ATAR Notes: Forum
VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: Syao on September 27, 2010, 09:46:50 pm
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Is it worth repeating year 12 to get a higher ATAR, or to go do a first year at university and then try to transfer into your desired course?
Because right now, my dream course is Com/Law at Monash, but I doubt I'll even get in at the rate I'm going with some of my subjects.
B+ for Chemistry mid-year
B for Physics
Looking at my results, they're not very good...and Monash has some 95+ ATAR rule for under 17 year olds that massively sucks :(
Thoughts? Should I repeat? Please help me with my decision x]
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If you repeat, are you 100% sure you will get in the year after? I know monash doesn't take into consideration how many years a student has taken to complete VCE but ensure you WILL definetely get in the year after to avoid throwing away a year of your life and suffering year 12 all over again.
This year has been tremendously overwhelming and overtly stressful to me personally, and that is the reason why i wouldn't want anyone to have to go through it twice unless they absolutely have to
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No, don't repeat. The ATAR is nothing but your ticket to uni, once uni starts no one will ever ask whether you got 90 or 95. It may seem like a good idea now but it might be something you'll regret going down the track.
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nah. get on with your life and move to greener pastures. just do the best u can this year
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If you repeat, are you 100% sure you will get in the year after? I know monash doesn't take into consideration how many years a student has taken to complete VCE but ensure you WILL definetely get in the year after to avoid throwing away a year of your life and suffering year 12 all over again.
This year has been tremendously overwhelming and overtly stressful to me personally, and that is the reason why i wouldn't want anyone to have to go through it twice unless they absolutely have to
Yeah, which is why it's kind of hard deciding. To live through the painful torture of year 12, or to go on to uni...hmm.
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I would say repeat it, save yourself the uncertainty, like above im 100% youll get it if you repeat yr12
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When you move on from year 12, you'll realise theres more to the world than what school makes it out to be. You will undoubtedly find something you enjoy at uni even if you don't get into comm/law. you could just get into comm and if you really like it, you'll get HD or something with ease. then your chance of transferring will be very high.
Year 12 makes your head hurt, save your wallet the pain of having to fork out for panadol
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but think about, do you really want to put yourself through all the stress and late nights again??
there are always back ways of getting into your wanted course anyway :)
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omg, a lot of people have been saying they wonna repeat year 12 on VN. I wonder if vexx had any influence on this...
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Syao- If you are prepared to work really hard next year and get the score for your law course you want to do, how fun is this really going to be? How certain are you that you will get it?
If you actually going to work hard to get in, and want it that bad, its probably easier (due to doing subjects your more interested in) and funner to just do a year of a different course and then transfer across with an average of high 70s.
IMO, if you are motivated enough, you will be able to get this transfer grade by doing more interesting than vce subjects and smash them:) you aren't aiming for 100% perfection by ROTE or repeating the same style questions a hundred times over like VCE, you are aiming for 80% by actually trying to learn all the material and understand it, whilst doing some practice - far better learning style
Realise so many people are competing for that score in vce as a school leaver, so you have to beat them, rather than have to beat all the lazy first year undergrad students who just want to take a chill year.
But, it is up to you - you may find it is easier to just get the score by repeating VCE, otherwise uni is probably better.
Goodluck regardless!
omg, a lot of people have been saying they wonna repeat year 12 on VN. I wonder if vexx had any influence on this...
Haha hopefully it isn't my fault xD
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hmm very true. well i suppose if you really want to get into your course that bad and you are prepared to spend another year at school, then maybe you should repeat.
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There is no doubt repeating will be easier and less stressful, resulting in a higher ATAR.
The reality is... in the end no one gives a rats about what you got, and neither will you.
"i got 99.95, but i repeated" does not sound impressive at all.
Nothing worse than come 13th december 2011 when you make a hole in the wall because you're exactly where you were a year before.
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But then I guess it's easier to internally transfer to Law than getting 98.
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And also... next year when your friends (in uni) call you up asking if you wanna come out and have fun, you respond with
"nah i cant, gotta study for year 12 exams"
Think about it :P
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But then I guess it's easier to internally transfer to Law than getting 98.
depends on the person.
let's say i got 98 this year, i could fairly easily push it up a few increments to get the score required for law by just working hard at let's say two subjects and smashing them, and having heaps of free time unlike uni which is more work than just two vce subjects to push up your enter.
but if i got 90 this year, it would require a lot more work than if i already had 98, may have to do more than just 2 subjects to get it, so i'd probably find it easier to transfer across.
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Hmmmm can someone give me advice as well? :P
The reason that I want to repeat is because I'm not doing method, and in order to get into my course, I can either repeat and get a higher ATAR, or do MTH1010 at Monash and transfer there later.
In your case, i would probably repeat and just do 2 subjects. Methods + something you like. It's not a loss because you WILL get in with 100% certainty.
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Only your friends would know...
Everyone else in your cohort will not know a thing
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This thread pretty much goes through it, if you want to know peoples ideas and all the perils/ advantages of repeating - http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,28277.0.html
Generally theres not many actual disadvantages to repeating, emotional/cbf/i hate this VCE hell/my mates will be out getting wasted in uni comes into play into that decision though.
Your score can't actually get any lower, that is a guarantee.
It will raise but what if it doesnt raise up to what you need? Theres where the trouble is.
If it doesn't get as high as you need, you've basically spent another year in year 12 for nothing.
If you think its the best idea and you are fairly certain you can get to the required score realistically, then i think you should do it. (Eg. If someone got 60 first time around, it'd be quiet a jump for them to get 98 second time... if you got 96 and needed 98, repeating would probably work)
However, the other option of moving onto uni is a better one i reckon.
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Well, the thing is...
I don't think I'm going to get above 95+ which is the required score to get into Monash (I'm 16). And internal transfer is much easier then say, going to UoM and applying for an external transfer. What I am hoping to get is above 95+ of course, but I could just easily repeat because I'm 2/1 years younger than my general cohort.
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Well, the thing is...
I don't think I'm going to get above 95+ which is the required score to get into Monash (I'm 16). And internal transfer is much easier then say, going to UoM and applying for an external transfer. What I am hoping to get is above 95+ of course, but I could just easily repeat because I'm 2/1 years younger than my general cohort.
I'm so jealous of you.
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Well, the thing is...
I don't think I'm going to get above 95+ which is the required score to get into Monash (I'm 16). And internal transfer is much easier then say, going to UoM and applying for an external transfer. What I am hoping to get is above 95+ of course, but I could just easily repeat because I'm 2/1 years younger than my general cohort.
I'm so jealous of you.
LOL don't be, asian parents suck =\
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Well, the thing is...
I don't think I'm going to get above 95+ which is the required score to get into Monash (I'm 16). And internal transfer is much easier then say, going to UoM and applying for an external transfer. What I am hoping to get is above 95+ of course, but I could just easily repeat because I'm 2/1 years younger than my general cohort.
I'm so jealous of you.
LOL don't be, asian parents suck =\
I wish my Asian parents were more Asian and push me harder when I was young. xD
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Well, the thing is...
I don't think I'm going to get above 95+ which is the required score to get into Monash (I'm 16). And internal transfer is much easier then say, going to UoM and applying for an external transfer. What I am hoping to get is above 95+ of course, but I could just easily repeat because I'm 2/1 years younger than my general cohort.
I generally think in your situation it'd probably be better to just go to uni.
Unless you really dont want to spend a year in something else...
What atar do you honestly think you will get?
(haha i wish my parents pushed me, i might actually get something done..)
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Honestly? Low 90's right now. :\ Unrealistically? 95+ Worst case scenario? low 80's
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Ok, well you seem like a pretty bright person, if you got like 92-93 i reckon if you tried you could get over 98 fairly easily by picking subjects you are capable at or redoing ones you let down (youll know most of the stuff so youll do rather well).
What do you think held you back from getting the score you wanted?
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Ok, well you seem like a pretty bright person, if you got like 92-93 i reckon if you tried you could get over 98 fairly easily by picking subjects you are capable at or redoing ones you let down (youll know most of the stuff so youll do rather well).
What do you think held you back from getting the score you wanted?
My midyears and Maths Methods scores LOL, not going to get above 40/37 for those subjects.
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Honestly? Low 90's right now. :\ Unrealistically? 95+ Worst case scenario? low 80's
Same. :/
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Honestly? Low 90's right now. :\ Unrealistically? 95+ Worst case scenario? low 80's
lol, same.
Hi-5! =D
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Just wait til 13th dec... then choose to apply for subjects or go into uni. atar is too unpredictable
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Just wait til 13th dec... then choose to apply for subjects or go into uni. atar is too unpredictable
Next year is ATAR yeah? What's the difference?
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Just wait til 13th dec... then choose to apply for subjects or go into uni. atar is too unpredictable
Next year is ATAR yeah? What's the difference?
Name and nothing else
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If I repeat in the same school, the teachers and year 11 would be like.... wtf o.O
Why would you repeat at a school?
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Why not do straight commerce and just try to transfer each year? At least you are making progress on your degree, you get to see whether you like the subjects or not etc.
I think if you get a HD average you can transfer internally into law without too much trouble. A lot of people I know transferred into law second year. Also if you work as hard as you'd have to work doing another year of year 12, you really shouldn't have that much trouble getting a HD average on the first year commerce subjects...
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Yeah, like i said before probably not a good idea to repeat unless you really want to, lynt sums it up rather well.
I'd just go to uni if i were you, forget about repeating waste of time
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Why not do straight commerce and just try to transfer each year? At least you are making progress on your degree, you get to see whether you like the subjects or not etc.
I think if you get a HD average you can transfer internally into law without too much trouble. A lot of people I know transferred into law second year. Also if you work as hard as you'd have to work doing another year of year 12, you really shouldn't have that much trouble getting a HD average on the first year commerce subjects...
Straight commerce at UoM? Isn't external transfer harder then internal transfer? Also, if I apply for Monash the 95+ rule for me to enter still applies.
But yeah, I'll just see how. Thanks a lot guys =]
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Why not do straight commerce and just try to transfer each year? At least you are making progress on your degree, you get to see whether you like the subjects or not etc.
I think if you get a HD average you can transfer internally into law without too much trouble. A lot of people I know transferred into law second year. Also if you work as hard as you'd have to work doing another year of year 12, you really shouldn't have that much trouble getting a HD average on the first year commerce subjects...
Straight commerce at UoM? Isn't external transfer harder then internal transfer? Also, if I apply for Monash the 95+ rule for me to enter still applies.
But yeah, I'll just see how. Thanks a lot guys =]
Okay so it seems you're worried about not being able to get a 95 ATAR. However look at it this way, you now know what type of ATAR score you need, hence now is the time to put in all the effort such that you can get that score. Who cares what sac scores you got, the biggest influence on your score will be your exams. You've got one whole month before exams start. Use it wisely, spend this whole month studying incredibly hard and you'll save yourself that extra year of study. You'll enjoy uni much more than year 12 because it's specialised to what you like plus the lifestyle is quite fun at times.
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Why not do straight commerce and just try to transfer each year? At least you are making progress on your degree, you get to see whether you like the subjects or not etc.
I think if you get a HD average you can transfer internally into law without too much trouble. A lot of people I know transferred into law second year. Also if you work as hard as you'd have to work doing another year of year 12, you really shouldn't have that much trouble getting a HD average on the first year commerce subjects...
Straight commerce at UoM? Isn't external transfer harder then internal transfer? Also, if I apply for Monash the 95+ rule for me to enter still applies.
But yeah, I'll just see how. Thanks a lot guys =]
Straight commerce @ Monash and transfer to Law or commerce/law in the second year.
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Oh yeah one more thing...
This year, I've been aiming to become an accountant or anything in the commerce field, but is it really what I want to become? Or is it just the fact I don't have other choice because i'm not doing any sciences?
If I repeat and do physics, I'm pretty much guarantee to get into science @ Melbourne as I only need to meet the prerequisite. (Unless I screw up my end of year exams REALLY badly, in that case, I might as well repeat..)
Anyway Syao don't repeat, just do commerce @ Monash and transfer to commerce/law in the second year. :P
Hmm, well I'm just going to wait and see till the end of the year.
But if you don't think that becoming an accountant is what you want, why don't you just go into uni, and then apply for a transfer?