How are state ranks calculated?

[Dante1091]

Hello all,

I was wondering how state ranks were calculated, you hsc mark or just your external?

[jamonwindeyer]

Hey! It is HSC marks, but then they can go to pre-alignment marks to break ties if they need to - All the details are here!

http://www.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/ebos/static/TAINC_2016_12.html

[michelleh]

Hi, this isnt necessarily about State Rank marks but I have a question:

I just got my atar estimate and it was around 91 - 92, but a year ago for prelims, I got an estimate of 96! How did I go down, regarding that I possibly did better in ranking during yr 12 than prelims! Ranking wise last yr, I was around 8 - 17 / 44 people for most of my subjects but this yr, I ranked 1 in all my english subjects, 4/19 in legal, 20/52 in bio and 17/25 in chem! Help! What went wrong??

[pikachu975]

Hey! It is HSC marks, but then they can go to pre-alignment marks to break ties if they need to - All the details are here!

http://www.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/ebos/static/TAINC_2016_12.html

So they use assessment marks submitted by schools? Because my school always submits first on 100 in every subject mostly

[Dante1091]

Thanks Jamon, so just the external marks.

Does this mean if someone is last internally, they can still get a state rank if they 100% the HSC Exam?

[dancing phalanges]

Thanks Jamon, so just the external marks.

Does this mean if someone is last internally, they can still get a state rank if they 100% the HSC Exam?

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HSC mark = internal mark + HSC mark if I understand correctly, don't know the exact logistics though so wait for Jamon

[jamonwindeyer]

Hi, this isnt necessarily about State Rank marks but I have a question:

I just got my atar estimate and it was around 91 - 92, but a year ago for prelims, I got an estimate of 96! How did I go down, regarding that I possibly did better in ranking during yr 12 than prelims! Ranking wise last yr, I was around 8 - 17 / 44 people for most of my subjects but this yr, I ranked 1 in all my english subjects, 4/19 in legal, 20/52 in bio and 17/25 in chem! Help! What went wrong??

Hey! Where are your estimates from? Two different sources or same? Estimates are just that, estimates. If your results are stronger now then your ATAR hasn't magically gone down, results speak for themselves! You can't give any significant weighting to any estimates because you just don't have all the variables

[jamonwindeyer]

So they use assessment marks submitted by schools? Because my school always submits first on 100 in every subject mostly

They'll use your HSC mark, which comes partially from your internals, yes - But they only use moderated marks, your raw marks from your school will never mean anything to NESA

Thanks Jamon, so just the external marks.

Does this mean if someone is last internally, they can still get a state rank if they 100% the HSC Exam?

Nope, HSC mark comes from your internal and external results combined, with the specifics of that magic detailed here. You aren't likely to state rank coming last even with 100%, unless everyone at your school gets 100% with you. However, it is possible to state rank without being ranked first internally - This happened to me for Legal (I was 2nd but smashed my exam so my HSC mark ended up higher)

[Dante1091]

My bad. Thank you for clarifying it for me guys!