Why does everyone care about VCE so much?

[ninwa]

I don't consider that working.

So... take musician for example. Practising 8 hours a day. Going to endless rehearsals with chamber groups and orchestras, sometimes needing to travel to do so. Studying music theory. Teaching/lecturing (because only the very very best can make a living purely out of performance). Learning new repertoire.

Go into a place like VCA or ANAM and tell them what they're doing isn't really work, I dare you

If anyone would be a bit annoyed it's because you have assumed that everyone's self-interested and that altruism doesn't exist.

Off-topic point (but what about this thread isn't off-topic?) but I actually believe that humans are innately selfish. Even those who volunteer their time, for example, do it partly because of how good it makes them feel. Just my (depressing?) view on the world

No it comes down to the fact that we want money.

Of course we want money. We kind of need it to live. But I would think that for most of us, it is not #1 on our lists.

Also why the hell is the topic "ultimate dispute", I'm changing it back to what it was before

AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE SMILEYS?!?!
edit: nvm they're back =\

[xXNovaxX]

I don't consider that working.

Go into a place like VCA or ANAM and tell them what they're doing isn't really work, I dare you

If anyone would be a bit annoyed it's because you have assumed that everyone's self-interested and that altruism doesn't exist.

Off-topic point (but what about this thread isn't off-topic?) but I actually believe that humans are innately selfish. Even those who volunteer their time, for example, do it partly because of how good it makes them feel. Just my (depressing?) view on the world

No it comes down to the fact that we want money.

Also why the hell is the topic "ultimate dispute", I'm changing it back to what it was before

I thought the exact same thing.... >< I waited for some1 to pick it up, incase I was being too picky.

And no, it isn't ur depressing view of the world. It's true, deep down some people (and its normal!) do stuff/volunteering etc for selfish reasons (selfish sounds harsh in this context).

But I get what you mean don't worry you're/we're not evil


And regarding ur comment about "i dare you" my friend, she did the craziest thing. She failed a test, and told the art teacher "this subject is useless and un-important compared to science and maths. I'm not even going to use it in life"

And they both got into an argument in front of the whole class, like it was calm and all, but every 10 minutes the teacher would think of a rebuttal and tell the girl, and the girl would reply soon after, then a pause of a 10-15 minutes, and it went on again. LOL

As u can tell, i fail with quote boxes =(

I want to like have your quote....space (insert my reply to you)....ur next quote (insert my reply) etc. But when I try, my reply gets mixed up within ur quote box. FAIL.

[QuantumJG]

I don't consider that working.

So... take musician for example. Practising 8 hours a day. Going to endless rehearsals with chamber groups and orchestras, sometimes needing to travel to do so. Studying music theory. Teaching/lecturing (because only the very very best can make a living purely out of performance). Learning new repertoire.

Go into a place like VCA or ANAM and tell them what they're doing isn't really work, I dare you

If anyone would be a bit annoyed it's because you have assumed that everyone's self-interested and that altruism doesn't exist.

Off-topic point (but what about this thread isn't off-topic?) but I actually believe that humans are innately selfish. Even those who volunteer their time, for example, do it partly because of how good it makes them feel. Just my (depressing?) view on the world

No it comes down to the fact that we want money.

Of course we want money. We kind of need it to live. But I would think that for most of us, it is not #1 on our lists.

Also why the hell is the topic "ultimate dispute", I'm changing it back to what it was before

AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE SMILEYS?!?!
edit: nvm they're back =\

There is absolutely no way I would go into VCA and say they aren't working. I would walk out severely bashed.

[slothpomba]

Heres what i was going to write before the thread magically vanished:

The thread is right, there are a lot of easier jobs.

I go to a methods tutor for example - It's his only job, to just tutor all day but out of it he does make a killing. He see's at least 2 classes a day, with around 5 students in each, 50 bucks each student.

So, 2(classes)*5(students)*7(days)*50 = a shitload (i was never good at math i guess that's why i need him but its roughly bare minimum $3500 a week).

Now, some people, if they're good enough at math, could do that straight out of VCE.  I mean sure it'd be boring and maybe un-fulfilling but you'd make a killing.

He lives in a very nice house (which im sure ive paid a decent chunk off for him), yes he is asian and his son and daughter are both doctors. By almost all measures he is very successful.

(on a side note it is kind of akward being the only white guy ive ever seen there)

[Gloamglozer]

I don't consider that working.

So... take musician for example. Practising 8 hours a day. Going to endless rehearsals with chamber groups and orchestras, sometimes needing to travel to do so. Studying music theory. Teaching/lecturing (because only the very very best can make a living purely out of performance). Learning new repertoire.

Go into a place like VCA or ANAM and tell them what they're doing isn't really work, I dare you

If anyone would be a bit annoyed it's because you have assumed that everyone's self-interested and that altruism doesn't exist.

Off-topic point (but what about this thread isn't off-topic?) but I actually believe that humans are innately selfish. Even those who volunteer their time, for example, do it partly because of how good it makes them feel. Just my (depressing?) view on the world

No it comes down to the fact that we want money.

Of course we want money. We kind of need it to live. But I would think that for most of us, it is not #1 on our lists.

Also why the hell is the topic "ultimate dispute", I'm changing it back to what it was before

AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE SMILEYS?!?!
edit: nvm they're back =\

There is absolutely no way I would go into VCA and say they aren't working. I would walk out severely bashed.

That's if you walk out...  alive...