceebs texting SOZ
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Sunny is getting a 50. No doubt about it.
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woo for sunny!
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Sunny is getting a 50. No doubt about it.
woo for sunny!
you know, if you say that in an enthusiastic voice with pom poms and i think we just accidentally started a cheerleading squad
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what texts are you doing sunny? focus girl focus. cheer squad is all well and good, but you still need to DO your exam... :P
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lalala woo for being finished. vce AND first year.
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oh right, damnit! this is how communism starts..
sorry im doing the gospel of luke
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...what do you mean? communism is awesome.
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lol i meant the distraction part eg OH YAY MAO IS SO CUTE IN HIS RED JACKET or DO YOU THINK STALIN STRAIGHTEN'S HIS MOUSTACHE etc
those distractions :)
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took me about 3 reads, but i get you.. lols :)
and i was joking, communism never works... and there's no motivation for commitment, individual work ethic, pride, etc etc etc...
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i know you were joking :)
hence my reply, dont worry, you'll keep up one day
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.... awkward.
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LOL i bet you have a bald patch on your beard from quizzical scratching
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nah.
but i did get a bit of a hair cut and a shave. kinda.
cos i went up to sydney to see dad so i thought i should clean myself up a little. proud? come see me after texts.
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dude... the beard was the source of your powers. i dont suppose your dad's name is delilah..? (look it up, you'll get the joke)
and i fully intend to stalk you after texts :)
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definitely not looking it up. all i've got is 'hey there delilah' going through my head. doesn't really remind me of my dad. enlighten me? i'm off to either learn that on guitar, or go to bed. havent decided yet. night!
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lol i'll save it for later, night herzy
and learn it on guitar, i know it on piano ;)
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true that... what the heck... 22??!!?!!?? thats insane... i thought 4 was massive for units 1/2... and 2 perfect for 3/4... i love it when we go off track.... we learn more.... is your course from catholic perspective? (assuming john/luke study)
lol yeah im studying luke, and half the class are very religious, the other half were out of subjects to do
and my teacher is also my literature teacher so i see her 10 periods are week, thats 3 hours on a tuesday, so sue me if the class makes me a little suicidal sometimes
nothing fun about a teacher who puts her hand down her pants when she's thinking (true story)
hehe i'm not religious at all and i got the best SS in the class. Owned it! xD
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true that... what the heck... 22??!!?!!?? thats insane... i thought 4 was massive for units 1/2... and 2 perfect for 3/4... i love it when we go off track.... we learn more.... is your course from catholic perspective? (assuming john/luke study)
lol yeah im studying luke, and half the class are very religious, the other half were out of subjects to do
and my teacher is also my literature teacher so i see her 10 periods are week, thats 3 hours on a tuesday, so sue me if the class makes me a little suicidal sometimes
nothing fun about a teacher who puts her hand down her pants when she's thinking (true story)
hehe i'm not religious at all and i got the best SS in the class. Owned it! xD
lol nice, i got the award but since i only had 7 classmates, its not much of an achievement, also sacs mean zilch.