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Re: WTF VCAA? English Language Analysis from the internet
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2011, 08:17:59 am »
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Can we file an injunction on VCAA to invalidate that section of the exam, for using this article and the COMMENTS (which is plagiarism), I'm sure they got consent from the writer, but not the people making the comments :p

Also can't it be argued that maybe on some off chance a class of students may have inadvertently analyzed it during the year as practice?

Or you can just accept that you got a difficult article to analyse.
If you stuffed it up, bad luck?
What's filing an injunction going to do, make everyone analyse another article? Yeah, nah.

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Re: WTF VCAA? English Language Analysis from the internet
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2011, 05:09:19 pm »
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What's filing an injunction going to do, make everyone analyse another article? Yeah, nah.
I don't believe there is any basis to file an injunction anyway. VCAA hasn't plagiarised anything.

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Re: WTF VCAA? English Language Analysis from the internet
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2011, 06:25:58 pm »
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I agree

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Re: WTF VCAA? English Language Analysis from the internet
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2011, 08:59:22 pm »
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HAHAHHAHAHA and I thought copying/pasting was not allowed at this level

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Re: WTF VCAA? English Language Analysis from the internet
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2011, 09:10:42 pm »
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Guys if you read the comments, they've even stolen the dolphin comment. The one under the name 'cleanskin' Although that isn't the guys real user name, so try find it lmao
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Re: WTF VCAA? English Language Analysis from the internet
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2011, 09:13:51 pm »
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For some reason I was under the assumption that VCAA wrote the articles for the Language Analysis themselves. Does anybody know if this was the case in previous years?
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Re: WTF VCAA? English Language Analysis from the internet
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2011, 09:25:47 pm »
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last year they got the transcript for the speech........

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Re: WTF VCAA? English Language Analysis from the internet
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2011, 06:41:58 pm »
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Wait, WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT: http://www.theage.com.au/national/education/sloppy-copy-in-exam-raises-ire-20111109-1n7eo.html

VCAA didn't get permission from The Age at all apparently.

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Re: WTF VCAA? English Language Analysis from the internet
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2011, 09:02:14 pm »
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Can we file an injunction on VCAA to invalidate that section of the exam, for using this article and the COMMENTS (which is plagiarism), I'm sure they got consent from the writer, but not the people making the comments :p
I'm no expert with legal stuff, but by commenting on The Age, you agree to their conditions:

Quote from: http://www.fairfax.com.au/conditions.html
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(a) grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, licence to use, reproduce, edit and exploit the Material in any form and for any purpose;

(b) except where expressly stated otherwise, also grant each user of the Fairfax Network a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, licence to use, reproduce, edit and exploit the Material in any form for any purpose, subject to the Conditions;

(c) warrant that you have the right to grant the abovementioned licences;

(d) warrant that the Material does not breach the Conditions; and

(e) unconditionally waive all moral rights (as defined by the Copyright Act 1968) which you may have in respect of the Material.
So, yes, it seems that The Age holds the rights to the comments on their website - since by commenting, you give them that right.

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Also can't it be argued that maybe on some off chance a class of students may have inadvertently analyzed it during the year as practice?
The same goes for essay topics, or even trial exams. Just because something on the exam is similar to a trial exam (you'd probably notice this a lot in maths/science exams particularly), doesn't mean that the student has an unfair advantage. It'd be more like the student has studied hard and is prepared for all possible situations that could come up on the exam.

edit: btw, I didn't quote the entire conditions page in this post - there's more on there.

So i was right :)
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Re: WTF VCAA? English Language Analysis from the internet
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2011, 10:31:30 pm »
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So i was right :)
Seems so.

Note to self: Don't trust VCAA