WTF!! Where is Daniel?????

[bigtick]

hello, see who is talking

[hellomoto]

You'd think that with 18 days left 'till the english exam, you lot would have something better to do. Guess not.

Yea buddy, how about you go write another 10000 word guide on something, then talk about having better things to do

[dekoyl]

I guess this kinda stops any leechers if he doesn't want them. Or, he might be doing it because some schools use commercial trial exams as SACs, so he will put them away for this period of time.

There's also been an influx of people who just sign up to say "ne1 got [Company] 2009. i desperatly need it"

[doboman]

hello, see who is talking

Had the potential to be such a good comeback, but I'm not in VCE, so meh.

Marks for trying though.

[ninwa]

RAMBLY ESSAY WARNING

I fully expect this post to be removed, because as a moderator I probably shouldn't be saying this. Though, admin, I'll happily give up my moderator privileges if it means I can exercise my freedom of speech.

But anyway.

I don't (want to?) believe that the law is so harsh as to punish high school and university students for attempting to create a more even playing ground. The copyright laws were enacted primarily to protect the rights of the creators of intellectual property to full credit for their work. The majority of copyright infringement cases deal with people obtaining commercial rewards from the work of other people.

Practice exams are bought by schools, not students. Putting them up on VN for students to download will not change that fact. Prosperous schools will continue to purchase trial exams by the bucket-load and students in poorer schools will continue to miss out.

As far as I know, nobody is gaining any financial benefit from these exams being uploaded here.

Being a scholarship student who would otherwise never have been able to afford to attend the school I did, I'm aware of how lucky I was to have access to such a wide range of valuable resources. And of how arbitrary and fickle the barrier is between students with access, and students without.

In a perfect world, parental wealth would never be the determinant of the amount of resources we have access to. Unfortunately, this isn't a perfect world. But sharing of exams fills in some of the cracks.

There is following the rules, and then there is following what you truly believe to be right and wrong.


That said:
- The main thing I've learned from 2 years at law school is that the law is not necessarily synonymous with justice.
- Excalibur was perfectly within his rights and powers to do what he did.
- I agree with everything shinny said.
- I don't appreciate this:

He has nothing better to do then delete exams on a VCE site when his not even in VCE himself.

I graduated from VCE 2 years ago, but I choose to remain here and impart whatever experience-based advice I can. It doesn't mean I have nothing better to do, thanks.

[hellomoto]

- I don't appreciate this:

He has nothing better to do then delete exams on a VCE site when his not even in VCE himself.

I graduated from VCE 2 years ago, but I choose to remain here and impart whatever experience-based advice I can. It doesn't mean I have nothing better to do, thanks.

lol why don't you read it in the context that its in. You appear to be reading it as "he has nothing better to do then remain on a VCE site when his not even in VCE himself"

Whereas it actually says "he has nothing better to do THEN DELETE EXAMS ON A VCE SITE"...

[ninwa]

Whereas it actually says "he has nothing better to do THEN DELETE EXAMS ON A VCE SITE"...

when his not even in VCE himself.

Your point being? Not being in VCE has to do with it how?

[hellomoto]

Whereas it actually says "he has nothing better to do THEN DELETE EXAMS ON A VCE SITE"...

when his not even in VCE himself.

Your point being? Not being in VCE has to do with it how?

Simple really. His detachment from the VCE, as his already graduated, allows him to fulfill the selfish act of removing exams. Just because there no longer useful for him, he takes the assistance away from others. Power abuse. Dog act.

BTW. Out of curiousity, did you consider your last, long post to be some sort of huge rebellious rant (as this leads me to believe:)

I fully expect this post to be removed, because as a moderator I probably shouldn't be saying this. Though, admin, I'll happily give up my moderator privileges if it means I can exercise my freedom of speech.

It wasn't that special. Why would the post be deleted. lol

[ninwa]

It wasn't that special. Why would the post be deleted. lol

Because it is against the moderation team's official stance. I would have thought that was pretty obvious.

[hellomoto]

It wasn't that special. Why would the post be deleted. lol

Because it is against the moderation team's official stance. I would have thought that was pretty obvious.

And thats because we live in a society where if you disagree with anything from a higher authority, you are shut down, shoved to the side and your opinion is nullified, right?

[ninwa]

Sigh.

The 'official stance' follows the letter of the law. My stance does not. Therefore, the "higher authority" may want to take action to detach my stance from that of the official.

[hellomoto]

Sigh.

The 'official stance' follows the letter of the law. My stance does not. Therefore, the "higher authority" may want to take action to detach my stance from that of the official.

Why would they not let you express your opinion though. They may not listen to it, why would they get rid of it. Its an opinion. That patriotic, yet bogus resignation (

I'll happily give up my moderator privileges if it means I can exercise my freedom of speech.

) just seems like a load of attention seeking crap to me, personally. But then again thats just my opinion.

[ninwa]

... Are you serious?

How else is my stance supposed to be detached from the "official" one, except by either
- deleting my post; or
- removing my mod privileges??

[hellomoto]

... Are you serious?

How else is my stance supposed to be detached from the "official" one, except by either
- deleting my post; or
- removing my mod privileges??

Try a simple post detaching it? No need for theatrics; posing resignation. etc

[ninwa]

I would have thought keeping me on as a moderator would imply an acceptance/endorsement of my stance.

But if the "theatrics" upset you so much (rather than my actual arguments), then that is a problem you have with me, and thus should be kept to PMs rather than drawing this even further off topic.