Whats so bad about the melbourne model?

[DeezNuts]

Hey guys!

I see alot of people dissing the melbourne model but have yet to understand why, could some one please fill me in?

thanks alot!

[ChickenCh0wM1en]

Takes too long, too much uncertainty and stress.

[spectroscopy]

on the simplest level, doing the melbourne model basically means that if you want to work domestically in some industries that require a certain accreditation to work in (eg; nursing, engineering, law) you will have to spend a year or two more at uni at the start, where you learn content from other subject areas as well as the one youre interested in.
This means that you also have to get into the post-grad courses you want after undergrad. take engineering for an example, you might have the atar to do a bachelor of engineering, and not want the risk of having to do a bachelors at melbourne first then getting into the masters

assuming everything thing else is equal (quality of course, resources, job prospects, same subjects, etc.) if someone for example was 100% dead certain they wanted to be an engineer, and just wanted to get working asap, they would be better off doing monash eng which is 4 years vs melbourne which is 3+2

[bills]

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but the "Melbourne model" doesn't apply to Bachelor of Commerce right? What I mean is, doing Commerce at Melbourne is essentially the same as doing it at Monash? (As opposed to Bachelor of Engineering)

[spectroscopy]

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but the "Melbourne model" doesn't apply to Bachelor of Commerce right? What I mean is, doing Commerce at Melbourne is essentially the same as doing it at Monash? (As opposed to Bachelor of Engineering)

yeah the professional accreditations you get from going to melb vs monash bachelor of commerce are pretty much the same

[Russ]

There is nothing particularly bad about it in an objective sense, it depends on what's important to each individual. I strongly believe it's a better educational system than having professional entry degrees available for direct entry to high school leavers.

[Starlight]

There are many downsides to the Melbourne Model, but for me i'm grateful for it because I wouldn't have been able to gain direct entry into optom based on my Atar alone if it was still a bachelor course.

[96n_n]

I personally prefer it since leaving high school, I was quite unsure of what to do. The bachelor of science course at unimelb, as well as their other courses, allows you to explore different areas. In my opinion, I think it's better for people like me to explore our options rather than going into a course and wasting time as well as money going through transfers in a specific course.

[Glasses]

Objectively, there are a number of advantages and disadvantages of the Melbourne Model - and these will vary depending on the individual and what their career aspirations are.

Nevertheless, I've tried to unbiasedly describe the advantages and disadvantages of studying at the University of Melbourne (which obviously includes the Melbourne Model)

Please Note: I have not considered factors such as location, as this completely depends on the individual; and I understand that many of these advantages and disadvantages will also apply to other universities, so please don't crucify me.


Advantages:
- Undeniably, the University of Melbourne is one of the most highly regarded universities in the country, so arguably, career prospects and opportunities may be greater with a Melbourne University degree.
- That being said, if you really care about prestige (which may be quite silly), Melbourne Uni = prestige.
- For those who are unsure of what they want to do as a career, completing a generalist degree (e.g. - arts, science, commerce, etc.) can be very beneficial.
- If you are interested in a career in research (like, postgraduate medical research), then Melbourne Uni is possibly the most suitable (alongside Monash).
- The undergraduate degrees available at the University of Melbourne can still give you accreditation (depending on your major) for a number of careers.
- To my knowledge, major/minor selection is quite flexible at the University of Melbourne.
- If you haven't obtained the ATAR to get into the specialist degree you need (e.g. Monash LLB), you may be able to gain entry into a Melbourne Uni generalist degree (e.g. Melbourne BA).

Disadvantages:
- If you already know what career you want, it may be quite pointless to complete a generalist degree first (if it doesn't give you accreditation).
- Depending on the career you're after (e.g. - doctor, lawyer, teacher, etc.), you'll need to complete a postgraduate, specialised degree later, which will:
     - Cost extra time, and
     - Cost extra money.
- You don't have the opportunity to complete a double degree (bachelor): although you can gain a diploma alongside your bachelor qualification (but there aren't many different options).
- To my knowledge (and this won't impact everyone), Melbourne Uni don't offer on-campus accommodation.
- There is always the possibility of completing your undergraduate degree, and not being able to gain entry into your postgraduate course which is required in order to obtain accreditation. (Thus, unless you obtain guaranteed-entry, there's always that risk).
   - E.g. Instead of completing a Bachelor of Laws at another Uni, you intend on obtaining your Juris Doctor after you've completed your Bachelor of Commerce (just say), at Melbourne Uni; but considering the competitive nature of the Melbourne JD, you can't gain entry and therefore, have spent time and money on a degree which doesn't give you the opportunity to actually do what you want to do.
- The "Good Universities Guide 2016" rates Melbourne Uni's teaching quality and generic skills to be very poor.
- Contrary to the first advantage listed, the "Good Universities Guide 2016" states that the career prospects of Melbourne Uni graduates are quite average.


Again, all of this will greatly vary per individual, and whether the Melbourne Model is suitable for you will depend on your personal and career aspirations