NIE for UMAT?

[mystikal]

NIE and Medentry are on par with eachother coz they both have there own strong and weak points.

NIE:
-hard copy
-24/7 help (which is good, but sumtimes there is a queue)
-Questions are decent
-I rkn there section 1 and section 2 are abit iffy in terms of question quality/difficulty compared to that of the actual UMAT.
-Section 3 is very good particularly because they give u alot of questions and plus its hardcopy so u can do it in your spare time anywhere, which why it is soo convenient, its like doin a sudoku on a train.

MedEntry:
-Online, which means its harder due to u might have to keep lookin at the screen and it gives a different feel to the situation.
-Give good answers/explanations to questions.
-Timed conditions which forces you to actually try, not coz u want to do well, but u want to get your money's worth and the tests are only on during certain times and its a one off thing.
-They grade you based on the cohort (but do not use this as an accurate predictor on how well u will do on the actual UMAT)
-The quality of questions is good in general difficulty and relevance is close to that of the UMAT

Overall both have pros and cons, if possible y dont u do both as in, if a friend does NIE and u do Medentry u can share it like  the person who does NIE does it in pencil and the one doing Medentry can lend their account for the drills since u can repeat them as much as u want. Getting the best of both worlds. U can also do acer books to get a feel of the difficulty

Remember the UMAT isnt like VCE maths/science subjects u cant really study for it but u can condition your minds or gain experience through these programs. Section 3 in particular can be improved the most through alot of practice. But the other 2 sections , you can only go so far with the programs, the rest is up to your potential/understandings unfortunately.

Good Luck

[stonecold]

we should all put in like $40, purchase the thing, then go down to officeworks and photocopy it.

i'm kinda serious haha!

[darkphoenix]

Officeworks employees: "So, you guys photocopying some homework?"

Us: "Uhh yeah"

LOL!

[stonecold]

good old self serve photocopiers

[slothpomba]

The two people who used NIE in this thread said it was pretty sub-par.

I haven't really heard of anyone i know doing NIE so perhaps a little caution, ive heard medentry is decent from many people though.

[I know nothing about NIE I'm solely judging on what I've read in this thread.]
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Edit: The way i see it, personally, is you just can not improve that much on section 1 or 2. Any half decent UMAT prep program would be able to give you a good idea of those kind of questions and prepare you for the UMAT so you don't show up and suddenly go into a panic.

What i'm looking for (yes, i still haven't signed up, im doing it this week) in a UMAT prep program is the section 3 content and the quality of the lectures.

As far as I'm aware, MedEntry has some kind of section 3 generator program, which will generate an unlimited number of problems. This seems advantageous, since i believe section 3 is the easiest to improve on. If you do enough of them im sure you'll just be able to look at them and almost immediately see the answer.

However, the strategies provided in the NIE books sound promising:
"Define components of understanding: psychology, emotions, feelings and empathy.
 Provide a strategy for ethical decision making."

"Outline academic understanding of the Argument, the Question and the Answers.
  Define the different types of Logical Reasoning questions."

They are trying to sell you something though and perhaps these strategies come down to common sense but who really knows.

(I started out trying to prove MedEntry was the better choice... now im back to both being equal )

[akira88]

Yeah NIE doesn't look great. You note in its website it has a grammatical error and they also incorrectly spell "proffesional". Makes you wonder...

Apparently it's not good, the questions are not really related to the real UMAT and that they don't give explanations for the answers of the questions.

[slothpomba]

Yeah looked a bit dodgy to me too...

I'd rather go with the trusted MedEntry than show up to some NIE seminar and get robbed by the guy

[akira88]

Yeah looked a bit dodgy to me too...

I'd rather go with the trusted MedEntry than show up to some NIE seminar and get robbed by the guy

Lol yeah. The other day I went to my careers person at school (or whatever they're called... career counsellors?) and we went and looked up all the different programs offering UMAT prep. We found one, and it was SO dodgy. They hadn't updated the date, and said, "prepare for the 2009 UMAT!" It had various ads on its website to "WIN $5000!" and last of all, had absurd claims. My careers counsellor checked the contact details of them, and it looked really suspicious as they had only provided a phone number to pay for this so called UMAT prep course. She called them up, and disconnected. She also called another one of their numbers, disconnected. What a SCAM!

[slothpomba]

Haha man that is incredibly dodgy.

On the medentry site it says they sued some guy for ripping off all their questions and he was like bankrupt twice or something.. so dodgy lol.

[m@tty]

Haha man that is incredibly dodgy.

On the medentry site it says they sued some guy for ripping off all their questions and he was like bankrupt twice or something.. so dodgy lol.

Haha, reminded me of this...   :2funny:

[Caspar]

Loving my mensa books. My mensa books didn't cost $500.

[Bohr]

Are you a member of Mensa?

[Caspar]

No lol. You can just get them at bookshops/libraries. They have similar questions to section 1 puzzle type questions and to section 3 in general.