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Title: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: pete_owntbychem on May 17, 2008, 09:08:14 pm
this may be a really stupid question.... im sort of looking for inspiration?  :uglystupid2:

but seriously.... I can't study
This year I have been going well in every subject (except chem) and I know I could do a lot better... but I just can;t study.... every day I tell myself Ive got to do work, but I get home after school and just go on the computer and waste time.... and before I know it, its like 10PM... so I quickly finish off homework but never actually study, I'm worried about next year when everything is going to actually count more

Can someone give me advice, how can I stop procastonating....... So far I've deleted all my games but I still find ways to distract myself EG - internet... etc

How can I just sit at my desk and DO SOME WORK
how do you guys do it

please help
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: squance on May 17, 2008, 09:17:10 pm
Hmm....
In VCE, I used to force myself to study...by depriving myself of tv and internet and reading manga until I had done at least 2 hours of study (that's excluding homework and sac prep I had to do for school....)

But now in uni....welll...im procrastinating to the max!! Which is bad....but I can't help it....
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: ice_blockie on May 17, 2008, 09:22:01 pm
Don't worry it's not only you who finds it relli hard to get to work. Everyone gets sick of the routine some time or another. The key is to realise that you are in fact procrastinating. Try some of the following, they work for me:


AHG! Procrastination. Don't we all love it??? I think I waste ages each day procrastinating (well it includes getting home and sitting in front of the tv until its almost dinner and quickly doing 15 mins of hw out of guilt...LOL.

Anyway, enough said of my personal disorder, here's 2 weirdass procrastination strategies that WORKED!!! I got my homework done and study amazingly finished. (before the novelty wore off).

1. The (10+2)*5 technique. This is for people who have REALLY low attention span. Its plastered all over the internet but heres the lowdown. Spend 10 minutes intensively doing work and then spend 2 minutes for down time (i.e. going for a stretch, a quick drink or snack, or some activity unrelated to what you're doing...maybe a sodoku!). Then spend another 10 minutes doing work and followed by 2 minutes break. 10 minutes plus 2 equals 12. 12 times 5 equals one hour! DONE! NOTE: You must be ON TIME.

Best used with timer (gives you motivation to finish before timer does too :). This technique attempts to reduce amount of time day dreaming because you are continuously under the pump. Maybe not so good for long periods of time but good for when you have a VERY BUSY schedule and you need to get things done.

If your attention span is not as low, adjust where necessary. If you think work time needs to be more change it to maybe (15+5)*3 and so on.

2. The Pendulum technique. ( not real name...i forgot it :( ) This is for people who get bored with doing one thing for a extended period. Choose 3 activities and write them done on a list. For example:

1. Read 4 chapters of 1984
2. Finish 20 methods questions
3. Clean up bedroom (its an example okay!)

After them write down the numbers 5, 10 and 20.

What you do is for 5 mins do activity 1. After exactly five minutes, STOP. STOP IMMEDIATELY. Cross out the number 5 next to activity one (yay I reached my first goal) Then go on to activity 2 for 5 minutes. Then STOP and do activity 3 for 5 minutes. Then go back to activity for 10 minutes and so forth for 20 minutes.

The aim of this technique to gradually increase the amount of time you spend, reducing the chance of getting bored easily. If you feel numbers need changing go ahead. But you must keep the same the idea that the time is increasing gradually. Do not have chunks of time like 1 hour then 2 hours then 3 lmao.

These techniques are provided here as a guide only for those who need a structured study session. If you don't need them don't use them!!! Each person knows how long they can concentrate for, so no one else can tell you that 50 minutes is the best amount of time for a study session as opposed to a 20 minute session. Anyway...signing off.

Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: millstone on May 18, 2008, 03:00:01 pm
haha you are me! whenever i have a sac the next day, i'll be like SHIT i have a sac but it'll be like midnight so i'll stay up all night and study i am so bad at studying, but i still have almost perfect marks so far

i only ever study when i have a sac and i always have overdue homework, but hopefully starting from next week i'll start doing work and year 12 will be smooth sailing from now on
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: elaine on May 18, 2008, 03:07:09 pm
this is cool, that's like me as well. i can't even work effectively in my frees, i don't 'study study' until the night before a SAC and i'm always behind in every subject (except english because we don't get that much homework). but i'm still getting good marks, so it's good...for now.
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: clinton_09 on May 18, 2008, 04:10:05 pm
haha thats the same here with my frees i never use them efficiently occassionaly i might do something but that is rare. I only study when i have a sac and i try to do it a few days before.
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: RD on May 18, 2008, 07:18:51 pm
yeah i likewise here, only really do any work the night before.
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: droodles on May 18, 2008, 07:25:03 pm
it's not like accumulating someone's study habits is going to get you a good ENTER. everyone is different, you need to work out what your weakness subject is and work them in order of priority.
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: beezy4eva on May 18, 2008, 08:23:58 pm
bribe yourself with chocolate to do study
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: polky on May 18, 2008, 09:08:10 pm
I mostly stay at school after school has ended and make myself finish all (or most of) my homework.  This works well for me because it is very quiet in school after everyone has left so I can concentrate better and there are also less distractions (like no internet).  Also it means I don't have to bring as many books home, which is a plus for me!

Other than that, I don't really do that much homework at home. 
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: dcc on May 18, 2008, 09:26:31 pm
I do little->no homework most of the time, just the occasional practice exam.
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: BA22 on May 19, 2008, 04:52:07 pm
I mostly stay at school after school has ended and make myself finish all (or most of) my homework.  This works well for me because it is very quiet in school after everyone has left so I can concentrate better and there are also less distractions (like no internet).  Also it means I don't have to bring as many books home, which is a plus for me!

Other than that, I don't really do that much homework at home. 

I did this occasioanlly, but other students were there and we'd just have a relaxed discussion over stuff that was bugging us.

As general advice, i advise people to seek out peers who are talented at subjects, or a certain section of those subjects and just talk about any issues you are having, or just to revise and priortise subjects of importance for further study. You'd be suprised how well it can work
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: Chocoholic on May 19, 2008, 06:24:27 pm
bribe yourself with chocolate to do study

lol I've done this soo many times but I just end up eating the chocolate...so much for self control!! I try, but the chocolate looks a zillion times better when you know you can't have it.
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: gfb on May 19, 2008, 10:48:18 pm
bribe yourself with chocolate to do study

lol Chocolate :P. I bribe myself with Counter-Strike :) or any other pc game.

It works :).
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: Hughie on May 20, 2008, 09:34:30 pm
classical music (its not lame). I have Beethoven's 7th Symphony on repeat whilst studying. I'm normally a rock/rap kinda guy but this gets me in the groove...
 
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: /0 on May 20, 2008, 09:49:55 pm
classical music (its not lame). I have Beethoven's 7th Symphony on repeat whilst studying. I'm normally a rock/rap kinda guy but this gets me in the groove...

Yeah I think classical music is meant to stimulate the brain or something. At the moment I've got Vivaldi's The Seasons, Goldberg variations, and Holst's The Planets on repeat.
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: droodles on May 20, 2008, 09:50:56 pm
did YOU KNOW?

piano music creates a soothing environment for working
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: Hughie on May 20, 2008, 10:06:01 pm
classical music (its not lame). I have Beethoven's 7th Symphony on repeat whilst studying. I'm normally a rock/rap kinda guy but this gets me in the groove...

Yeah I think classical music is meant to stimulate the brain or something. At the moment I've got Vivaldi's The Seasons, Goldberg variations, and Holst's The Planets on repeat.

i will dowload them (legally of course) lol
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: dcc on May 20, 2008, 10:08:03 pm
On the point of Classical Music, the eminent child psychologist Dr. Michael Carr Greg (or whatever his name is) said that the most effective piece of music to study to (which was a clear winner) was Pachelbel's Canon.
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: /0 on May 20, 2008, 10:28:14 pm
classical music (its not lame). I have Beethoven's 7th Symphony on repeat whilst studying. I'm normally a rock/rap kinda guy but this gets me in the groove...

Yeah I think classical music is meant to stimulate the brain or something. At the moment I've got Vivaldi's The Seasons, Goldberg variations, and Holst's The Planets on repeat.

i will dowload them (legally of course) lol

The Seasons and Golberg Variations are baroque though, just in case you don't really like that type of music (after a hwile I eventually get tired of it). The Planets is awesome though.
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: RD on May 21, 2008, 02:32:10 pm
did YOU KNOW?

piano music creates a soothing environment for working
agreed, its awesome.
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: AppleThief on May 21, 2008, 04:13:38 pm
The Seasons and Golberg Variations are baroque though, just in case you don't really like that type of music (after a hwile I eventually get tired of it). The Planets is awesome though.
I'd also really advise against baroque music because it's very busy. One major feature of baroque music is that it has multiple lines of melodic interest going at the same time, so it would be quite distracting.

Apparently, Gregorian chants are one of the best things to study to. I just can't remember why.

If I study to classical music (which I haven't done at all this year), I mainly listen to gentle, single-instrument pieces such as Chopin's preludes/nocturnes.
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: beezy4eva on May 21, 2008, 05:36:51 pm
Pachelbel's Canon is supposed to be the most soothing. It's also one of the easiest to play
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: /0 on May 21, 2008, 07:16:36 pm
Hmmm anyone tried working with trance music?
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: Glockmeister on May 21, 2008, 08:52:14 pm
I happen to have the complete works of Beethoven, as played by Claudio Arrau on my iTunes.

Also, I occasionally play Miserere by Allegri, a late-Renaissance piece (particularity towards exams), which is pretty famous, and has a very interesting history behind it (you used to get ex-communicated from the Catholic Church for trying to transcribe it down). The first line, I feel happen to be pretty significant

Miserere mei, Deus: secundum magnam misericordiam tuam.

Which translates to

Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy loving kindness.
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: mark_alec on May 21, 2008, 10:49:27 pm
Hmmm anyone tried working with trance music?
Yes, but psymbient is better. I *highly* recommend Shpongle.
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: doboman on May 22, 2008, 12:00:25 am
Hymns are the way to go imo
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: tia on May 22, 2008, 07:42:43 pm
Music will help some people to study and hinder others, therefore it is important to consider what works for you. For example words will distract some people, but not others. Same with types of music - there is no type of music that is best for everyone.
Title: Re: How do you study???? .... advice please
Post by: lishan515 on May 24, 2008, 03:28:55 pm
http://www.kongregate.com/games/Reflexive/music-catch

Yes I know I have posted it elsewhere but I thought it was somewhat related to this thread
Music as relaxing and mentally stimulating for study sessions - in an odd way I think that this game would have a similar effect if you were to play it just before a study session or if you have a really low attention span intermittently. It is a oddly soothing and relaxing game.