Sri Lankan Asylum Seekers - Accept or Reject?

[mypurpleundercracka]

i dont particularly like their blackmail (to blow up the boat, well wont give you the name of the people smuggler who arranged this unlessu u let us in etc etc)
, but i do feel a bit of sympathy for them..... i just hope they wont be like those fukn sudanese 'refugees' who form gangs and terrorize n stab ppl in Noble park .

my mate threw one of these "refugees" down a flight of stairs at dandy station a couple weeks ago  :laugh:

goes back to my point how so many refugees fail to fit into society.

yep and then every wednesday and thursday u open the local paper and theres nearly always a headline story on how they are the sole ethnic group being "discriminated" against 

[TrueLight]

reject

[xXNovaxX]

reject

ALL refugees in GENERAL :S Bit harsh no? :S Some have undoubtedly contributed to our society, please don't ask for names otherwise ultimate FAIL. But surely....some...

[TrueLight]

illegally coming to australia.... don't we pay for them for holding them on christmas island? do they get jobs and pay taxes and be productive?... but as someone said before ... we let some people come in and then more people come and more and more... they have a country ... and i know they had a war...whose fault was that? blame them

[mypurpleundercracka]

illegally coming to australia.... don't we pay for them for holding them on christmas island? do they get jobs and pay taxes and be productive?... but as someone said before ... we let some people come in and then more people come and more and more... they have a country ... and i know they had a war...whose fault was that? blame them

+1

[xXNovaxX]

But then you can also argue why is everything having to be for the ECONOMIC benefit. the SOCIAL benefit is just as important.

[TrueLight]

everything relates economically ... this is what a capitalist system is ...by being productive it lifts the living standards for everyone

[haneybee]

reject

ALL refugees in GENERAL :S Bit harsh no? :S Some have undoubtedly contributed to our society, please don't ask for names otherwise ultimate FAIL. But surely....some...

Yeah. I think if refugees are given an opportunity to assimilate into Australian society they can succeed. After all, Australia calls itself a nation which values a "fair go" right?

I'm not endorsing that we should always tolerate illegal immigrants or that we shouldn't have regulations. I merely think that the government should show a bit more compassion, rather than referring to people smugglers as "vile species" as Rudd stated.

[xXNovaxX]

...people smugglers ARE vile species.

People smugglers are different to refugees/asylum seekers. They are the ones gaining MONEY from illegally transporting the people. There is universal agreement people smugglers are bad, we're talking about the actual CARGO, not the captains.

Rudd and his Government has shown A LOT more compassion than the Liberals who undertook the Pacific Solution of sending refugees to OFF-SHORE facilities run by private companies. Rudd has also abolished debt for refugees. Under the Howard Government refugees were charged thousands and thousands for being kept in these facilities.

The Liberals also turned back a Norwegian ship which had intercepted a boat of refugees and brought them to Australia for processing. Thereby putting the refugees in danger (must make clear the Norweigen ship was just a trade ship on its way back to wherever, and it intercepted the refugees, the Norwegian ship was by no means related to people smuggling). I think this was the "Tampa" incident.

On the news the Liberals are continually calling for the Labor Party to "toughen up" on refugees, because they are showing compassion. I think the way policies are now is fine.

[qshyrn]

...people smugglers ARE vile species.

People smugglers are different to refugees/asylum seekers. They are the ones gaining MONEY from illegally transporting the people. There is universal agreement people smugglers are bad, we're talking about the actual CARGO, not the captains.

Rudd and his Government has shown A LOT more compassion than the Liberals who undertook the Pacific Solution of sending refugees to OFF-SHORE facilities run by private companies. Rudd has also abolished debt for refugees. Under the Howard Government refugees were charged thousands and thousands for being kept in these facilities.

The Liberals also turned back a Norwegian ship which had intercepted a boat of refugees and brought them to Australia for processing. Thereby putting the refugees in danger (must make clear the Norweigen ship was just a trade ship on its way back to wherever, and it intercepted the refugees, the Norwegian ship was by no means related to people smuggling). I think this was the "Tampa" incident.

On the news the Liberals are continually calling for the Labor Party to "toughen up" on refugees, because they are showing compassion. I think the way policies are now is fine.

whats even worse is that ppl smugglers are sometimes australians themselves

[xXNovaxX]

YES! A "few boatloads ago" (lol not really helping my stance),they were Australian citizens in charge of the operations.

[Trent]

Reject!

[xXNovaxX]

I Reject! those who argue anti-refugees

jokes.

[xXNovaxX]

This may be a BIT far-fetched and taking it over the top (a welcome mat :| )
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/10/19/2718331.htm

But it is one of the reasons I love Australia.

The main points are

• The head of the Australian Workers Union (AWU) says the Government should put out a welcome mat for the Sri Lankan asylum seekers docked
• I expect that Labor should and must take the moral high ground on this matter because this is about social justice. This is about upholding the rule of law. This is about doing the right thing as a first world developed nation, and it's about doing the right thing for our communities."
• "There was much community resentment and opposition to Vietnamese refugees being brought into our country," he said.
  
  "But now several decades later, no one could dispute the fact that it has been a positive thing for our nation, a positive thing for those individuals.

I do not necessarily agree with all the points made, however what I am trying to show is the VALUES we must use..

[samuch]

im sorry for reviving this thread but i am doing an oral on this and am fighting against asylum seekers. i was just wondering since i have to pretend to be someone, who could i possibly be and who could i be speaking to since the government is already against the idea... ?
i was thinking i could be someone from the government and then be talking to the community but i dont know... what do you guys think?
any suggestions would be much appreciated