Doing english lan 3/4 without 1/2

[chuhi]

I am think of doing english lanuage 3/4 next year since i dont like mainstream english
Could I catch up and do well or should i just stay in mainstream?
Thanks

[_avO]

Unit 1 of English Language isn't very necessary for Units 3/4, however having some background knowledge of it can assist in the understanding of things such as accents and prosodics of different language variations. Unit 2 I don't even know what I did (development of baby language? and some history)

I know some people who decided to pick up Language at the start of year 12, and they are probably even level with everyone else, if not slightly better .

It's really up to you. Do you like mainstream? If not what specifically don't you like? Because there are essays in English Language (Unit 3 SACs should be essays). However I do find that it is quite easy to grasp concepts in English Language if you pay attention in class and constantly ask questions.

[slothpomba]

It wouldn't be easy, english language is one of those subjects where its probably a pretty good idea to have the 1/2.

It's nothing like mainstream english, at all.

Some stuff from 1/2 is totally irrelevant, like the history of language.

Some of it is rather important though, like the subsystems of language.

If you have a good teacher they should go over this briefly next year and you should be able to learn pretty well from that.

It isnt a huge massive roadblock but it still is one.

Try ask an english language teacher at your school for their opinion

I think it is do-able though in my opinion

[chuhi]

Thanks guys.
So, I don't think I am good at explaining stuffs and using BIG words,  is it better to do EL?(Im kind of a science student )

[_avO]

Haha, there are tonnes of metalanguage (terms) required in english language (100-150ish?). But yea I think a science student may have a tighter grasp on EL than English.

[brookski]

It is definately possible to do EL 3/4 without the 1/2, I did and got 28 SS and I was getting like C/D in normal english and changed and got like A's all the time- just don't stuff the exam up at the end of the year, it will drag your marks down a lot- well it did for me. My only suggestion is to go over the 1/2 course briefly over the summer months, I think it helps a bit especially the subsystems of language and all the metalanguage

[meepcat]

If you're picking up 3+4 without 1+2, get a revision pack from your teacher. It should cover the important things, such as metalanguage, subsystems, IPA for discussing accents, etc. 


I'd disagree that Unit 1 is unrelated - it's the most related of the two units, as it covers a fair amount of new terms that you'll need to use comfortably in Units 3/4.  Unit 2 is not as related to Unit 3/4 as Unit 1 is, but it is a good basis for Unit 3 - you study language death, which leads very well into a sociolinguistic discussion of what it means to lose a language. This links well into language according to use (U3 AOS 1), as you begin to pull apart how language constructs identity.

Good luck!

[buzzlightyear]

it's definately alright, i'd just use the summer holidays extremely wisely. the most important thing to prepare is definately metalanguage.

it can be hard to study b/c some textbooks teach it terribly. i have metalanguage notes that i made. my teacher was awesome and i just wrote down what he said, so PM me if you want them.

[vexx]

I didn't do 1/2, and honestly i have no idea about it since i never went over it..

And i did fine, considering my science focus i found the unit 4 course easier than most i encountered.. and the concepts of everything else were not difficult at all. the only problem i had was with essay writing though not sure if doing 1/2 could help much with that. So depending on YOU, you will be completely fine!

I don't think you need 1/2 with it anyway (like pretty much all VCE subjects), i certainty didn't anyway, just go over the subsystems thoroughly at the start of the year as they are super important for everything, and according to my tutor were a topic within the 1/2 course..

[appianway]

I didn't do 1/2, I didn't have a tutor and I still managed . Learn the metalanguage and start looking out for examples in the media.