no good tertiary options?

[ninwa]

Something like making policy....

Hmm to get into something like that (even though you don't need a degree technically) probably arts (with specific subjects chosen) or Law. Also I'd imagine learning another language would be useful

Just putting it out there - you make a lot of policy by being a politician and a law degree would be extremely beneficial in that respect.

I enjoy the humanities but I don't see a future in them. Law would be nice but once again I have 'fake' feeling for them. As if, if there was some great shift in society my learning would be useless.

The law changes every week according to the constant shifts in society you mentioned, and even when you become a lawyer you keep learning. You don't just learn the law, you actually learn how to solve legal problems, you learn logical reasoning, and those are the skills you carry out of a law degree. The rest you can just look up on the thousands of databases out there.

[vitir]

NOOOO VITIR!!!

Civil Engineers are the ones who have the MOST scope to make policy. Civil engineering isn't just buildings! It's water/other SYSTEMS.

You need civil engineers to make policy on safety guidelines for things like irrigation/water waste disposal systems etc.

All the work done on the yarra river is overseen by civil engineers.

Sure, civil engineering tends to have the least maths, but it by no means has the least tough decisions!

what types of engineering will let me edge of the math side of things?

I highly doubt any.

Not gonna get into the whole 'which Eng is the hardest debate', but even Civil Eng is gonna be pretty maths/physics heavy.

Something like making policy....

Hmm to get into something like that (even though you don't need a degree technically) probably arts (with specific subjects chosen) or Law. Also I'd imagine learning another language would be useful

AHhH!!!


This is madness!
I'm overcome with joy. I want to do civil now!!!
it sounds fantastic...BUT it means now there are more competitors for what I have my eyes set on!
law...hmmm not sure...still in

here's what it looks like for me:
tossing up with:

civil engineering
law
journalism

I'm also really really sorry for my last post. It looks like garbage and is hard to follow. I did not do Redmosez post justice (still learning how to use quotes)

[ninwa]

"Journalism: You said you like English, journalism is a great career that can be taken in many different directions."

YesYesYes
I don't know what you are doing but this seems perfect for me.
they have taken out the course now I thought though?
where can I study it?
I also read online that most journalists feel that they didn't need to have gone to journalism school.
my sister says that all her journalist friends are the very best of their field if they want to go somewhere.
where can mediocre journalism students go?

Monash
There's Bachelor of Arts majoring in Journalism, or Bachelor of Communications (which is a part of arts)
http://www.monash.edu.au/study/coursefinder/?action=search&query=journalism
Melbourne
BA - again I think you would have to major in journalism
http://tinyurl.com/yh6sxzs

Bachelor of Arts (Media and Communications)
http://tinyurl.com/yktsjwy

The Media and Communications program is an exciting Bachelor of Arts stream designed to provide students with optimal access to the globally expanding world of media and new communication technologies and to future post graduate study and research.

RMIT
Bachelor of Communication (Journalism)
http://tinyurl.com/ykckkqv

Professional Writing and Editing – Diploma incorporating Certificate IV
http://tinyurl.com/yh5vrmr
Deakin
Bachelor of Arts (majoring in journalism
http://www.deakin.edu.au/future-students/courses/course.php?course=A300&stutype=local&keywords=journalism

Bachelor of Arts (Media and Communication)
http://www.deakin.edu.au/future-students/courses/course.php?course=A328&stutype=local&keywords=journalism

Bachelor of Arts (Professional and Creative Writing)
http://www.deakin.edu.au/future-students/courses/course.php?course=A316&stutype=local&keywords=journalism

I'm sure you could find more with deeper research, this list took me about 5 minutes to compile

"PR: If you're good with people PR could be a great option, again your English skills would come in useful."

oh woah. Thank you. All your comments have been really insightful. I would love this but how would I study it? what would I do?

I think a commerce degree majoring in marketing or human resources?
Or there's arts degrees which can suit that too. I'm not too sure.

EDIT: shortened those massive URLs. I swear those links are not viruses

[redmosez]

they have taken out the course now I thought though?
where can I study it?

Nah the course is still around. It can be pretty competitive to get in though.

RMIT Journalism, 95.75 ENTER (last year): http://www.vtac.edu.au/cgi-bin/coursesrch/course.cgi?&coursecode=32091

Swinburne Journalism, no ENTER available (assuming it's a new course so expect around 80-90ish ENTER) : http://www.vtac.edu.au/cgi-bin/coursesrch/course.cgi?&coursecode=34011

Monash Journalism, no ENTER available (new course, expect 95+): http://www.vtac.edu.au/cgi-bin/coursesrch/course.cgi?&coursecode=27281

Latrobe Journalism, 84.10 ENTER: http://www.vtac.edu.au/cgi-bin/coursesrch/course.cgi?&coursecode=21991

RMIT Professional Communicants, 94.25 ENTER (mix of Journalism, PR and Media): http://www.vtac.edu.au/cgi-bin/coursesrch/course.cgi?&coursecode=32701

I would love this but how would I study it? what would I do?

From wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_relations

Public relations (PR) is the practice of managing the communication between an organization and its publics.[1] Public relations gains an organization or individual exposure to their audiences using topics of public interest and news items that do not direct payment.[2] Because public relations places exposure in credible third-party outlets, it offers a third-party legitimacy that advertising does not have.[2] Common activities include speaking at conferences, working with the press, and employee communication. It is something that is not tangible and this is what sets it apart from Advertising.

check out http://www.vtac.edu.au/courses/searchfield.html for undergad courses


EDIT: Ninwa beat me to it there's a few others on my list so I'll leave em there

here's what it looks like for me:
tossing up with:

civil engineering
law
journalism

From what you've said

I don't really hate maths but I have trouble understanding it. I suppose I don't like it because of that.

I'd be a little cautious about taking up Engineering.

I'm not trying to discourage you from anything, who knows you might get a better grasp of maths at Uni, just make sure you're informed about what it's going to involve.

For example first year at Monash your two core units are:

    *  ENG1060 Computing for engineers: http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/handbooks/units/ENG1060.html
    * ENG1091 Mathematics for engineering: http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/handbooks/units/ENG1091.html

Both will involve a fair bit of math, perhaps take a look at each Uni's handbook and narrow down your options?