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quick question
« on: March 07, 2009, 10:44:13 am »
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how do i find the domain and range of cos(sin^-1 x)

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Re: quick question
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2009, 11:26:49 am »
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the way i do these kind of questions is to split them into a composite function

so let

and

therefore

but we know for f o g to exist ran g must be a subset of dom f

so at the moment

and dom f = R

so yes ran g is a subset of dom f.

and we also know that dom f o g = dom g , hence the domain of the composite function is just the domain of which is [-1,1]

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Re: quick question
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2009, 12:03:47 pm »
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ty trutears, but what if the domain of Cos(x) is restricted to [0,pi] and its range restricted to [-1,1]

how can you go about finding the domain and range of the composite function of cos(sin^-1 x) then?


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Re: quick question
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2009, 12:09:18 pm »
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ok so we have the same set up as before...

then we still find ran g which is still

but now dom f is

which means now we have to RESTRICT ran g to be a subset of dom f. So ran g must be at least restricted to

now it is a subset of dom f, however to restrict the ran of g we must restrict the domain of g.

so domain of g must be restricted to [0,1]. (note you can also think of it as and just solve for x)

so now we know dom f o g = dom g which is [0,1]

to work out the range is easy, just sub in [0,1] into the composite function and those are your endpoints for the range.

so f o g(0) = 1 and f o g(1) = 0

so range is [0,1]
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Re: quick question
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2009, 12:42:43 pm »
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ty =]

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Re: quick question
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2009, 06:08:29 pm »
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Another way to think about it:

construct a right-angled triangle, with an angle and sides


which is the equation for the upper semicircle of the unit circle. Domain [-1,1], range [0,1]
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Re: quick question
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2009, 10:35:58 pm »
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thanks Mao, that makes it heaps easier =]

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Re: quick question
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2009, 08:08:44 am »
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Another way to think about it:

construct a right-angled triangle, with an angle and sides


which is the equation for the upper semicircle of the unit circle. Domain [-1,1], range [0,1]

what if its something like , how would you approach that problem using that method?
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Re: quick question
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2009, 01:08:08 pm »
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So the adjacent side is of length x and the hypotenuse is 1.

The other side is

So
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Re: quick question
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2009, 03:43:19 pm »
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So the adjacent side is of length x and the hypotenuse is 1.

The other side is

So

yes but that doesn't give the correct domain/range
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Re: quick question
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2009, 12:13:21 am »
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So the adjacent side is of length x and the hypotenuse is 1.

The other side is

So

yes but that doesn't give the correct domain/range

because TT found tan(cos-1x) as opposed to what you asked.



I can't think of how to algebraically find right now, might have a crack at it tomorrow

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