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Science degree difference between sequence 1 and sequence 2?
« on: January 22, 2018, 06:27:10 pm »
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Re: Science degree difference between sequence 1 and sequence 2?
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2018, 06:31:58 pm »
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Are you referring to the two required level 1 sequences? If so, nope, no difference - you just have to pick two level 1 sequences from the options :)
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Re: Science degree difference between sequence 1 and sequence 2?
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2018, 07:19:19 pm »
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Are you referring to the two required level 1 sequences? If so, nope, no difference - you just have to pick two level 1 sequences from the options :)

Thanks for the help! I have another question. For reference, im doing a double degree. Anyway, it says that in year 1 semester 1, I must complete: BSc Science major.                   BSc Approved level 1
                                                           Approved level 1 science.         science sequence 2
                                                           sequence 1
It says the same thing for semester 2. What does this all mean if I want to major in physiology for example?
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Re: Science degree difference between sequence 1 and sequence 2?
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2018, 07:29:41 pm »
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Basically... for example, I actually did three - I did Bio, Chem and Maths sequences. It's pretty liberal as long as you're within the university guidelines. If you're a single Bachelor of Science degree at Monash, you can't take more than 10 Level 1 units.

Thanks for the help! I have another question. For reference, im doing a double degree. Anyway, it says that in year 1 semester 1, I must complete: BSc Science major.                   BSc Approved level 1
                                                           Approved level 1 science.         science sequence 2
                                                           sequence 1
It says the same thing for semester 2. What does this all mean if I want to major in physiology for example?
For a double degree with the BSc section having a major in physiology, the minimum is a Level 1 sequence in one of the following: Bio, Chem (normal/ advanced) or Physics. The link I used was this one. So basically, what you must do is complete two of the units listed under "minor requirements". Since a sequence generally consists of two of the same type of unit, but have units in Semester 1 and 2 e.g. BIO1011/1022 are a biology sequence where BIO1011 is a first sem unit and BIO1022 is a second. You can do these units any time, however, the majority of double degree students will do them in their first/ second year of uni, depending on how they've organised their degree(s).

The majority of majors will require that you complete some/ all of the minor requirements and then the additional units listed under "major requirements", usually with a couple of choices. You don't necessarily need to pick your major straight away, but it's good to know where you're headed. I honestly didn't decide my genetics extended major until the end of my first year. Does this make sense?

To complete the major, you must then fulfil the rest of the requirements listed under the "major requirements" sometime in your degree. It's as simple as that. 
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Re: Science degree difference between sequence 1 and sequence 2?
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2018, 07:53:39 pm »
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Thanks for the help! I have another question. For reference, im doing a double degree. Anyway, it says that in year 1 semester 1, I must complete: BSc Science major.                   BSc Approved level 1
                                                           Approved level 1 science.         science sequence 2
                                                           sequence 1
It says the same thing for semester 2. What does this all mean if I want to major in physiology for example?
The labels 'sequence 1' and 'sequence 2' are simply used to match up/label units in the same sequence. For example, say one of your sequences will be chemistry (CHM1011/1022). You can label this 'sequence 1'. So, for semester 1, sequence 1, you will do CHM1011. For semester 2, sequence 1, you will do CHM1022. Then, you also need to pick another level one sequence to be 'sequence 2'.

AngelWings has provided a good answer on majoring in physiology :)
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Re: Science degree difference between sequence 1 and sequence 2?
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2018, 07:59:40 pm »
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Basically... for example, I actually did three - I did Bio, Chem and Maths sequences. It's pretty liberal as long as you're within the university guidelines. If you're a single Bachelor of Science degree at Monash, you can't take more than 10 Level 1 units.
For a double degree with the BSc section having a major in physiology, the minimum is a Level 1 sequence in one of the following: Bio, Chem (normal/ advanced) or Physics. The link I used was this one. So basically, what you must do is complete two of the units listed under "minor requirements". Since a sequence generally consists of two of the same type of unit, but have units in Semester 1 and 2 e.g. BIO1011/1022 are a biology sequence where BIO1011 is a first sem unit and BIO1022 is a second. You can do these units any time, however, the majority of double degree students will do them in their first/ second year of uni, depending on how they've organised their degree(s).

The majority of majors will require that you complete some/ all of the minor requirements and then the additional units listed under "major requirements", usually with a couple of choices. You don't necessarily need to pick your major straight away, but it's good to know where you're headed. I honestly didn't decide my genetics extended major until the end of my first year. Does this make sense?

To complete the major, you must then fulfil the rest of the requirements listed under the "major requirements" sometime in your degree. It's as simple as that.

Thank you! I think I am starting to understand. So just to clarify, the recommended course progression tells me that I should do a science major approved level 1 science sequence 1 for both semester 1 and 2, and then an approved level 1 science sequence 2 for both semester 1 and 2. So if I for example pick biology, I would do BIO1011 in the first semester and BIO1022 im the second semester, and that would fulfill the level 1 minor requirements, but when do I do the level 2 minor requirements? Do I complete it in my second year? Also, for the approved level 1 science sequence 2 in year 1, I can pick a sequence unrelated to my major, correct?

Also, how would it work if I decide to change majors after year 1?

Sorry if my question sounds a bit confusing haha

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Re: Science degree difference between sequence 1 and sequence 2?
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2018, 08:00:30 pm »
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The labels 'sequence 1' and 'sequence 2' are simply used to match up/label units in the same sequence. For example, say one of your sequences will be chemistry (CHM1011/1022). You can label this 'sequence 1'. So, for semester 1, sequence 1, you will do CHM1011. For semester 2, sequence 1, you will do CHM1022. Then, you also need to pick another level one sequence to be 'sequence 2'.

AngelWings has provided a good answer on majoring in physiology :)

Yeah that makes sense. Thank you very much!

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Re: Science degree difference between sequence 1 and sequence 2?
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2018, 09:56:06 pm »
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So just to clarify, the recommended course progression tells me that I should do a science major approved level 1 science sequence 1 for both semester 1 and 2, and then an approved level 1 science sequence 2 for both semester 1 and 2.

Sorry if my question sounds a bit confusing haha
Yeah, basically, although you can do them out of order (I did CHM1022, then CHM1011 the next semester). Let's assume you're doing a double degree in Bachelor of Science/ Arts and take 4 units/ semester - a typical starting point. Let's add that you wish to major in Physiology for the Science section and Japanese Studies for the Arts (having done VCE Japanese prior to starting), minoring in International Studies. Let's just say that you prefer biology and chemistry over physics (because this is kind of what I did, but I did a single degree in science*). *I did a Bachelor of Science with an extended major in genetics (which includes a hidden minor in molecular biology), a minor in chemistry and a minor in Japanese Studies (through my elective slots), so I've experienced most of these.
This is what your first year will look like:
Semester 1 2018: BIO1011, CHM1011, ATS2143, ATS1325
Semester 2 2018: BIO1022, CHM1022, ATS2144, ATS1326
In order, that's the biology, chemistry, Japanese and International Studies sequences.

So if I for example pick biology, I would do BIO1011 in the first semester and BIO1022 im the second semester, and that would fulfill the level 1 minor requirements, but when do I do the level 2 minor requirements? Do I complete it in my second year?
See above. Level 1 is essentially what would act as 'first year' for students doing 4 units and a single degree. Since you're a double degree student, the majority of people in this case will make their modified Level 1 their first year of uni (2018 for you) + some/ all of the second (2019).
Level 2, in the same vein of thought, is the 'second year' for students doing 4 units and a single degree. You'd probably do this in your second (2019) + third years of uni (2020). With Monash, a unit's level is indicated by the first number in the unit code and the semester it's available in generally indicated by the final number with 0 indicating availability in both semesters e.g. GEN2052 is a Level 2 unit for a genetics minor found in Semester 2. Some will not follow the semester rule, so double check this with the handbook entry for that unit.   

Also, for the approved level 1 science sequence 2 in year 1, I can pick a sequence unrelated to my major, correct?
This depends on your major. Majors can also be found in the university handbook (look here for possible majors). The university handbook is basically your unit choosing menu in an a la carte restaurant. The majority of them will only require one sequence minimum, however, it is greatly advantageous to do a sequence in both biology and chemistry to major in biochemistry, as an example. Many people tend to use their second sequence to dictate their minors, as most minors require some form of Level 1 unit as a pre-requisite. Some will taste-test areas of interest and then specialise using them as a basis. (My math sequence actually helped me get into Honours, but that's another story). 

Also, how would it work if I decide to change majors after year 1?
This happened to me. If you go back many posts, you'll find out I did a Level 2 sequence in genetics and molecular biology. Thing is, these are the qualifications for two majors: biochemistry and genetics (duh). I wound up deciding on genetics and did a research project to make it an extended major in genetics instead.

For this, I'd say do broad units in the area that you know that interests you and are somewhat good at (I actually still am not that good at genetics, rather ironically). The third criterion is usually for future study/ career pathways. For example, if you're intending to go for graduate-entry med, then do physiology for sure. It's like a pre-requisite for UoM MD or something IIRC (I'm probably wrong). If you love pathology and immunology, do them. If you're intending to be an ecologist, do ecology. It's that easy.     
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Re: Science degree difference between sequence 1 and sequence 2?
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2018, 06:10:23 pm »
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Yeah, basically, although you can do them out of order (I did CHM1022, then CHM1011 the next semester). Let's assume you're doing a double degree in Bachelor of Science/ Arts and take 4 units/ semester - a typical starting point. Let's add that you wish to major in Physiology for the Science section and Japanese Studies for the Arts (having done VCE Japanese prior to starting), minoring in International Studies. Let's just say that you prefer biology and chemistry over physics (because this is kind of what I did, but I did a single degree in science*). *I did a Bachelor of Science with an extended major in genetics (which includes a hidden minor in molecular biology), a minor in chemistry and a minor in Japanese Studies (through my elective slots), so I've experienced most of these.
This is what your first year will look like:
Semester 1 2018: BIO1011, CHM1011, ATS2143, ATS1325
Semester 2 2018: BIO1022, CHM1022, ATS2144, ATS1326
In order, that's the biology, chemistry, Japanese and International Studies sequences.
See above. Level 1 is essentially what would act as 'first year' for students doing 4 units and a single degree. Since you're a double degree student, the majority of people in this case will make their modified Level 1 their first year of uni (2018 for you) + some/ all of the second (2019).
Level 2, in the same vein of thought, is the 'second year' for students doing 4 units and a single degree. You'd probably do this in your second (2019) + third years of uni (2020). With Monash, a unit's level is indicated by the first number in the unit code and the semester it's available in generally indicated by the final number with 0 indicating availability in both semesters e.g. GEN2052 is a Level 2 unit for a genetics minor found in Semester 2. Some will not follow the semester rule, so double check this with the handbook entry for that unit.   
This depends on your major. Majors can also be found in the university handbook (look here for possible majors). The university handbook is basically your unit choosing menu in an a la carte restaurant. The majority of them will only require one sequence minimum, however, it is greatly advantageous to do a sequence in both biology and chemistry to major in biochemistry, as an example. Many people tend to use their second sequence to dictate their minors, as most minors require some form of Level 1 unit as a pre-requisite. Some will taste-test areas of interest and then specialise using them as a basis. (My math sequence actually helped me get into Honours, but that's another story). 
This happened to me. If you go back many posts, you'll find out I did a Level 2 sequence in genetics and molecular biology. Thing is, these are the qualifications for two majors: biochemistry and genetics (duh). I wound up deciding on genetics and did a research project to make it an extended major in genetics instead.

For this, I'd say do broad units in the area that you know that interests you and are somewhat good at (I actually still am not that good at genetics, rather ironically). The third criterion is usually for future study/ career pathways. For example, if you're intending to go for graduate-entry med, then do physiology for sure. It's like a pre-requisite for UoM MD or something IIRC (I'm probably wrong). If you love pathology and immunology, do them. If you're intending to be an ecologist, do ecology. It's that easy.   

Ok that makes sense. Thank you so much for the help!! :) :) Really appreciate it.