Who believes in evolution?

[Glockmeister]

Unfortunately, there is a group of creationists that have a knack of saying "We don't want evolution taught in schools" and/or "They should teach alternative theories in schools."

That is forcing their belief onto people, because regardless of what individuals think, evolution *is* currently an integral part of modern biology.

This is so true an I will give you a bit of my history.

It took me until the age of 16 to learn about the theory of evolution. The main reason is that my grandparents are catholic and they raised my parents as Catholics (I.e going to a catholic school, church, etc), but, now they don't go to church mainly because they only did when they were young because it was forced on them. They allowed me to choose my beliefs (despite my grandparents trying to intervene) because they thought what their parents did by forcing a religion on someone is morally wrong.

At family gatherings (especially when my father's sister's kids have their conformation) I have to keep this knowledge (theory of evolution) of mine to myself, especially if my cousins ask me as to if I ever had my
conformation. I respect my relatives religous beliefs because I love them, but something tells me that the
feeling would not be mutual. My parents would probably get blamed for why I believe in evolution.

The ironic part of this though is that I don't use evolution to explain the origin of life, I use it to understand how life has advanced. I will never believe that god created life for two pretty good reasons:

- People assume god is a man (why not a woman - 21st century and we still have this man>woman view - disgusting.), hence, if god is a man why did the most primal creatures reproduce from splitting or asexually reproducing.

- Matter can NOT be created as this violates the biggest principle of physics (conservation of energy).

So how life started on Earth is still an open question, like with the big bang theory we know what happened ~10^-41 seconds after, but at time t=0?, Here is an even better question: "does time t = 0" even exist? Yes I know this sounds contradictory but it could be like a mathematical function where f(0) does not exist, but, as t -> 0 you will get something.     

What about t= -1 ?

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Big Bang sounds very fishy...

[QuantumJG]

Big Bang sounds very fishy...

I'm confused! "big bang sounds fishy"?

[TrueTears]

Big Bang sounds very fishy...

I'm confused! "big bang sounds fishy"?

lol the name sounds fishy to me but the theory behind it doesn't. I keep thinking of dbz big bang kamehameha when I hear "big bang theory" -.-

[Mao]

Big Bang sounds very fishy...

I'm confused! "big bang sounds fishy"?

lol the name sounds fishy to me but the theory behind it doesn't. I keep thinking of dbz big bang kamehameha when I hear "big bang theory" -.-

Big bang theory: for no apparent reason, incredible amounts of matter was created. Through extremely improbable odds of:
- *slightly* more matter was created than antimatter
- there were small density fluctuations which allowed gravity to form clusters of matter
- nuclear fusion to create matter beyond hydrogen, then the spread of this matter by exploding stars
- extremely complicated combination of atoms which eventually became us, a massive massive structure made of very large and complex organic molecules.

God: for no apparent reason, God was there, he created us.

Both sounds as plausible as each other, honestly.

[kurrymuncher]

Unfortunately, there is a group of creationists that have a knack of saying "We don't want evolution taught in schools" and/or "They should teach alternative theories in schools."

That is forcing their belief onto people, because regardless of what individuals think, evolution *is* currently an integral part of modern biology.

This is so true an I will give you a bit of my history.

It took me until the age of 16 to learn about the theory of evolution. The main reason is that my grandparents are catholic and they raised my parents as Catholics (I.e going to a catholic school, church, etc), but, now they don't go to church mainly because they only did when they were young because it was forced on them. They allowed me to choose my beliefs (despite my grandparents trying to intervene) because they thought what their parents did by forcing a religion on someone is morally wrong.

At family gatherings (especially when my father's sister's kids have their conformation) I have to keep this knowledge (theory of evolution) of mine to myself, especially if my cousins ask me as to if I ever had my
conformation. I respect my relatives religous beliefs because I love them, but something tells me that the
feeling would not be mutual. My parents would probably get blamed for why I believe in evolution.

The ironic part of this though is that I don't use evolution to explain the origin of life, I use it to understand how life has advanced. I will never believe that god created life for two pretty good reasons:

- People assume god is a man (why not a woman - 21st century and we still have this man>woman view - disgusting.), hence, if god is a man why did the most primal creatures reproduce from splitting or asexually reproducing.

- Matter can NOT be created as this violates the biggest principle of physics (conservation of energy).

So how life started on Earth is still an open question, like with the big bang theory we know what happened ~10^-41 seconds after, but at time t=0?, Here is an even better question: "does time t = 0" even exist? Yes I know this sounds contradictory but it could be like a mathematical function where f(0) does not exist, but, as t -> 0 you will get something.      

What about t= -1 ?

what about t=-1??  there is no such thing. What are you trying to say? 

[kamil9876]

lulz hypothetically, if t=-1 was known (and nothing before it) then would it become the new t=0? and then the age of the universe, to our knowledge will get a +1 (translation in t-axis(just for the sake of adding redundant mathematical obscurities, as I see is the trend lately)).

[TrueTears]

lulz hypothetically, if t=-1 was known (and nothing before it) then would it become the new t=0? and then the age of the universe, to our knowledge will get a +1 (translation in t-axis(just for the sake of adding redundant mathematical obscurities, as I see is the trend lately)).

LOL hahahhahahaahah

[kurrymuncher]

lulz hypothetically, if t=-1 was known (and nothing before it) then would it become the new t=0? and then the age of the universe, to our knowledge will get a +1 (translation in t-axis(just for the sake of adding redundant mathematical obscurities, as I see is the trend lately)).

but, what if there were also dilations about the t axis, what would happen then??

[TrueTears]

lulz hypothetically, if t=-1 was known (and nothing before it) then would it become the new t=0? and then the age of the universe, to our knowledge will get a +1 (translation in t-axis(just for the sake of adding redundant mathematical obscurities, as I see is the trend lately)).

but, what if there were also dilations about the t axis, what would happen then??

Hence there exists Einstein's time dilation formula. You could use that.

[kurrymuncher]

lulz hypothetically, if t=-1 was known (and nothing before it) then would it become the new t=0? and then the age of the universe, to our knowledge will get a +1 (translation in t-axis(just for the sake of adding redundant mathematical obscurities, as I see is the trend lately)).

but, what if there were also dilations about the t axis, what would happen then??

Hence there exists Einstein's time dilation formula. You could use that.

ahhhh yeah shit. forgot about those.

[excal]

I always thought dilations precluded time from changing phase (is that the correct word?)?

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I think the big bang theory might be superseded by M theory... I don't like big bang theory because, at the moment, it provides no explanation for why the universe began - the very claim for which it is so popularly famous. It completely misses the point. While it is a good explanation up to the Planck era , but it gives us nothing beforehand, and I don't think it ever will.

[enwiabe]

LOL /0

M-theory doesn't have anything to do with the universe. It's a theory which ties together string theory and some other speculative theories and attempts to solve the conundrum of "if cells are made up of atoms which are made up of protons, neutrons, electrons which are made up of quarks which are made up of even smaller shit WHAT IS THE SMALLER SHIT MADE UP OF?!?!?!?"

And so M-theorists think we're really just vibrating bundles of energy strings! But unfortunately, it's got nothing about the beginning of the universe. Big bang theory is still the leading theory but requires major refinement.

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