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Re: How hard is it to score above 40+ for a SS?
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2010, 01:01:09 pm »
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It is extremely hard for a 40 + but high 30s is achievable. To get a 40 you need to be very good and have some luck along the way.


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Re: How hard is it to score above 40+ for a SS?
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2010, 02:56:30 pm »
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I think the difficulty in getting a 40+ study score is really underestimated. You've got students doing the super-scaling subjects just for the sake of the scaling - Latin, Spec, etc.. - and I think this is one of the worst mentalities to take into VCE. You can do well with or without scaling... there have been quite a few members on AN getting 99.95 ATAR scores and doing no math/science/LOTE subjects (the MGS school captain for example). A 40+ is definitely achievable if you believe you can do it!

To be fair, he did get 40 in Latin but the point remains largely the same.

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Re: How hard is it to score above 40+ for a SS?
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2010, 02:57:54 pm »
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Its useless to argue how difficult it is to attain a score above 40. All you can do is work consistently hard and the results will reflect. Good luck

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Re: How hard is it to score above 40+ for a SS?
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2010, 04:20:08 pm »
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You can have A's in your GAs although that means your A+ needs to be a very high one.

I had A A A+ =42 for English mainstream. So my exam mark must have been mid to high which makes up for my two As for sacs. It's weird cos if you showed me those GAs I would have predicted my score to be like 38 or something. Thank GOD for that exam, saved my ass.
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Re: How hard is it to score above 40+ for a SS?
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2010, 04:26:48 pm »
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^ I had A+, A, A+ in Chem for 44 and A, A+, A+ in Physics for 41
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Re: How hard is it to score above 40+ for a SS?
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2010, 04:30:51 pm »
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ok my turn for case studies. as bullshit as it is your cohort will have a great influence on your SS :(
take my two highest raw scores, English and Biology
for Biology i was A+ A A+, will the mid-year A being 1.5 marks off A+, and end of year being mid-high (full score on M.C.)  these scores resulted in me getting 40. 3/4 of my cohort had midyear results of C+, a B+ and two As (one of which being mine). had my cohort been stronger, my SS should have been more like the ~42 i estimated
for English i was B+ A A+ in again a weak cohort, of which my 38 was equal highest with another girl. (very disappointed)
for me to have received 38 with only a single A+ it mustve been (as ive been told) a mid-high.

so to summerise, to get 40+ SS your own effort is unfortunately not the only influence, but your cohort can cost 1-2 SS if it is not at your level.
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Re: How hard is it to score above 40+ for a SS?
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2010, 04:32:40 pm »
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so to summarise, to get 40+ SS your own effort is unfortunately not the only influence, but your cohort can cost 1-2 SS if it is not at your level.

But the impact would be minimal if you were ranked #1? Is that right? :S

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Re: How hard is it to score above 40+ for a SS?
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2010, 04:35:28 pm »
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Make sure you're ranked highly and then sacs won't impact you too much. The exam is probably the biggest decider for whether you get in the 40s or not. Although if your sac ranking is low you can still do well, but you're counting on those above you to do well. So make sure you try your hardest in SACs. They're important!
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Re: How hard is it to score above 40+ for a SS?
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2010, 04:35:49 pm »
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so to summarise, to get 40+ SS your own effort is unfortunately not the only influence, but your cohort can cost 1-2 SS if it is not at your level.

But the impact would be minimal if you were ranked #1? Is that right? :S

Yeah, if you're rank 1 in a weak cohort your score is entirely dependant upon yourself. This is good in that you aren't dragged down by others. But it's also bad in that you have no safety net in case you have a bad day.
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Re: How hard is it to score above 40+ for a SS?
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2010, 04:38:43 pm »
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so to summarise, to get 40+ SS your own effort is unfortunately not the only influence, but your cohort can cost 1-2 SS if it is not at your level.

But the impact would be minimal if you were ranked #1? Is that right? :S

Yeah, if you're rank 1 in a weak cohort your score is entirely dependant upon yourself. This is good in that you aren't dragged down by others. But it's also bad in that you have no safety net in case you have a bad day.
I was ranked 1 in biology and 2 in english, with no.1 being the girl who also got 38 (she B+ the exam)
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Re: How hard is it to score above 40+ for a SS?
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2010, 04:45:38 pm »
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^ Thanks for clarifying m@tty!

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Re: How hard is it to score above 40+ for a SS?
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2010, 04:45:59 pm »
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so to summarise, to get 40+ SS your own effort is unfortunately not the only influence, but your cohort can cost 1-2 SS if it is not at your level.

But the impact would be minimal if you were ranked #1? Is that right? :S

Yeah, if you're rank 1 in a weak cohort your score is entirely dependant upon yourself. This is good in that you aren't dragged down by others. But it's also bad in that you have no safety net in case you have a bad day.
I was ranked 1 in biology and 2 in english, with no.1 being the girl who also got 38 (she B+ the exam)

Are you sure you were rank 1 for Bio? Because if you were you should have gotten A+ for SACs. Were there multiple classes or something? Because moderation is for the whole school cohort.

And were you rank 2 in both unit 3 and unit 4? Because they are separate. And seeing as you got A for unit 4 I would think that there would have been an A for the exam?

Eh, I don't know =.=
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Re: How hard is it to score above 40+ for a SS?
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2010, 04:56:42 pm »
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so to summarise, to get 40+ SS your own effort is unfortunately not the only influence, but your cohort can cost 1-2 SS if it is not at your level.

But the impact would be minimal if you were ranked #1? Is that right? :S

Yeah, if you're rank 1 in a weak cohort your score is entirely dependant upon yourself. This is good in that you aren't dragged down by others. But it's also bad in that you have no safety net in case you have a bad day.
I was ranked 1 in biology and 2 in english, with no.1 being the girl who also got 38 (she B+ the exam)

Are you sure you were rank 1 for Bio? Because if you were you should have gotten A+ for SACs. Were there multiple classes or something? Because moderation is for the whole school cohort.

And were you rank 2 in both unit 3 and unit 4? Because they are separate. And seeing as you got A for unit 4 I would think that there would have been an A for the exam?

Eh, I don't know =.=

biology rank 1 im 100% sure, they gave an award for it and everything 0_o and my mistake it was A A+ A+
English im not too sure if i was 2nd but at worst 3rd, the top 3 SS scores were 38 38 37, after that it drops to low 30s :/
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Re: How hard is it to score above 40+ for a SS?
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2010, 03:14:04 am »
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Thanks for all the replies everyone! I don't see any reason why I couldn't manage to rank #1 or #2 next year given the competition, but I will work hard to ensure the best possible score.

Thanks again!
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