political viewpoints

[osmoister]

Why are you so against nationalism? =_=

throughout history, has there been a greater cause for war?

I wouldn't blame that on nationalism, there are other factors, such as people being completely fucked in the head.
Nationalism would be their excuse.

ok, but it's the appeal to patriotism that gets the people involved.

[bucket]

Why are you so against nationalism? =_=

throughout history, has there been a greater cause for war?

religion.

Nuh, i reckon it's more nationalism. world war 1, worls war 2 and the cold war are examples and there's a hell of a lot more.

I'll say it again. Nationalism is normally an excuse used to start conflict and not the cause. Sadly, there are evil people in the world and they mask their real motives to encourage people to side with them, just like with religion.
Both nationalism and religion bring people together. Besides, you're only looking at the past 100 years, I'm sure there are many more wars which have been started using religion as an excuse in the past.

[bucket]

Why are you so against nationalism? =_=

throughout history, has there been a greater cause for war?

I wouldn't blame that on nationalism, there are other factors, such as people being completely fucked in the head.
Nationalism would be their excuse.

ok, but it's the appeal to patriotism that gets the people involved.

Just like urging people to 'defend' their religion gets people involved in war.

[suenoga]

greater emphasis on religious standings, what does that mean?

the nation my parents come from, turkey, is greater than 95% muslim and it is forbidden to wear the hijab in public schools. laws like this shouldn't be around.

I would agree with that particular view. However, I like Turkey’s insistence on upholding secular values. Secularism promotes democracy and tolerance; I think putting greater emphasis on religious values is heading down a slippery slope.  

true, but since when did secularism involve abusing the rights of the people. in another example, the same law is prevalent in france awell, and this doesn't just involve the hjab but other religious motifs such as the jewish scullcap and others.

Once again I agree that these paticular laws should be changed. However, seculiarism often promotoes tolerance and diversity.  Obviously this is not always the case i.e "Marxist" dictatorships.

Why are you so against nationalism? =_=

throughout history, has there been a greater cause for war?

religion.

Nuh, i reckon it's more nationalism. world war 1, worls war 2 and the cold war are examples and there's a hell of a lot more.

True nationalism is a major cause of war.  However, their are countless amounts of conflicts due to religious reasons. I think you’re being hypocritical to say you're against nationalism because it's a cause of war, whilst still advocating for greater emphasis on religious values, another major cause of conflict in the world.

[osmoister]

Why are you so against nationalism? =_=

throughout history, has there been a greater cause for war?

religion.

Nuh, i reckon it's more nationalism. world war 1, worls war 2 and the cold war are examples and there's a hell of a lot more.

I'll say it again. Nationalism is normally an excuse used to start conflict and not the cause. Sadly, there are evil people in the world and they mask their real motives to encourage people to side with them, just like with religion.
Both nationalism and religion bring people together. Besides, you're only looking at the past 100 years, I'm sure there are many more wars which have been started using religion as an excuse in the past.

nationalsim might not be the cause, but it's what wins the hearts and minds of the general population. for a large scale war to occur, you need that support. nationalism doesn't bring people together, it seperates people. it seperates humans into different categories that strive for dominance. that so called dominance will never abate in human society.

[bucket]

Why are you so against nationalism? =_=

throughout history, has there been a greater cause for war?

religion.

Nuh, i reckon it's more nationalism. world war 1, worls war 2 and the cold war are examples and there's a hell of a lot more.

I'll say it again. Nationalism is normally an excuse used to start conflict and not the cause. Sadly, there are evil people in the world and they mask their real motives to encourage people to side with them, just like with religion.
Both nationalism and religion bring people together. Besides, you're only looking at the past 100 years, I'm sure there are many more wars which have been started using religion as an excuse in the past.

nationalsim might not be the cause, but it's what wins the hearts and minds of the general population. for a large scale war to occur, you need that support. nationalism doesn't bring people together, it seperates people. it seperates humans into different categories that strive for dominance. that so called dominance will never abate in human society.

As does religion.

Nationalism and Religion both create similar responses in people.

[osmoister]

True nationalism is a major cause of war.  However, their are countless amounts of conflicts due to religious reasons. I think you’re being hypocritical to say you're against nationalism because it's a cause of war, whilst still advocating for greater emphasis on religious values, another major cause of conflict in the world.

the only way people can understand the religious values of others is through eduaction and understanding. there are some cultural gaps that prevent this from occuring. they need to be overcome for a greater understanding.

[bucket]

True nationalism is a major cause of war.  However, their are countless amounts of conflicts due to religious reasons. I think you’re being hypocritical to say you're against nationalism because it's a cause of war, whilst still advocating for greater emphasis on religious values, another major cause of conflict in the world.

the only way people can understand the religious values of others is through eduaction and understanding. there are some cultural gaps that prevent this from occuring. they need to be overcome for a greater understanding.

Education about other religions isn't going to stop conflict between religious groups, I doubt they'd care if they were educated about each others religions.

[osmoister]

True nationalism is a major cause of war.  However, their are countless amounts of conflicts due to religious reasons. I think you’re being hypocritical to say you're against nationalism because it's a cause of war, whilst still advocating for greater emphasis on religious values, another major cause of conflict in the world.

the only way people can understand the religious values of others is through eduaction and understanding. there are some cultural gaps that prevent this from occuring. they need to be overcome for a greater understanding.

Education about other religions isn't going to stop conflict between religious groups, I doubt they'd care if they were educated about each others religions.

thats you're opinion, i think it will.

[BA22]

The cruscades anybody?