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Re: Section A Discussion
« Reply #60 on: October 29, 2014, 11:34:59 pm »
I wrote on the first topic. I thought it was interesting that one topic wasn't on fundamentalism given it hasn't been on the exam before and it's in the last year on the text list. But I did so many identity based ones, both before my SAC and before the exam. I was so happy it was something to do with identity - I did a little fist pump to myself during reading time. I did also like the second one, but thought I could write better on the first!

I think they actually might have covered fundamentalism early on - something about Changez being reluctant or not, which directly relates to the topic of fundamentalism.

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« Reply #61 on: October 30, 2014, 06:35:44 am »
I think they actually might have covered fundamentalism early on - something about Changez being reluctant or not, which directly relates to the topic of fundamentalism.

Oh right. But still surprised there wasn't something explicitly on fundamentalism.

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Re: Section A Discussion
« Reply #62 on: October 30, 2014, 08:14:19 am »
For the question for A Christmas Carol regarding actions/enduring consequences, the following formed my arguments:
* A life bereft of love and happiness leads to prolonged misery
- Scrooge is transported to the Cratchits and sees that they're happy despite financial limitations; realises that his quest for wealth which has obliterated human connections has caused him to lose the happiness he sees.
- Scrooge realises the 'joy, the gratitude and the ecstasy' that he has lost as a result of being engrossed by the 'master passion, Gain'.
I then made it less about Scrooge by saying through Scrooge, Dickens illustrates that <main argument>.

* A life where one does not bestow upon the poor assistance will drive the impoverished further into poverty.
- Tiny Tim: not only is he marginalised socio-economically, but is further disadvantaged due to his physical disability. If he does not receive adequate healthcare, he will die. [this exemplifies the essence of making provisions to the destitute].
- Discussed the slums/ depiction of poverty as a result of the negligence of the elite.
- Discussed Ignorance and Want and how they have been created as a consequence of the forces of capitalism.

* A life where one does not become immersed in human relations will lead to a doomed afterlife.
- Marley's Ghost: how his immersion in pursuing worldly fortunes leads him to an afterlife of 'incessant torture of remorse'.
- Scrooge witnessing his grave really underpins the notion that one's fate is bleak if they do not rectify or amend their ways in their current life.

I came up with 4 body paragraphs (broke the second argument into two paragraphs). Are these good arguments? What am I looking at?

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« Reply #63 on: October 30, 2014, 08:15:47 am »
For the question for A Christmas Carol regarding actions/enduring consequences, the following formed my arguments:
* A life bereft of love and happiness leads to prolonged misery
- Scrooge is transported to the Cratchits and sees that they're happy despite financial limitations; realises that his quest for wealth which has obliterated human connections has caused him to lose the happiness he sees.
- Scrooge realises the 'joy, the gratitude and the ecstasy' that he has lost as a result of being engrossed by the 'master passion, Gain'.
I then made it less about Scrooge by saying through Scrooge, Dickens illustrates that <main argument>.

* A life where one does not bestow upon the poor assistance will drive the impoverished further into poverty.
- Tiny Tim: not only is he marginalised socio-economically, but is further disadvantaged due to his physical disability. If he does not receive adequate healthcare, he will die. [this exemplifies the essence of making provisions to the destitute].
- Discussed the slums/ depiction of poverty as a result of the negligence of the elite.
- Discussed Ignorance and Want and how they have been created as a consequence of the forces of capitalism.

* A life where one does not become immersed in human relations will lead to a doomed afterlife.
- Marley's Ghost: how his immersion in pursuing worldly fortunes leads him to an afterlife of 'incessant torture of remorse'.
- Scrooge witnessing his grave really underpins the notion that one's fate is bleak if they do not rectify or amend their ways in their current life.

I came up with 4 body paragraphs (broke the second argument into two paragraphs). Are these good arguments? What am I looking at?
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Re: Section A Discussion
« Reply #64 on: October 30, 2014, 08:33:40 am »
Post the prompt

"An important theme in A Christmas Carol is that actions have enduring consequences".

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Re: Section A Discussion
« Reply #65 on: October 30, 2014, 08:45:48 am »
"An important theme in A Christmas Carol is that actions have enduring consequences".

Yes I did that one two, I think we had some similar ideas,

1. the biblical tone of the time for reckoning for the ability to interfere for good
2. the main tenet that those that have benefited from industrialisation have a social moral and economic obligation to support those who do not
3. then the consequence if this obligation is not met = the doom and ignorance and want Scrooges lonely death relative to Tiny tim to suggest that goodness will be rewarded
4. further consequences of eschewing family 'springtime in haggard winter' thing because he recognises his loss after his pursuit of the 'golden idol'

does that make sense?

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« Reply #66 on: October 30, 2014, 10:36:59 am »
Most of my class did the same one for A Christmas Carol, it was pretty straightforward.
I didn't write about Marley and i'm kicking myself because it's the clearest, easiest example and i had memorised a bunch of quotes but it just skipped my mind! But regardless, i talked about Scrooge and his self-serving lifestyle, Belle and how her values and morale influenced her present life, Fred and how his generosity and kindness led him to not being very wealthy but loved by many and finally the Cratchits who is a manifestation of the destitute in society and linked it to Dickens' message about society.

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« Reply #67 on: October 30, 2014, 08:05:30 pm »
Seriously, the Wilfred Owen essay question was the best!

How does Wilfred Owens Poetry expose the tragedies of war?

I did all my practise SAC essays and Exam essays on this theme, on how he constructed it to expose whatever
My SAC was what was he trying to expose through his poetry.

So I got in an actually laughed out loud.


Para 1: How he uses imagery to convey the tragedies etc

Para 2: How he used metric structure etc. So I touched on Pentameter, Rhyme etc to ellicit a response in his audience. And then the piece de resistance: In his preface he mentions how he is not concerned with poetry. My subject is War and The Pity of War. The poetry  is in the pity
I went on to say in Dulce how he adhered perfectly to the standard poetic features at the time such as pentameter, but when the gas attacks or the pity hits, then it all goes out and the window, and then is when we truly see Wilfred Owens poetry, only when the pity occurs. The poetry is in the pity<3

Para 3: I used his writing style. From a boy who spoke of Bluebells moon by moon and finding gay fairyland to a man who knew loss and spoke of drooping tongues from jaws that slop their relish
I spoke how he used suck evokative imagery to fully explicate to the reader the atrocities of war.


Think I went pretty well on this.

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« Reply #68 on: October 31, 2014, 09:55:04 am »
Seriously, the Wilfred Owen essay question was the best!

How does Wilfred Owens Poetry expose the tragedies of war?

I did all my practise SAC essays and Exam essays on this theme, on how he constructed it to expose whatever
My SAC was what was he trying to expose through his poetry.

So I got in an actually laughed out loud.


Para 1: How he uses imagery to convey the tragedies etc

Para 2: How he used metric structure etc. So I touched on Pentameter, Rhyme etc to ellicit a response in his audience. And then the piece de resistance: In his preface he mentions how he is not concerned with poetry. My subject is War and The Pity of War. The poetry  is in the pity
I went on to say in Dulce how he adhered perfectly to the standard poetic features at the time such as pentameter, but when the gas attacks or the pity hits, then it all goes out and the window, and then is when we truly see Wilfred Owens poetry, only when the pity occurs. The poetry is in the pity<3

Para 3: I used his writing style. From a boy who spoke of Bluebells moon by moon and finding gay fairyland to a man who knew loss and spoke of drooping tongues from jaws that slop their relish
I spoke how he used suck evokative imagery to fully explicate to the reader the atrocities of war.


Think I went pretty well on this.

Same here Josiah. I was considering doing the second one for complexity but A was way to easy to pass up.

Your paragraphs sound great. The first paragraph I also spoke about images. I spoke about the 'helpless sight' of the soldier bearing witness to the debilitating truths of war, like the 'froth corrupted lungs' and shit leading them to 'men marching asleep' seeing total mental degradation in the speaker that let them to be dehumanised and 'men marched asleep' and shit like that.

The second one  I tried to be complex and go both ways, not sure if it was good. I said that Owen attempted to beautify war through his romanticised depictions, but ultimately tragedy prevailed. I spoke that throughout his poems (futility and spring offensive) he began trying to beautify nature and make war sound good, but the poems saw a chronological shift towards tragedy.

Lastly I said owen exposed the unfortunate circumstances that soldiers were put in. I spoke about the gruelling environment of cramped in that funnelled hole, i spoke about the parents allowing children to kill themselves for their honour (S.I.W) then I spoke about the treatment that the propagates of war gave the soldiers (Mental Cases) treating them like psychos in an experiment .. those that 'pawed us those who dealt us war and madness.' As such, he exposed the tragedies of war. I continually referenced the word tragedy.

How do you think I'll do :) I'm hoping for a 9.

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« Reply #69 on: October 31, 2014, 01:48:11 pm »
Same here Josiah. I was considering doing the second one for complexity but A was way to easy to pass up.

Your paragraphs sound great. The first paragraph I also spoke about images. I spoke about the 'helpless sight' of the soldier bearing witness to the debilitating truths of war, like the 'froth corrupted lungs' and shit leading them to 'men marching asleep' seeing total mental degradation in the speaker that let them to be dehumanised and 'men marched asleep' and shit like that.

The second one  I tried to be complex and go both ways, not sure if it was good. I said that Owen attempted to beautify war through his romanticised depictions, but ultimately tragedy prevailed. I spoke that throughout his poems (futility and spring offensive) he began trying to beautify nature and make war sound good, but the poems saw a chronological shift towards tragedy.

Lastly I said owen exposed the unfortunate circumstances that soldiers were put in. I spoke about the gruelling environment of cramped in that funnelled hole, i spoke about the parents allowing children to kill themselves for their honour (S.I.W) then I spoke about the treatment that the propagates of war gave the soldiers (Mental Cases) treating them like psychos in an experiment .. those that 'pawed us those who dealt us war and madness.' As such, he exposed the tragedies of war. I continually referenced the word tragedy.

How do you think I'll do :) I'm hoping for a 9.







Sounds good, looks like you have some complex idea throughout. You should at least get an 8.

All I want is an 8+

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Re: Section A Discussion
« Reply #70 on: November 05, 2014, 09:41:38 pm »
Any Mabo peeps?
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« Reply #71 on: November 05, 2014, 10:14:48 pm »
Any Mabo peeps?

Haha, I gave up on Mabo a week out of the exam and switched to Stasiland. So much easier to write on 300 pages of material rather than 2 hours of film (at least for me, personally). How did you find it though? The first prompt was so open it was almost a disadvantage - the second prompt looked quite promising though, plenty of room for filmic language and construction etc.
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« Reply #72 on: November 06, 2014, 08:49:54 am »
Haha, I gave up on Mabo a week out of the exam and switched to Stasiland. So much easier to write on 300 pages of material rather than 2 hours of film (at least for me, personally). How did you find it though? The first prompt was so open it was almost a disadvantage - the second prompt looked quite promising though, plenty of room for filmic language and construction etc.
Yeah I was really hoping for a good topic for mabo and i had quotes prepared so I was quite shattered when I saw the prompts. I went with the first one anyway and you're right it was so broad but I just spoke about how important the land was to mabo and just gave examples of when it was seen.I tried challenging the topic and wrote about how it's more than just pride and that family values and culture are highly evident. That's all i could come up with, definitely wasn't my best piece but oh well...I think the mabo prompt was the shortest prompt from all the texts!
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Re: Section A Discussion
« Reply #73 on: November 13, 2014, 05:43:12 pm »
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write about mabo
topic mabo is a movie about pride

can i write:
mabo is a film about pride with 3 main opinions like: 1.eddie's pride comes from benny's education which makes him feel proud of being an islander
2. his pride is well supported by bonita's love so he can concentrate on the case
3.his own determination and character also contributes to his pride which help him fight for his rights and the discriminant

can i write like this?
(sorry i am not good at english)

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« Reply #74 on: November 14, 2014, 03:30:05 pm »
Section A Henry IV I didn’t want to tackle the order/disorder so I did the Falstaff question which was essentially ‘say whatever you like about the play’s insights” which was just great - talked about 4 key areas of the play using Falstaff as the main character to convey such insights.
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