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Re: Recreational Problems (SM level)
« Reply #240 on: October 12, 2009, 07:48:01 pm »
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for more rigour i would sandwhich the motherfucker:


The order hierarchy is rigorous, but there is no point reproving all of those results here.  The idea I've used is that , which is enough to establish that this limit goes to zero :P

Refrain from spamming, if you will TrueTears.  This isn't the place.
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Re: Recreational Problems (SM level)
« Reply #241 on: October 12, 2009, 07:59:32 pm »
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Must there be a purpose?

(what was the purpose of your answer?)

The purpose of my answer was to illustrate this question's lack of a purpose.
How was it spamming when I was replying to this?

(btw I loved your double ninja delete)
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Re: Recreational Problems (SM level)
« Reply #242 on: October 12, 2009, 08:06:43 pm »
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Is it wrong for people to ask questions, lol??
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Re: Recreational Problems (SM level)
« Reply #243 on: October 12, 2009, 08:13:42 pm »
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for more rigour i would sandwhich the motherfucker:


The order hierarchy is rigorous, but there is no point reproving all of those results here.  The idea I've used is that , which is enough to establish that this limit goes to zero :P

Refrain from spamming, if you will TrueTears.  This isn't the place.

O ok. I had this in mind: then and hence the sequence contains smaller terms than hence approaches . That's like my noob way that I've been using for some time now.

What is that function btw?
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Re: Recreational Problems (SM level)
« Reply #244 on: October 12, 2009, 08:34:39 pm »
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for more rigour i would sandwhich the motherfucker:


The order hierarchy is rigorous, but there is no point reproving all of those results here.  The idea I've used is that , which is enough to establish that this limit goes to zero :P

Refrain from spamming, if you will TrueTears.  This isn't the place.

O ok. I had this in mind: then and hence the sequence contains smaller terms than hence approaches . That's like my noob way that I've been using for some time now.

What is that function btw?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_O_notation

Very useful tool for talking about the behaviour of a function as it approaches a limit (you use it all the time in areas like analytic number theory or the theory of algorithms).
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Re: Recreational Problems (SM level)
« Reply #245 on: November 08, 2009, 05:52:07 pm »
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I'm guessing TT had Stirling's formula (or a slightly weaker version) in mind, this post is an interesting read.
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Re: Recreational Problems (SM level)
« Reply #246 on: December 20, 2010, 09:57:49 pm »
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Not sure if these problems from the original set have been solved yet, but I'll have a crack at some of the 'easier' ones:

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13. If made sense, what would x equal?

Since , then which means .

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16. Solve the equation .

Factorise:

By null factor law: , , or

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17. Solve .





By the quadratic formula,

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15. Solve .

Probably not the best way, but by inspection, 9 is a factor.

Rearranging,

Since 9 is a factor, by long division, we have:



Solving ,

So solutions are: , , or

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18. (n-radicals).







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Re: Recreational Problems (SM level)
« Reply #247 on: January 06, 2011, 09:54:32 pm »
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(x-7)(x-3)(x+5)(x+1)=1680
(x+5)(x+1)(x-3)(x-7)=7.5.3.2.2.2.2
Notice that on the left the first factor > second factor by 4, the second factor > third factor by 4 , etc.
Arrange the factors on the right to get 4 factors: (7.2)(5.2)(3.2)2=14.10.6.2
Another possible arrangement: -2(3.-2)(5.-2)(7.-2)=-2.-6.-10.-14
So x=9 or x=-7

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Re: Recreational Problems (SM level)
« Reply #248 on: January 07, 2011, 05:11:38 pm »
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Could someone explain the trick used by brightsky for questions 13 and 18 please? I've never seen it in a textbook and it seems really useful. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Recreational Problems (SM level)
« Reply #249 on: January 07, 2011, 10:21:18 pm »
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13.    sqrt(x+sqrt(x+...))=2,  square both sides, x+sqrt(x+sqrt(x+...))=4, x+2=4, x=2

18.    same as 13,
Or for any n radicals, the statement is true, consider n=1, so sqrt(3x)=x, 3x=x^2, x^2-3x=0, x=0 or x=3.

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Re: Recreational Problems (SM level)
« Reply #250 on: January 07, 2011, 10:33:19 pm »
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Now try this

1+2/(1+2/(1+2/(1+2/........../(1+2/x)..........)))=x, find x.

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Re: Recreational Problems (SM level)
« Reply #251 on: January 09, 2011, 11:36:18 am »
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Re: Recreational Problems (SM level)
« Reply #252 on: January 09, 2011, 04:28:04 pm »
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Notice

Integrate by parts:



Since

Therefore

Also,

Therefore the integral becomes:





Since

So:





Notice that the can be manipulated to the LHS:



So now the only problem we have is: , which isn't really methodical (easiest way is probably by trick):



Do u-substitution with u = csc(x) - cot(x) and it will result in ln|csc(x) - cot(x)|.

Divide both sides of the original equation by 2 and we have the answer we need.
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Re: Recreational Problems (SM level)
« Reply #253 on: January 09, 2011, 06:28:22 pm »
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Another method:



Then u-substitution will finish it.

u-substitution works for all odd powers of and too:

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Re: Recreational Problems (SM level)
« Reply #254 on: March 29, 2011, 11:10:46 pm »
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evaluate the definite integral of sin^2011 (x) /(sin^2011 (x) + cos^2011 (x)) from 0 to pi/2 wrt x.