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Re: James Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop dishing out on the VCE
« Reply #225 on: September 01, 2010, 07:54:36 pm »
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Scaling is only controversial because most people don't understand it.

Aside from this, and I've said this before and will say it again. If you're already whining about how VCE assessments are done, wait until you get into university. Then you'll know what the meaning of unfair assessment is.
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Re: James Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop dishing out on the VCE
« Reply #226 on: September 01, 2010, 07:56:08 pm »
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Scaling is only controversial because most people don't understand it.

Aside from this, and I've said this before and will say it again. If you're already whining about how VCE assessments are done, wait until you get into university. Then you'll know what the meaning of unfair assessment is.

That in itself is a controversial statement.
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Re: James Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop dishing out on the VCE
« Reply #227 on: September 01, 2010, 08:03:14 pm »
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Scaling is only controversial because most people don't understand it.

Aside from this, and I've said this before and will say it again. If you're already whining about how VCE assessments are done, wait until you get into university. Then you'll know what the meaning of unfair assessment is.

How is it unfair?
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Re: James Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop dishing out on the VCE
« Reply #228 on: September 01, 2010, 08:06:11 pm »
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Scaling is only controversial because most people don't understand it.

Aside from this, and I've said this before and will say it again. If you're already whining about how VCE assessments are done, wait until you get into university. Then you'll know what the meaning of unfair assessment is.

How is it unfair?

Yeah I'm kind of lost with that statement of yours. Uni for me has been incredibly fair so far.

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Re: James Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop dishing out on the VCE
« Reply #229 on: September 01, 2010, 08:25:07 pm »
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Scaling is only controversial because most people don't understand it.

Aside from this, and I've said this before and will say it again. If you're already whining about how VCE assessments are done, wait until you get into university. Then you'll know what the meaning of unfair assessment is.

How is it unfair?

Yeah I'm kind of lost with that statement of yours. Uni for me has been incredibly fair so far.

Say if you were to get a good GPA, different subjects dont have the same average mark; e.g. if you took subject 1 it would take 5 hours to study and get a good mark, then if you took subject 2 it would take 15 hours to get a good mark. Since the exam is written by usually a few people, the lecturers, then theres no set study design and they can often put something in there they is unknown or touched on lightly.
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Re: James Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop dishing out on the VCE
« Reply #230 on: September 01, 2010, 10:28:53 pm »
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Scaling is only controversial because most people don't understand it.

Aside from this, and I've said this before and will say it again. If you're already whining about how VCE assessments are done, wait until you get into university. Then you'll know what the meaning of unfair assessment is.

How is it unfair?

Yeah I'm kind of lost with that statement of yours. Uni for me has been incredibly fair so far.

Say if you were to get a good GPA, different subjects dont have the same average mark; e.g. if you took subject 1 it would take 5 hours to study and get a good mark, then if you took subject 2 it would take 15 hours to get a good mark. Since the exam is written by usually a few people, the lecturers, then theres no set study design and they can often put something in there they is unknown or touched on lightly.

^ That

Also, criteria sheets that is incredibly unclear, if it even exists. I did a unit where I remember they didn't even give how much each question was worth [they added that later].
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Re: James Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop dishing out on the VCE
« Reply #231 on: September 04, 2010, 12:54:04 am »
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lol i think he's my physics tutor.....
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Re: James Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop dishing out on the VCE
« Reply #232 on: September 04, 2010, 10:06:33 am »
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Zach Charge, and everyone else, I think I have an answer to that, and Eriny's post about "rote learning"

I think you hit it on the nail without intending to, or noticing!

Okay, teacehrs teach us the subject....they filter the "important" things from the tetxbook, i.e. what we should know, and is relevant to the study design, and what isn't just a repeat of a previous chapter or concept. <<<everyone is arguing this is bad....we are just taught by the syllabus.

Well!!! *I am so hypo at this point* thats just it! the majority of stduents i.e. 90% of the class? Will TAKE this information, merely do the board questions, homework, and read the prescribed chapters to scrape through, get a "good" mark.

WELL, come EXAM TIME, examienrs need to DIFFERENTIATE between those 90% of students who merely follow the rule book, and the SMALL number who do their OWN learning (such as myself).

For example, in English I got my OWN quotes (so did many of u guys on here), ratehr than use the "class handouts".....i read EXTRA context books and movies (rather than the prescribed texts), AND I handed in extra essay questions........well guess what, that put me ABOVE my peers to GET the mark I got =D (40's)

Ladies and gentlemen, from what my teacehrs have told me throughout VCE, is to NOT just do what they have taught us, they always told the class "get your own statsitics (for economics)......learn new words (for english).....do every excersie in the book (for maths).......not just the MINIMUM.

THIS is what makes the difference between a person with an ENTER of 50 and an ENETR of 70+ (i reckon 80).

The system is designed to reward those who are DIFFERENT, and have done their own independent learning.....

I think this has answered a big question in these last 7 or say pages =D

I do not think it has answered the "question" at all.
The issue is not about the "independent learning" which you have described, but rather how the system of the VCE imprisons students within a strict syllabus of heavy rote-learning, essentially restricting them from pursuing stimulating learning outside of such.
Many of you have proposed that freedom for learning is attained in university, however this could not be said for those students needing to gain entry to honors and/or studies at a post-graduate level, in order to reach their preferred career (thankyou for highlighting this, tristan). In these cases, it would seem that the obsession with exam performance and fear of losing marks, which first presented itself in VCE, is carried on, for years.
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