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Subject Selection Advice, 2 3/4s in Year 11?
« on: August 31, 2017, 03:07:14 pm »
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Hi, first post in Atar Notes, I hope this is where you post this! ;D
In year 10 I'm doing 1/2  Business Management and Media, I'm having a pretty easy time with these subjects and can balance my workload decently.
In year 11 I plan to do;
Math Methods
English Language
Chemistry
Physics
3/4 Media
3/4 Business Management
My train of thought is that by doing 2 3/4s, I can free up space in year 12 and focus on these two in year 11.
Is it a better idea to do only 1 3/4 and focus more on my 1/2s, in case my foundations suffer?
I am also having a bit of resistance with my school as not many kids do 2 3/4s.
Any help is appreciated.
Cheers!

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Re: Subject Selection Advice, 2 3/4s in Year 11?
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2017, 03:31:13 pm »
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Hi, first post in Atar Notes, I hope this is where you post this! ;D
In year 10 I'm doing 1/2  Business Management and Media, I'm having a pretty easy time with these subjects and can balance my workload decently.
In year 11 I plan to do;
Math Methods
English Language
Chemistry
Physics
3/4 Media
3/4 Business Management

Hey, enricoyu! Welcome to ATAR Notes - great to have you here. :)) You've nailed the section; this is the perfect place. ;)

Glad to hear the balance is going pretty well for you at the moment. To respond to your questions individually:

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My train of thought is that by doing 2 3/4s, I can free up space in year 12 and focus on these two in year 11.
Is it a better idea to do only 1 3/4 and focus more on my 1/2s, in case my foundations suffer?

Nah, I reckon doing the two 3/4s is a good idea if you're comfortable with both Media 1/2 and Business 1/2 at the moment. I think the advantages from doing four 3/4s in Year 12 instead of five outweigh the negatives of focusing less on your 1/2s next year.

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I am also having a bit of resistance with my school as not many kids do 2 3/4s.
Any help is appreciated.
Cheers!

What's their resistance centred on? I reckon it's worth pursuing if you're personally keen on the two 3/4s. :)

Do you have any ideas on what you'd like to do after Year 12?

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Re: Subject Selection Advice, 2 3/4s in Year 11?
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2017, 04:02:05 pm »
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For Year 12 my focus is around medicine and commerce, so getting a high ATAR is a must for me.
I think the resistance is based around the belief that past student's have not been able to balance their 1/2s as well, which made the school less willing to let students do 3/4s. The advisor also told me that doing business management is pointless as it wouldn't help me get into medicine, his thought was that a admissions officers would rather have someone doing an extra science than business management.
Thanks for the response!

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Re: Subject Selection Advice, 2 3/4s in Year 11?
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2017, 04:12:45 pm »
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For Year 12 my focus is around medicine and commerce, so getting a high ATAR is a must for me.
I think the resistance is based around the belief that past student's have not been able to balance their 1/2s as well, which made the school less willing to let students do 3/4s. The advisor also told me that doing business management is pointless as it wouldn't help me get into medicine, his thought was that a admissions officers would rather have someone doing an extra science than business management.
Thanks for the response!
It all depends on whether you think you'll be able to balance all your subjects as well as dedicate extra time to doing well in your 3/4's (without neglecting 1/2's).
When I was in year 11, I knew I wasn't very studious / willing to work hard, so I didn't do methods 3/4 as I knew I'd do better the year after, and I only took one 3/4.
However, if you ARE studious / willing to work hard, there's not much to stop you! If you think you can do it, go ahead (although it will be more work & stress in year 11).

Re: business management, they typically don't mind which subjects you do I believe, predominantly your ATAR as well as interview/other tests, and prerequisites (which it looks like you're already doing). Don't worry about trading a subject you like for one you don't just to get admission, do what you'll enjoy the most and do the best in :)
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Re: Subject Selection Advice, 2 3/4s in Year 11?
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2017, 04:24:24 pm »
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For Year 12 my focus is around medicine and commerce, so getting a high ATAR is a must for me.
I think the resistance is based around the belief that past student's have not been able to balance their 1/2s as well, which made the school less willing to let students do 3/4s. The advisor also told me that doing business management is pointless as it wouldn't help me get into medicine, his thought was that a admissions officers would rather have someone doing an extra science than business management.
Thanks for the response!

Nice! :)

Re: resistance
Fair enough, I guess. But if you're confident with the 1/2s at the moment and are keen to pursue both 3/4s next year, I think you'll be fine. You could frame it to your school pretty positively, I reckon - you'll have more time to focus on your 3/4s in Year 12 (ultimately more important than the 1/2 equivalents in terms of ATAR etc.). That's better for you, and also better for your school.

Re: Business Management
I respectfully disagree. If you enjoy BusMan, I'd be very willing to bet that taking that subject would be more beneficial for getting into Med than a subject you're not as passionate about. Med typically requires an ATAR in the high 90s, and the best way to get a high ATAR is to do subjects you're interested in. Not scaling, not prestige.

If you're considering undergraduate Medicine at Monash, the only subject pre-requisites are Chemistry and an English. To direct Monash from the thread I've just linked:

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Mathematical Methods is not a prerequisite for the 5 year direct-entry Bachelor of Medical Science and Doctor of Medicine (MD) course at Monash University. Year 12 English, Chemistry are the only two prerequisites for this course. Selection will be based on a range of criteria, including overall Year 12 performance, UMAT and Multiple-Mini Interview (MMI). In essence, prerequisites are studies you must have completed to be eligible for selection into our courses. If a subject is not listed as a prerequisite, it will not be required for admission.

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Re: Subject Selection Advice, 2 3/4s in Year 11?
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2017, 08:25:05 pm »
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Hi,
This year i am in year 11 and undertaking unit 3/4 Accouting and Methods adn the workload for methods alone is just too much. Accounting on the hand has a slightly less workload but a lot of stuff must be rote -learned. Additionally, in terms of trying to balance study routine i found it very difficult because sometimes i would have three SACs in a row. Usually MEthod, Methods then Accouting (Methods has two parts in our school), which is very distressing at times. However, if your are comfortable balancing tests for Bus Man and Media then i highly recommend that you continue. However, if you have trouble balanceing tests than go with one of the subjects.

(Note: my circumstance may be very different since i am doing the Asain 5  :'( )
This may be very biased but i hope it may contribute to your decisions ou may be making!\
Good Luck on your Unit 3/4 subjects Next year!
:0 :)