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help me with course preferences? (please)
« on: December 22, 2013, 01:40:49 am »
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i've been struggling with this decision all year and despite it being only a day before the change of preference period ends, i'm no closer to figuring out which course i'd rather do

my options are:
- bachelor of commerce / melbourne
- bachelor of commerce and bachelor of laws / monash
- bachelor of commerce scholars program and bachelor of economics / monash

i intend to major in economics/finance but ultimately i plan to work in a more creative industry for which a tertiary education isn't necessarily required, however i've spoken to people working in said industry and most have suggested that it's best to have a backup

i do love studying economics so i may pursue a career in it anyway but what i need help with is
- approx. how many hours per week i would be at uni for each course
- approx. how many hours outside of uni should be assigned for each course
- what the scholars program actually is
- if it is a good idea to study law when i have no intention of pursuing it as a career. i've never studied it obviously but i've been reading around and a lot of people have mentioned that it can improve employment prospects: does it? is it worth studying if i'm not particularly interested in it? i could end up liking law but i have no idea at the moment

i'm leaning towards commerce at melbourne only because it is far closer to home than monash but i'm still unsure
any help would be great, thanks!

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Re: help me with course preferences? (please)
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2013, 03:07:31 am »
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I'm doing the Bachelor of Commerce Scholars Program and Bachelor of Economics, so I'll try to help you out with that one. I received a PM about the scholars program the other day, so I'll copy and paste some of what I wrote in my reply:

Honestly, the program doesn't offer a lot. It's relatively new (I think the first cohort started in 2011), so they're trying to improve it and add more things, but at the moment, everyone in the program who I've talked to seems to be pretty disappointed with the lack of extra things.

We sometimes have lunch/morning tea with faculty people, like the Dean and Course Directors and such. We also have access to some business skills workshops/seminars (though these are also available if you become a BusEco Ambassador in your second/third year).

We do get a scholars lounge, which is pretty cool and is my favourite part. There are couches (quite comfy to sleep in), cool chairs, computers, free printing, etc. but it's mostly just nice having somewhere private/quiet to go, especially if you need to study and the libraries are full, or around lunchtime when there are just people everywhere and you can't find anywhere nice to sit. It's also a good place to leave your textbooks/other heavy things you don't want to carry around for the whole day.

The $6000 per year scholarship is good, too, of course.

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Most commerce subjects have around three contact hours per week (usually two hours of lectures and a one-hour tutorial, though this varies with each subject). With a full-time load of four subjects, that's a total of ~12 contact hours per week. Most lectures are recorded and uploaded online, too, so there are many people who just skip lectures and only attend tutorials, meaning you could arrange your timetable so that you only need to be at uni two or three days a week.

As for how many hours of work to do outside uni, the uni recommends nine hours per subject, I think, but I doubt that anybody does that much. I've only just finished first year, so I'm sure I'm going to have to do a lot more next year, but I've managed this year with only doing a few hours each week for most of my subjects (and then cramming a lot in the SWOTVAC/exam period, as well as pulling all-nighters before an assignment is due or when a test is coming up).

I believe the hours would be the same/similar for Commerce at Melbourne.

I'm not sure about the exact hours in Law, but I assume it requires a lot more time and work (I hear there are four-hour lectures, and lots of readings); sam.utute can probably help you out more here, since he's just finished his third year of Commerce/Law (and has also managed to be involved in so many extra-curriculars and things outside uni -- seriously, I'm in awe of him).

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You know, just before course preferences closed last year, a friend of mine came over and put the idea into my head that I should do Commerce/Law. But then I reminded myself that I didn't like law, and that I would loathe to be one of those people who felt the need to "use" their ATAR or choose a course for its prestige.

Definitely consider factors like travel time, the atmosphere at both unis, whether you need the scholarship money, whether doing law would destroy your soul, etc.

Good luck with your decision!
« Last Edit: December 22, 2013, 03:09:48 am by Kuchiki »
2011: Methods [44]
2012: Accounting [50] | Economics [47] | English Language [46] | Further [50] | Specialist [34] | ATAR: 99.80
2013-2016: Commerce Scholars Program/Economics (Accounting/Finance/Economics) @ Monash

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Re: help me with course preferences? (please)
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2013, 06:21:02 pm »
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thank you!

yeah although the $6000 is appealing, what you described of the scholars program doesn't seem worth me travelling all the way to monash several times a week when i could get to melbourne in half the time

i suppose i don't really like law either and was only considering it because of my atar but i don't want to study something that will eat up my time/my mind

i think i'll be choosing melbourne (unless i change my mind again)