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Archived Discussion => 2010 => End-of-year exams => Exam Discussion => Victoria => English & ESL => Topic started by: nemolala on November 01, 2010, 11:13:19 pm
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ok so how much do the examiners take handwriting to consideration?
like i mean begin neatly but get worse along the way?
so i have hand issues where my stupid hand decides to "get tired" real quickly, not even writing a decent amount and will start to ache and the neatness spirals to a messy scribble.
ok i dont have neat writing anyways but if try i have to sit there and write like a snail, which will get me no where because i will forget what i want to say and waste a hell Lotta time
so how important is my writing?
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I wrote underneath my last essay , please dont mind my handwriting (=
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My ex-tutor had notoriously messy handwriting, and I mean HORRIBLE like he didn't even have fingers. But that didn't stop him from scoring 50 in English :)
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I wrote underneath my last essay , please dont mind my handwriting (=
oh man i shoulda done that!!!!!!
brownie points :P
the irony is i reakon they probably couldnt read that note );
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lol but i heard you cant write anything to the examiner? i was thinking to write a note too to pardon the writing..
oh well then bad luck its not my fault i got the messy crap
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I think they may be more predisposed to giving you a worse mark, but if what you write is good, you should be fine.
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From one of my crazy teachers who swears he is a marker:
"They can't mark you down, but when it's 2am, and you're on your 4th cup of coffee and you just yelled at the wife to let you mark in peace, what would you rather see? Chicken scrawl or neat writing?"
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From one of my crazy teachers who swears he is a marker:
"They can't mark you down, but when it's 2am, and you're on your 4th cup of coffee and you just yelled at the wife to let you mark in peace, what would you rather see? Chicken scrawl or neat writing?"
LOL !
In all seriousness, it isn't supposed to affect their marking but if they have to scrutinise every second word the fluency of your piece will seem to go down and hence potentially lowering your mark..
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From one of my crazy teachers who swears he is a marker:
"They can't mark you down, but when it's 2am, and you're on your 4th cup of coffee and you just yelled at the wife to let you mark in peace, what would you rather see? Chicken scrawl or neat writing?"
LOL !
In all seriousness, it isn't supposed to affect their marking but if they have to scrutinise every second word the fluency of your piece will seem to go down and hence potentially lowering your mark..
yep i see...thats so true...but no solution
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From one of my crazy teachers who swears he is a marker:
"They can't mark you down, but when it's 2am, and you're on your 4th cup of coffee and you just yelled at the wife to let you mark in peace, what would you rather see? Chicken scrawl or neat writing?"
Perfectly put!!
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or if its simply incoherent
they wont be able to read it at all
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or if its simply incoherent
they wont be able to read it at all
but i mean isnt handwriting genetic? so what can i do?
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but i mean isnt handwriting genetic? so what can i do?
I don't think it is... I've got awful handwriting, but I've been working on it. Trying to write with my shoulder and forearm instead of my wrist.
The only thing to worry about when it comes to messy handwriting would be like a few people have mentioned, the detrimental effect it could have on the fluency of your essay. You'd hate to have the markers stopping every five seconds when reading your essay to try and figure out what a word is >.<
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but i mean isnt handwriting genetic? so what can i do?
I don't think it is... I've got awful handwriting, but I've been working on it. Trying to write with my shoulder and forearm instead of my wrist.
The only thing to worry about when it comes to messy handwriting would be like a few people have mentioned, the detrimental effect it could have on the fluency of your essay. You'd hate to have the markers stopping every five seconds when reading your essay to try and figure out what a word is >.<
lol true...but i do that then my whole arm starts aching.....how can you write in pain?
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lol true...but i do that then my whole arm starts aching.....how can you write in pain?
Yeah that's what gets me :/
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i got told as long as it is legible, it shouldn't matter, because examiners generally get quite good at messy handwriting. also, if you have messy handwriting i've had several teachers tell me to write with big letters so it is at least easy to read. something to consider...
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i got told as long as it is legible, it shouldn't matter, because examiners generally get quite good at messy handwriting. also, if you have messy handwriting i've had several teachers tell me to write with big letters so it is at least easy to read. something to consider...
oh ok thanks thats actually a good idea.....never thought of that
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One of my mates gets to use a computer because he has shit handwriting.
No mental disability, no hand-eye co-ordination impairment, no hand injuries, no religious ceremonies which don't allow him to use pens on that specific day. Just straight up messy handwriting.
He's gotten A+ on all his typed up SACS, and A and Bs on his handwritten SACs.
Fair? Definitely not. But I think that is a rough indication of the impact of handwriting. (I refuse to acknowledge that his typed up pieces may have been better quality).
Also, they don't use notepad as I had thought. Microsoft word, thesaurus, spell-check, paperclip helping dude and all ! :(
Also fancy nice titles!
Not fair, sorry I just have to have a whinge about it!
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One of my mates gets to use a computer because he has shit handwriting.
No mental disability, no hand-eye co-ordination impairment, no hand injuries, no religious ceremonies which don't allow him to use pens on that specific day. Just straight up messy handwriting.
He's gotten A+ on all his typed up SACS, and A and Bs on his handwritten SACs.
Fair? Definitely not. But I think that is a rough indication of the impact of handwriting. (I refuse to acknowledge that his typed up pieces may have been better quality).
Also, they don't use notepad as I had thought. Microsoft word, thesaurus, spell-check, paperclip helping dude and all ! :(
Also fancy nice titles!
Not fair, sorry I just have to have a whinge about it!
We had a kid with cerebral palsy (I think? definitely a hand-eye coordination problem) a few years ago who used a computer for exams. Not vce exams though, just, like, year 10-11. he used notepad...
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i used a computer for my biol mid year and the GAT last year. Was intense. had internet access lol
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One of my mates gets to use a computer because he has shit handwriting.
No mental disability, no hand-eye co-ordination impairment, no hand injuries, no religious ceremonies which don't allow him to use pens on that specific day. Just straight up messy handwriting.
He's gotten A+ on all his typed up SACS, and A and Bs on his handwritten SACs.
Fair? Definitely not. But I think that is a rough indication of the impact of handwriting. (I refuse to acknowledge that his typed up pieces may have been better quality).
Also, they don't use notepad as I had thought. Microsoft word, thesaurus, spell-check, paperclip helping dude and all ! Sad
Also fancy nice titles!
Not fair, sorry I just have to have a whinge about it!
That's crap.
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i used a computer for my biol mid year and the GAT last year. Was intense. had internet access lol
What why?
And internet access :o ... that's why you did well... ::)
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I broke my writing hand like a week before the exam playing footy.
And yeah, i was expecting to have to use notpad or something, but nup, i was seated up the back by myself with a laptop with word open, the exam guy also offered to sit with me and colour in my multi choice sheet but i just did it with my other hand.
Yeah, our exam poeple are a bunch of oldies who have no clue, so i probably could have used the internet but i didnt really feel the need to, and i thought i was already at an advantage being able to write half a page for a 3 mark question with only 5 lines available :P
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Haha that sucks.
Score with the typing though, so much better.. Especially if you can type fast =P
I wonder what they'd do for maths... It's not like they're gonna make you try and do that on word.
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Haha that sucks.
Score with the typing though, so much better.. Especially if you can type fast =P
I wonder what they'd do for maths... It's not like they're gonna make you try and do that on word.
hop on the latex.
I think maths there is nothing you can do
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Yeah.. but how many people know latex? And how many even here could confidently use it for assessment?
Wait, I just realised that with a broken hand you won't be typing very fast .. xD
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you probably get extra time.
A kid just this year has been getting special attention for all his exams. He got an extra 20 minutes writing time and a 15 minute food break in the english exam. He also gets 15 minutes more writing time for all his other exams.
For maths, i'd assume they'd set you up with a guy that you could dictate to or something.... they were planning on doing that for me with biol, but i just figured i'd be better off typing with one hand and my index finger on my broken hand.
VCAA are pretty generous when it comes to this stuff.
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you probably get extra time.
A kid just this year has been getting special attention for all his exams. He got an extra 20 minutes writing time and a 15 minute food break in the english exam. He also gets 15 minutes more writing time for all his other exams.
For maths, i'd assume they'd set you up with a guy that you could dictate to or something.... they were planning on doing that for me with biol, but i just figured i'd be better off typing with one hand and my index finger on my broken hand.
VCAA are pretty generous when it comes to this stuff.
damn thats lucky
i wish i can type....esp for english since it seems that i always get ideas wen typing rather then sitting down writing
and since im a fast typer then i wont forget what im bout to write
thats another huge problem
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One of my mates gets to use a computer because he has shit handwriting.
No mental disability, no hand-eye co-ordination impairment, no hand injuries, no religious ceremonies which don't allow him to use pens on that specific day. Just straight up messy handwriting.
He's gotten A+ on all his typed up SACS, and A and Bs on his handwritten SACs.
Fair? Definitely not. But I think that is a rough indication of the impact of handwriting. (I refuse to acknowledge that his typed up pieces may have been better quality).
Also, they don't use notepad as I had thought. Microsoft word, thesaurus, spell-check, paperclip helping dude and all ! :(
Also fancy nice titles!
Not fair, sorry I just have to have a whinge about it!
It's medical with him. He told me.
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i used whiteout in my exam whould i lose marks by using whiteout?
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One of my mates gets to use a computer because he has shit handwriting.
No mental disability, no hand-eye co-ordination impairment, no hand injuries, no religious ceremonies which don't allow him to use pens on that specific day. Just straight up messy handwriting.
He's gotten A+ on all his typed up SACS, and A and Bs on his handwritten SACs.
Fair? Definitely not. But I think that is a rough indication of the impact of handwriting. (I refuse to acknowledge that his typed up pieces may have been better quality).
Also, they don't use notepad as I had thought. Microsoft word, thesaurus, spell-check, paperclip helping dude and all ! :(
Also fancy nice titles!
Not fair, sorry I just have to have a whinge about it!
It's medical with him. He told me.
It's not, I've asked him, I don't know if you're talking about the same guy. There's 3 in this years year 12 that have that access.
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This year a kid in my year leval Broke both of his arms before the further maths exams. He got to dictate it to an assesor I don't know if he got extra time...
My Handwriting is terrible which in part is handy because my spelling is too so whenever i can't spell something i scible something that looks like it :P
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One of my mates gets to use a computer because he has shit handwriting.
No mental disability, no hand-eye co-ordination impairment, no hand injuries, no religious ceremonies which don't allow him to use pens on that specific day. Just straight up messy handwriting.
He's gotten A+ on all his typed up SACS, and A and Bs on his handwritten SACs.
Fair? Definitely not. But I think that is a rough indication of the impact of handwriting. (I refuse to acknowledge that his typed up pieces may have been better quality).
Also, they don't use notepad as I had thought. Microsoft word, thesaurus, spell-check, paperclip helping dude and all ! :(
Also fancy nice titles!
Not fair, sorry I just have to have a whinge about it!
It's medical with him. He told me.
It's not, I've asked him, I don't know if you're talking about the same guy. There's 3 in this years year 12 that have that access.
Must be different guy then
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i've always had bad handwriting!
hope the assessors read, but i cbf caring about it haha
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From one of my crazy teachers who swears he is a marker:
"They can't mark you down, but when it's 2am, and you're on your 4th cup of coffee and you just yelled at the wife to let you mark in peace, what would you rather see? Chicken scrawl or neat writing?"
Actually the examiners aren't allowed to mark the essays at home. My teacher is an assessor and she told us that all English examiners have to go to an office in Coburg and mark them there under strict conditions and certain times during the day.
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i used whiteout in my exam whould i lose marks by using whiteout?
thats a breach of vcaa rules...
could possibly fail
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why don't they want whiteout?
also, is it true yoy get marked down for handwriting? someone told me that happens in english, but I kinda find that hard to believe
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why don't they want whiteout?
also, is it true yoy get marked down for handwriting someone told me that happens in english, but I kinda find that hard to believe
you cant get marked down for messy handwriting... but if they cant read any of it... well then theres problems.. but it would have to be absolutely diabolical for that to occur
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why don't they want whiteout?
For security reasons, and they don't want you to rub things out, better to just put a line through.
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Is it to do with allergies or something too? or whatever the reason is for school kids.
From one of my crazy teachers who swears he is a marker:
"They can't mark you down, but when it's 2am, and you're on your 4th cup of coffee and you just yelled at the wife to let you mark in peace, what would you rather see? Chicken scrawl or neat writing?"
Actually the examiners aren't allowed to mark the essays at home. My teacher is an assessor and she told us that all English examiners have to go to an office in Coburg and mark them there under strict conditions and certain times during the day.
Possibly, he is a BM and Legal assesor so it may be different. He talks a lot of shit though.
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dictate an exam for over an hour? boy would that get frustrating!
I scribe for ppl with disabilities in uni exams which go for like 4 hours, it's not that bad, just like writing the exam yourself except you're saying it out loud first
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Is it to do with allergies or something too? or whatever the reason is for school kids.
From one of my crazy teachers who swears he is a marker:
"They can't mark you down, but when it's 2am, and you're on your 4th cup of coffee and you just yelled at the wife to let you mark in peace, what would you rather see? Chicken scrawl or neat writing?"
Actually the examiners aren't allowed to mark the essays at home. My teacher is an assessor and she told us that all English examiners have to go to an office in Coburg and mark them there under strict conditions and certain times during the day.
Possibly, he is a BM and Legal assesor so it may be different. He talks a lot of shit though.
English is marked at VCAA in Coburg; the rest of the papers can be marked at home.