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Does this make sense?
« on: January 22, 2010, 10:08:48 pm »
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I will support the issue animals need to live in more human conditions

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Re: Does this make sense?
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2010, 10:13:07 pm »
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No, you don't support 'issues', argument is only for one side of the issue.
EDIT:
So there are two choices of statement: one for the side you agree with, or a rebuttal(is this word right here?) of the opposite viewpoint. That is assuming there are only two main standings.
Eg. I support the humane treatment of animals.
or
I despise the inhumane treatment of animals.
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Re: Does this make sense?
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2010, 10:17:35 pm »
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That's not an issue. That's a contention or view point regarding an issue. So no, not really. Even so, it's very awkward sounding at the moment. If this was meant for the issues oral, first, don't say 'will' because you should be currently believing and supporting this view. It sounds as if you're saying I will support this view at a later date. Secondly, it should be humane, not human. Thirdly, it should be presented with much more passion and emphasis if it is for an issues oral. It sounds incredibly dry at the moment. If it really is for your issues oral then yeh, there's plenty of work that needs to be done but I won't bother commenting beyond what I've said until I know that's what it's actually for.
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Re: Does this make sense?
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2010, 10:33:13 pm »
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^^ Pro.
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Re: Does this make sense?
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2010, 10:44:01 pm »
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nice...learning . . .  ;D
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Re: Does this make sense?
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2010, 12:07:26 am »
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Thanks for the help guys.

Also does that make sense: "By no means to keep trying without learning"

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Re: Does this make sense?
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2010, 12:27:13 am »
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Thanks for the help guys.

Also does that make sense: "By no means to keep trying without learning"
Depends on the context. I have no idea, it could. Maybe remove 'to'.
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Re: Does this make sense?
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2010, 01:15:45 am »
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By no means to keep trying without learning

No, generally I would say that it does not. Make definite assertions. Avoid confusing and colourless writing. Why is ""by no means" needed in this sentence?

Be direct with your wording, as this is more forcible. Doesn't "do not keep writing without learning" make more sense, but in as simplier way?

I am still quite confused regarding what you are trying to say with this sentence. As a reader I shouldn't be, the wording structure seems convoluted. Hard to judge a sentence in isolation.

You should read Strunks 'Elements of Style', not the E.B. White edition though as he has changed it. You can read the original here .... http://www.bartleby.com/141/ (or buy it).

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Re: Does this make sense?
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2010, 01:32:51 am »
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As above, I have no idea what you're trying to say so I can't even offer an alternative.
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Re: Does this make sense?
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2010, 01:35:13 am »
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0.o where do these sentences come from?

And this is my interpretation - By no means should you keep trying without learning about it first.
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Re: Does this make sense?
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2010, 11:44:42 am »
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Thanks for advice guys

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Re: Does this make sense?
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2010, 01:48:07 am »
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That's not an issue. That's a contention or view point regarding an issue. So no, not really. Even so, it's very awkward sounding at the moment. If this was meant for the issues oral, first, don't say 'will' because you should be currently believing and supporting this view. It sounds as if you're saying I will support this view at a later date. Secondly, it should be humane, not human. Thirdly, it should be presented with much more passion and emphasis if it is for an issues oral. It sounds incredibly dry at the moment. If it really is for your issues oral then yeh, there's plenty of work that needs to be done but I won't bother commenting beyond what I've said until I know that's what it's actually for.
Yeh, its for issues oral. How could I say that I want to show the audience that I am going to agree with the issue?

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Re: Does this make sense?
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2010, 01:57:40 am »
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^ you are not so much agreeing with an issue.  you can't agree with an issue, you have to develop a contention regarding the issue.

if you are talking about animal cruelty, then i guess you could start off by describing some of the conditions that animals have to live in and then build up and talk about how you think it is criminal and immoral and how would you like it if you were locked up in a cage and blah blah blah....

you don't really have to say "i agree that we need to stop cruelty against animals."  this should be implied from your body language/tone throughout the speech.

for example, if you ask the audience, "would you like to live locked up in a cage?"  they will obviously get that you are against animal cruelty.

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Re: Does this make sense?
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2010, 02:31:32 am »
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Oh ok so you don't need to state your purpose directly.

Thanks