Use of outdated(?) examples

[kiddoes]

Hi all!
I've been trawling the internet to beef up my contemporary examples for essays, and I've found some really useful facts and statistics to quote from the 2011 census.
As the 2011 census is the most recently-taken one, is it still counted as an outdated source for statistics/examples?
Thanks 

[flares]

Hi all!
I've been trawling the internet to beef up my contemporary examples for essays, and I've found some really useful facts and statistics to quote from the 2011 census.
As the 2011 census is the most recently-taken one, is it still counted as an outdated source for statistics/examples?
Thanks 

I've been doing the same, and I'm kind of struggling to look for contemporary modern day examples for my essays as well.
If it is good, I think you should use it. But keep in mind, 'contemporary examples', so try to find examples from this year to incorporate into your essay. Use the 2011 one, but make sure the majority of the other examples you use are contemporary. That's how i'd do it.

[kiddoes]

I've been doing the same, and I'm kind of struggling to look for contemporary modern day examples for my essays as well.
If it is good, I think you should use it. But keep in mind, 'contemporary examples', so try to find examples from this year to incorporate into your essay. Use the 2011 one, but make sure the majority of the other examples you use are contemporary. That's how i'd do it.

Thanks! I will do that. It's more just facts to back up assumptions, like the fraction of immigrant families in Australia being approximately one in four as a way of expressing Australia's multicultural values and all that jazz.
If you're stuck for examples, have a look at some Q&A transcripts.
There was a really good one about a week ago on political language used about terrorism in Australia (especially by the government) - all things you can use for taboo avoidance/expression of attitudes.
(http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s4307494.htm <-- Transcript here for the above one.)

If you find ones about language they're goldmines for examples because you can quote them and the examples that they use. Win-win.

[dmitridr]

Hi all!
I've been trawling the internet to beef up my contemporary examples for essays, and I've found some really useful facts and statistics to quote from the 2011 census.
As the 2011 census is the most recently-taken one, is it still counted as an outdated source for statistics/examples?
Thanks 

Hey there!

Personally, you'll find contemporary examples are much easier to find for Unit 3 AOS 2 (and at times Unit 4 AOS 2), but it can generally be more difficult to find new examples of Australian colloquialisms (e.g. how often do we have a new 'mate' and a new 'no worries'?). That's why these body paragraphs may often seem a bit repetitive every year in the essay section. For generational slang and formal language, it is generally much easier to find modern examples (and by examples I don't mean linguist quotes!). For an essay to be excellent, it must be supported by both LINGUIST QUOTES and MODERN EXAMPLES, and not just either one.

To find examples, you need to be linguistically aware (if that makes sense?). You'll find that you'll pick up on things that other may not be able to explicitly see. For example, last week I noticed that PM Turnbull used 'Violent Extremism' to talk about the current terrorist attacks/threats (BY WHO?). By nominalising 'Extreme' to 'Extremism', Turnbull can remove the agent (Muslims?) and therefore create social harmony due to the prevention of Islamophobia.

I hope that makes sense

[kiddoes]

Hey there!

Personally, you'll find contemporary examples are much easier to find for Unit 3 AOS 2 (and at times Unit 4 AOS 2), but it can generally be more difficult to find new examples of Australian colloquialisms (e.g. how often do we have a new 'mate' and a new 'no worries'?). That's why these body paragraphs may often seem a bit repetitive every year in the essay section. For generational slang and formal language, it is generally much easier to find modern examples (and by examples I don't mean linguist quotes!). For an essay to be excellent, it must be supported by both LINGUIST QUOTES and MODERN EXAMPLES, and not just either one.

To find examples, you need to be linguistically aware (if that makes sense?). You'll find that you'll pick up on things that other may not be able to explicitly see. For example, last week I noticed that PM Turnbull used 'Violent Extremism' to talk about the current terrorist attacks/threats (BY WHO?). By nominalising 'Extreme' to 'Extremism', Turnbull can remove the agent (Muslims?) and therefore create social harmony due to the prevention of Islamophobia.

I hope that makes sense

Thanks Dmitri! You're a legend. 

Along PM Turnbull's lines, could you discuss Tony Jones' recent use of "ISIS sweet talkers” in regards to ISIS members as opposed to 'terrorists' or similar? He's intentionally avoiding mention of terrorist acts or extremism and instead focusing on a negative element that all groups agree is negative (i.e. recruitment of Australian children into their fold) - so he's playing to avoid taboo topics and create social cohesion.

[flares]

Hey there!

Personally, you'll find contemporary examples are much easier to find for Unit 3 AOS 2 (and at times Unit 4 AOS 2), but it can generally be more difficult to find new examples of Australian colloquialisms (e.g. how often do we have a new 'mate' and a new 'no worries'?). That's why these body paragraphs may often seem a bit repetitive every year in the essay section. For generational slang and formal language, it is generally much easier to find modern examples (and by examples I don't mean linguist quotes!). For an essay to be excellent, it must be supported by both LINGUIST QUOTES and MODERN EXAMPLES, and not just either one.

To find examples, you need to be linguistically aware (if that makes sense?). You'll find that you'll pick up on things that other may not be able to explicitly see. For example, last week I noticed that PM Turnbull used 'Violent Extremism' to talk about the current terrorist attacks/threats (BY WHO?). By nominalising 'Extreme' to 'Extremism', Turnbull can remove the agent (Muslims?) and therefore create social harmony due to the prevention of Islamophobia.

I hope that makes sense

Hello,
I remember reading your post about PM Turnbull and how the linguistic features along side it. But I did not quite understand the whole post. Are you able to explain this a bit more?

Thanks

[dmitridr]

Thanks Dmitri! You're a legend. 

Along PM Turnbull's lines, could you discuss Tony Jones' recent use of "ISIS sweet talkers” in regards to ISIS members as opposed to 'terrorists' or similar? He's intentionally avoiding mention of terrorist acts or extremism and instead focusing on a negative element that all groups agree is negative (i.e. recruitment of Australian children into their fold) - so he's playing to avoid taboo topics and create social cohesion.

Hmm I am not too sure with this one. I am not familiar with it, so I can't comment on it explicitly and precisely. I can actually see your viewpoint, but I would argue that it is harder to link to social harmony with this example than 'violent extremism'.

[dmitridr]

Hello,
I remember reading your post about PM Turnbull and how the linguistic features along side it. But I did not quite understand the whole post. Are you able to explain this a bit more?

Thanks

No worries! Which one was that? I'll then be able to provide an explanation.

[flares]

No worries! Which one was that? I'll then be able to provide an explanation.

Hello - sorry late reply
It was this one
"Violent extremism" - a bit confusing, don't you think?

Thanks

Also, with the examples, we have to find them for BOTH unit 3 AND unit 4? so as well as contemporary examples on Australian English, we have to do this for Unit 3 informal and formal language?

Hope that made sense