Is it hard to score in History Revolutions?

[werdna]

OK, so next year I'm doing these subjects for sure:

1. English 3&4
2. Economics 3&4
3. Legal Studies 3&4
4. Latin 3&4

And maybe repeating this:

5. Methods 3&4

Now, I need a 6th subject.

I need to choose from the following:

* ENGLISH LANGUAGE 3&4 - DISTANCE EDUCATION
I have not done Units 1&2 of English Language... but I have a passion for English-based, linguistic-type subjects. I do Latin so you can sort of say that I'm used to the grammatical side of a language. The fact that this is by distance education makes me a bit hesitant though.. not enough people chose it at my school for it to run.

* CRIMINAL JUSTICE ENHANCEMENT SUBJECT - MONASH UNIVERSITY
This enhancement subject would have to be studied by correspondence. I have done Legal Studies 1&2 so I guess it will be easier to get my head around it all. Not sure what the workload of a first year university subject is like...

* ANOTHER VCE SUBJECT - SCHOOL
I could do another VCE subject.. not very keen on this idea, BUT I could do something like History Revolutions.. which I have done 1&2 for. But this all counts on how I go in Methods; the timetable only allows for 5 subjects.

I really don't know which one to do!  

EDIT: I HAVE CHOSEN TO DO ENGLISH LANGUAGE BY DISTANCE EDUCATION AND REPLACE ECONOMICS 3&4 WITH HISTORY REVOLUTIONS 3&4. DOES ANYONE KNOW IF IT IS HARD TO SCORE IN REVS? I HAVE DONE HISTORY 1&2 BUT NOT ECONOMICS 1&2.. THE ECONOMICS TEACHERS SAY THAT THERE IS A LOT OF ASSUMED KNOWLEDGE NEEDED, HENCE I'M NOT DOING IT ANYMORE. 

[Slumdawg]

Do Language. It's always good to have a back up english and I've heard distance ed is really good. And if you have mental blanks next year (highly doubt it and hope you don't) then it's good to have something else that could be in your top four instead of just relying on english. Plus you're interested in linguistics so it fits.


If all else fails, do media. Best subject

[funkyducky]

If I were you, English Language, because it's basically Linguistics, but you only study English Linguistics, not of other languages. I've had experience learning some linguistics from Uni Ph.D students and lecturers, and it's really interesting and fun.
They don't have English Language at my school, but if they did, I would definitely take it instead of English 3/4. As a sidenote, I did Literature 1/2, not English 1/2.
But yeah, if you're interested in languages, go for English Language.

[LFTM]

Thanks guys!

Will it be hard to do it without 1&2?

Most of the stuff i learned in 1/2 wasnt even relevant to 3/4 so you'll be fine especially if you are passionate about english.

[binders]

good practice would be to start paying attention to how people speak, the words they use in different contexts, when they um, ah, or start their sentences again etc. look for interesting bits of english or usages when you're out and about, on signs, what you overhear on trains/trams etc. you could start a journal of interesting examples with the sources listed. all that will come in handy in 3/4.

having some latin will help you with some of the grammar concepts you may have missed in 1/2.

[natalie.krystal7]

Thanks guys!

Will it be hard to do it without 1&2?

Most of the stuff i learned in 1/2 wasnt even relevant to 3/4 so you'll be fine especially if you are passionate about english.

Is there at least one or two topics that I should read over though?

I'm in the exact boat as you and am doing EL via Distance Ed next year as well.

And I've been there, done that with the asking of every single Year 12 EL student I've met about the course so, here's what I know that might help. ^^

In answer to your question, reliable sources have told me that mastering and grasping the knowledge the 5 subsystems of language is paramount, so perhaps read over that in-depthly (not a word, I know but can't think of anything else now:p).

Units 1&2 are different in content to Units 3&4, so don't worry too much about what's been covered, except those subsystems. Obviously, if you have the time or unction to, you can read through the Units 1&2 texts; though I personally won't be doing that.

If your going with DECV, you'll realise they use the Heinemann text. Apparently while this is a good book, it'd be more advantageous to you to get your hands on Living Lingo by the VATE, and have a good look through that and use it as a fallback supplement.

Derrick Ha and Hannah Gould are also people who you might want to try getting resources from. DHA is apparently rather brilliant, so says stonecold, and I'd trust him, lol.

If I've left anything out, you can just ask again; sorry I can't think of anything else at the moment. :S

Oh, and in regards to the MUES Criminal Justice Studies, my mate came about an inch away from concretely deciding on it, and then changed her mind. Apparently she just didn't have the passion for it that an Enhancement student required, and I agree. Unless you find the affiliated 3/4 or 1/2 subject remarkably fascinating, don't do it as it simply be a hassle. But if you really liked Legal, which is the prerequisite anyways, go for it.

I'm applying for MUES Biology, because I truly love Biol as a subject and the Enhancement Program from all I've heard, really is rather brilliant. ^^

History in the opinion of the smartest Yr 12 kid this year, is not worth the trouble, lest you have a flair for humanities. If you're more maths/science based, I'd say go for EL anyday.

If in the end you really couldn't decide, couldn't you drop English and replace that EL, and do the Enhancement as well?

Hope that helped somewhat,

[stonecold]

Thanks guys!

Will it be hard to do it without 1&2?

Most of the stuff i learned in 1/2 wasnt even relevant to 3/4 so you'll be fine especially if you are passionate about english.

Is there at least one or two topics that I should read over though?

I'm in the exact boat as you and am doing EL via Distance Ed next year as well.

And I've been there, done that with the asking of every single Year 12 EL student I've met about the course so, here's what I know that might help. ^^

In answer to your question, reliable sources have told me that mastering and grasping the knowledge the 5 subsystems of language is paramount, so perhaps read over that in-depthly (not a word, I know but can't think of anything else now:p).

Units 1&2 are different in content to Units 3&4, so don't worry too much about what's been covered, except those subsystems. Obviously, if you have the time or unction to, you can read through the Units 1&2 texts; though I personally won't be doing that.

If your going with DECV, you'll realise they use the Heinemann text. Apparently while this is a good book, it'd be more advantageous to you to get your hands on Living Lingo by the VATE, and have a good look through that and use it as a fallback supplement.

Derrick Ha and Hannah Gould are also people who you might want to try getting resources from. DHA is apparently rather brilliant, so says stonecold, and I'd trust him, lol.

If I've left anything out, you can just ask again; sorry I can't think of anything else at the moment. :S

Oh, and in regards to the MUES Criminal Justice Studies, my mate came about an inch away from concretely deciding on it, and then changed her mind. Apparently she just didn't have the passion for it that an Enhancement student required, and I agree. Unless you find the affiliated 3/4 or 1/2 subject remarkably fascinating, don't do it as it simply be a hassle. But if you really liked Legal, which is the prerequisite anyways, go for it.

I'm applying for MUES Biology, because I truly love Biol as a subject and the Enhancement Program from all I've heard, really is rather brilliant. ^^

History in the opinion of the smartest Yr 12 kid this year, is not worth the trouble, lest you have a flair for humanities. If you're more maths/science based, I'd say go for EL anyday.

If in the end you really couldn't decide, couldn't you drop English and replace that EL, and do the Enhancement as well?

Hope that helped somewhat,

Derrick Ha and Hannah Gould are both amazing and their resources are far more useful and important than either of the textbooks available.

[natalie.krystal7]

Is it hard to score high in History Revs? I don't see many 98/99+ students doing Revs..

Depends on how you're oriented as a student.

I've mentioned this elsewhere, but this year, the smartest kid in our school who really is quite brilliant, reckons his worst subject is Revs, and he's made a job of warning all hapless Year 11 students like us against doing it, lol. :p

In his opinion, history is really, really difficult to score highly in, and only worth it if you're ready to put in massive amounts of study.

I do believe however, that this is due to that fact that his other subjects are the likes of Spesh, Methods, Physics and Chem, and thus he isn't a particularly gifted humanities student.

If you like subjects where stuff like essays and elaborate analysis is commonplace, then you've a good chance of doing well, I'd say.

But if, like this Dux, and me, you're a maths/science based student, then perhaps sticking to your specialty might prove easier.

You could then argue that if all your subjects are logical and scientific, it might be better to take a break with a humanities subject. But in that case, I'd personally suggest another English, or International Studies.

History, especially Revolutions, can be very draining and unless you have an affinity for it, I'd stay away. ^^ But that's just my two-cents worth; it always comes down to you and where your brilliance lies. Something I think you'd know about better than anyone else.

Good luck!

[natalie.krystal7]

Thanks Natalie!! I'm definitely a much more humanities-based student.... the only math/science I'm doing next year is Methods.

Ooh, awesome!!

Then go for it. History's amazing if you're wired for it (so say the other students who do it, cept' they don't really put in the work >.< but you will I'm sure, so you'd ace it). ^^ Good luck!!

[Greggler]

im a bit of an allrounder, revs i would have to say was my most enjoyable subject at school, despite the fact that i primarily did science/maths stuff, and i also share a passion for the humanities.

Ultimately I would say that it is definitely harder than it is given credit for; it is one of those subjects that you really need to enjoy to do well in i think, because if that is the case, then the huge amount of reading required is something i found actually quite enjoyable.

Seeing as you're a humanitites orientated person i would say do revs, it is an awesome subject, and the amount/depth of analysis and essays you do will help a lot with your other subjects. 

[eeps]

I agree, just practice writing essays and remember all those dates and so on. I knew someone who got 49 last year for History Revs (in Year 11) - as far as I know, practice is essential to do well in this subject. I suppose you're already good at English, as Greggler pointed out it, it will complement your other subjects.

[Sunny10]

Do history, its not as hard as people make it out to be, it just requires consistency
that being said though, i dont think my argument is as swaying as the previous ones

[darren94]

Do revs, it may be harder, but do not pursue my route of doing a fail humanities [Australian History] this year. Did nothing in class besides sleep, eat, and dig myself a grave that I happily crawled into during the exam period. Yup! i bombed! wooooo

[chansthename]

I found it boring and totally not my type of subject. It required essays and more essays, and quite a bit of memorisations on top of an in depth understanding of historians perspectives. I can't really say much since I son't know you well, but you seem like the type of person to do well in it. I was not cut out for it and as a result did quite badly. there is quite a bit of work too.