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Title: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: VCEMan94 on February 09, 2011, 04:15:10 pm
Hey guys,

Just wondering if any of you had any experience with redoing a subject done in Year 11 in Year 12.
I did Methods last year and only ended up with a 37 raw, so I'm contemplating whether or not to repeat it as I'm looking to get a 90+ ATAR score.
Do you think this a good idea? :/ or would I just be wasting time that could spent doing better on other subjects?
I'm also doing French, Spesh, Chem, Physics, English and Uni Maths this year, so I guess the preparation that I would do for the Methods exam would be less.

I know its really a personal choice but I'm having a hard time deciding, so any advice would be helpful
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: ben_ess12 on February 09, 2011, 04:21:55 pm
Isn't a 37 raw rounded to a 40+
And if u get the same in your other subjects and a 5 for uni subject that should get you 90+ shouldn't it?
Use the ATAR Calc to check :)
Title: Re: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: iNerd on February 09, 2011, 04:24:58 pm
Depends if you like the subject or not.

If i get <45 in Psych I'd repeat.
Title: Re: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: iamtom on February 09, 2011, 04:30:05 pm
Depends if you like the subject or not.

If i get <45 in Psych I'd repeat.

Just going to throw out that idea, the school won't let you repeat a 3/4 subject if you get above 30 raw.
Hey guys,

Just wondering if any of you had any experience with redoing a subject done in Year 11 in Year 12.
I did Methods last year and only ended up with a 37 raw, so I'm contemplating whether or not to repeat it as I'm looking to get a 90+ ATAR score.
Do you think this a good idea? :/ or would I just be wasting time that could spent doing better on other subjects?
I'm also doing French, Spesh, Chem, Physics, English and Uni Maths this year, so I guess the preparation that I would do for the Methods exam would be less.

I know its really a personal choice but I'm having a hard time deciding, so any advice would be helpful
Thanks :)

I think if you redo a subject, you lose 10% of your final grade don't you? Or was that if you redid VCE...?

In any case, with all those subjects, you could get way above 90 for an ATAR 8D.
Title: Re: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: iNerd on February 09, 2011, 04:32:22 pm
Oh wells...won't get <45 then -.-
Title: Re: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: Zafaraaaa on February 09, 2011, 04:33:28 pm
One subject (especially since it's methods) won't bring your score down, and well done anyway because 37 is an awesome score! :) Depends whether you think you can cope with methods again this year? But if I were you, I wouldn't repeat, I'd put more time into an awesome score for english (the key to a 90+ score) and my other subjects :)
Title: Re: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: iamtom on February 09, 2011, 04:35:17 pm
That's always the best way to go ;)

So, a 37 in Methods scales to around ~42. ATARcalc is down for me, so I can't add up your scores but generally speaking if you get above 32 for all your subjects you should get a 90+ easily...
Title: Re: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: eeps on February 09, 2011, 04:47:47 pm
There is no penalty if you re-do a subject again. In my opinion, I don't think you should repeat it. Doing Mathematical Methods (CAS) again would increase your workload even more - with 5 subjects and a University Enhancement subject already. All your subjects that you're doing this year scale up quite a lot, so I wouldn't worry about repeating Mathematical Methods (CAS); 37 is still a good score. You'd really be wasting your time if you repeated it; move on and work even harder this year!
Title: Re: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: vea on February 09, 2011, 05:12:37 pm
I would strongly recommend AGAINST it. You are already doing 6 subjects in year 12- one more than usual, doing 7 subjects in a single year would most likely end in catastrophe.
Title: Re: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: iamtom on February 09, 2011, 05:22:48 pm
There is no penalty if you re-do a subject again.
Must be redoing your VCE then, I know you can lose 10% of your mark somewhere...

In any case, no point in repeating. 37 is a solid foundation ;D
Title: Re: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: Romperait on February 09, 2011, 06:29:42 pm
Don't bother, if you were able to get 37 in methods and you consider that to be a bad score, then just focus on other subjects and dominate them instead.
Title: Re: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: berryy on February 09, 2011, 07:01:25 pm
i wouldnt do it if i was you
Title: Re: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: pi on February 09, 2011, 07:03:47 pm
Repeating would be extremely boring. I also wouldn't advise Uni Maths if your score for Methods was a 37...
Title: Re: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: azngirl456 on February 09, 2011, 07:04:47 pm
There is no penalty if you re-do a subject again.
Must be redoing your VCE then, I know you can lose 10% of your mark somewhere...

In any case, no point in repeating. 37 is a solid foundation ;D

I heard about that 10% rule from somewhere...but I think that might be a myth. Because if you decide to repeat VCe, they'll just take the higher scores, regardless of which year you took them in.

37 raw scales up to around 40 something? I wouldnt repeat, just accept it, move on and focus on other subjects
Title: Re: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: Ghost! on February 09, 2011, 08:41:26 pm
Just following the general trend here, don't run the risk of getting bored/lazy and stick with your 42 scaled.
Title: Re: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: iamtom on February 10, 2011, 07:18:06 pm
There is no penalty if you re-do a subject again.
Must be redoing your VCE then, I know you can lose 10% of your mark somewhere...

In any case, no point in repeating. 37 is a solid foundation ;D

I heard about that 10% rule from somewhere...but I think that might be a myth. Because if you decide to repeat VCe, they'll just take the higher scores, regardless of which year you took them in.

37 raw scales up to around 40 something? I wouldnt repeat, just accept it, move on and focus on other subjects

My mum did VCE not 8 years ago (in one year, mind you) and got 10% taken off of her final score.

She still got 88.
Title: Re: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: Romperait on February 10, 2011, 08:26:54 pm
I also wouldn't advise Uni Maths if your score for Methods was a 37...

Maybe a little too much advice? OP should do uni maths and be proud doing uni maths. Wish I could. =)
Title: Re: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: pi on February 10, 2011, 10:24:09 pm
I also wouldn't advise Uni Maths if your score for Methods was a 37...

Maybe a little too much advice? OP should do uni maths and be proud doing uni maths. Wish I could. =)

Just being realistic... But if the OP enjoys it, go for it!

However, if maximising the ATAR scores is the underlying issue (as stated by wanting 90+ ATAR)...
Title: Re: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: m@tty on February 10, 2011, 10:49:54 pm
A VCE score doesn't really mean all that much. And 37 in methods is quite good. Just to put it in perspective, people are accepted with low 30s sometimes. And for MUEP last year I personally know one of the "highest achievers" and he got 42 in methods the year prior..he says that he actually picked up ~5 marks on the second check of his methods papers, meaning that he could've gotten 37-39 - and he was the highest achiever. If you like maths/find it easy(some people do it purely for this reason) then do it and there's no reason you can't get 5.5 :)

Also, there is no penalty whatsoever for repeating anymore.
Title: Re: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: Ghost! on February 10, 2011, 10:52:10 pm
There is no penalty if you re-do a subject again.
Must be redoing your VCE then, I know you can lose 10% of your mark somewhere...

In any case, no point in repeating. 37 is a solid foundation ;D

I heard about that 10% rule from somewhere...but I think that might be a myth. Because if you decide to repeat VCe, they'll just take the higher scores, regardless of which year you took them in.

37 raw scales up to around 40 something? I wouldnt repeat, just accept it, move on and focus on other subjects

My mum did VCE not 8 years ago (in one year, mind you) and got 10% taken off of her final score.

She still got 88.

How could she have done it 8 years ago.. I'm probably just really tired, but doesn't that mean she was 8 when she had you?
Title: Re: Advice on re-doing a 3/4 subject
Post by: Romperait on February 10, 2011, 11:03:03 pm
There is no penalty if you re-do a subject again.
Must be redoing your VCE then, I know you can lose 10% of your mark somewhere...

In any case, no point in repeating. 37 is a solid foundation ;D

I heard about that 10% rule from somewhere...but I think that might be a myth. Because if you decide to repeat VCe, they'll just take the higher scores, regardless of which year you took them in.

37 raw scales up to around 40 something? I wouldnt repeat, just accept it, move on and focus on other subjects

My mum did VCE not 8 years ago (in one year, mind you) and got 10% taken off of her final score.

She still got 88.

How could she have done it 8 years ago.. I'm probably just really tired, but doesn't that mean she was 8 when she had you?

Might have gone back to school later?

A VCE score doesn't really mean all that much. And 37 in methods is quite good. Just to put it in perspective, people are accepted with low 30s some times. And for MUEP last year I personally know one of the "highest achiever" and he got 42 in methods the year prior..he says that he actually picked up ~5 marks on the second check of his methods papers, meaning that he could've gotten 37-39 - and he was the highest achiever. If you like maths/find it easy(some people do it purely for this reason) then do it and there's no reason you can't get 5.5 :)

Also, there is no penalty whatsoever for repeating anymore.

+1 =)