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bio question
« on: April 15, 2012, 05:37:39 pm »
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If one were looking at a large number of mitotic cells in embryonic tissue, one might expect to find cells of the four principal stages in the following order, from most abundant to least abundant.

I thought it was:  telophase, metaphase, prophase, anaphase

but that is incorrect can someone please tell me what the order is and why

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Re: bio question
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2012, 12:34:06 pm »
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Abundant in what? Chromosomes? You can google this.
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Re: bio question
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2012, 02:04:12 pm »
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Well, think about it like this.

You start out just as a few cells, you looked like this (http://eqconline.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/EX_EMBR_BLAST.jpg) for awhile.

Think about it, how did you get from those two cells, to what you are now? What needed to happen?

Look at the picture for clues as well...2 cells....4 cells... then 8 cells...whats happening?

Also, this was in the university of melbourne section, i moved it to the VCE bio section
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Re: bio question
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2012, 11:20:25 am »
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I would put the order

Prophase - since anaphase and telophase relate to one cell but BOTH would be undergoing prophase in the next cycle.
Telophase - unwinding and rebuilding nuclear membrane would take a while
Anaphase - seperation shouldn't take that long.
Metaphase - they are only in a perfect line for a fraction of time.

the pro/telo is a bit iffy though - are they about to start development or have they pretty much finished?
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Re: bio question
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2012, 05:54:30 pm »
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http://www.cix.co.uk/~argus/Dreambio/cell%20division/mitosis-timeline.gif

According to  ^^^^ it is:

metaphase
Prophase
Telophase
Anaphase

Just google up mitosis timeline.

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Re: bio question
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2012, 07:47:01 pm »
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It's definitely: (N.B. this is the normal mitotic order, not the answer to the OP)

Interphase (not really part of mitosis)
Prophase
Prometaphase   <- not needed knowledge for VCE bio btw
Metaphase
Anaphase
Telophase
Cytokinesis (not part of mitosis)

« Last Edit: May 19, 2012, 08:03:55 pm by VegemitePi »

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Re: bio question
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2012, 08:01:29 pm »
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^ is that the order of most abundance or are you referring to the mitosis stages in order or do they both coincide?

I thought the question was referring to what stage would be most abundant and this would depend on what stage takes longest to occur?

But i'm not sure, could you please explain

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Re: bio question
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2012, 08:03:29 pm »
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I was just referring to the normal order of mitosis, I think I may have misinterpreted Flying Emu's post then... oops


edit: looking at the question, the order would be metaphase, prophase, prometaphase, telophase and anaphase
« Last Edit: May 19, 2012, 08:05:25 pm by VegemitePi »

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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2012, 08:10:48 pm »
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Okay thanks :)

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Re: bio question
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2012, 11:24:57 am »
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I think I may have misinterpreted Flying Emu's post then... oops

Yeah my post was a bit unclear and could have interpreted both ways so, sry for the confusion.

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Re: bio question
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2012, 03:29:25 pm »
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the process of mitosis is subdivided into the four categories only for our convenience, and they dont necessarily begin and end at incredibly specific times. (the process has only been separated to help us remember the events that occur). for instance, what u may define as a cell near the end of prophase may appear to me though at the start of metaphase (prometaphase). Therefore, this question above doesnt have a quantitative/objective answer. it may vary both on the discretion of the observer, and the appearance of the cell. For all we know, the mitotic cycle of all cells may be syncronized, and they may all be in telophase. dont stress about mitosis anyway. its unit 4 stuff. and if ur i year 11, dont stress at all anyway, even if its on ur exam :D