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Re: Gillard vs Abbott - Who will you vote for? POLL
« Reply #165 on: August 21, 2010, 11:41:37 pm »
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omg yes theres no clear labor win!
i hope the independents are good and will be against so much bad policies
but yeah this shows how many people are unhappy with politics and julia gillard
but hoping theres more of a stuggle to pass legislation and they will actually have to debate it properly... very close

but i think this trend where one doesn't win out right will continue. like uk and the trend will probably continue in america

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« Reply #166 on: August 22, 2010, 01:17:00 am »
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this election is fucking insane. exciting!
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« Reply #167 on: August 22, 2010, 01:21:19 am »
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Just got home, had no access to mass media. Fill me in crappy what's going on

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Re: Gillard vs Abbott - Who will you vote for? POLL
« Reply #168 on: August 22, 2010, 01:22:37 am »
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Donkey votes ftw.

Abbott = near the top.
A for Arsehole.

The AEC are aware of people donkey voting so the order of the ballot paper is actually now randomised.

0.o Randomised. Finally ~

It's actually been randomised for a while now, certainly before you and I were born.
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« Reply #169 on: August 22, 2010, 01:23:16 am »
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Basically - hung parliament

None of the parties have enough to be able to make government by themselves. Cue drama in the next few days.
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« Reply #170 on: August 22, 2010, 01:30:32 am »
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Just got home, had no access to mass media. Fill me in crappy what's going on

Basically - hung parliament

None of the parties have enough to be able to make government by themselves. Cue drama in the next few days.

Holy shi-

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« Reply #171 on: August 22, 2010, 02:38:37 am »
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omg yes theres no clear labor win!
i hope the independents are good and will be against so much bad policies
but yeah this shows how many people are unhappy with politics and julia gillard
but hoping theres more of a stuggle to pass legislation and they will actually have to debate it properly... very close

but i think this trend where one doesn't win out right will continue. like uk and the trend will probably continue in america



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« Reply #172 on: August 22, 2010, 08:59:07 am »
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I would have taken a liberal victory over a hung parliament. Sigh.

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Re: Gillard vs Abbott - Who will you vote for? POLL
« Reply #173 on: August 22, 2010, 01:19:22 pm »
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omg yes theres no clear labor win!
i hope the independents are good and will be against so much bad policies
but yeah this shows how many people are unhappy with politics and julia gillard
but hoping theres more of a stuggle to pass legislation and they will actually have to debate it properly... very close

but i think this trend where one doesn't win out right will continue. like uk and the trend will probably continue in america


I would say it means that people are equally unhappy with both parties, not just the labor party.

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« Reply #174 on: August 22, 2010, 01:59:57 pm »
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the liberal party has done very well this election, it's mostly a backlash against the ALP.

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Re: Gillard vs Abbott - Who will you vote for? POLL
« Reply #175 on: August 22, 2010, 03:14:59 pm »
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omg yes theres no clear labor win!
i hope the independents are good and will be against so much bad policies
but yeah this shows how many people are unhappy with politics and julia gillard
but hoping theres more of a stuggle to pass legislation and they will actually have to debate it properly... very close

but i think this trend where one doesn't win out right will continue. like uk and the trend will probably continue in america


I would say it means that people are equally unhappy with both parties, not just the labor party.

I'm not so sure about that statement, you don't just gain 17 seats across five states and territories if people are unhappy about your policies. This election has really shown the division of ideals, where some with an open heart want progress regardless of debt, and others who are more conservative with values, money and immigration. It just shows that too much of anything is not good, people of the latter group clearly didn't like Labor's values imposed onto them.

The liberals have done well, and Tony Abbott has gained credibility and regained trust from many Australians. Labor won't last long this time, considering the factional powerhouses won't be happy about the outcomes at all. I sense Wayne Swann stabbing Gillard in the back soon.

Also, congratulations to the youngest MP (20 yo) in QLD, and also the first Indigenous Australian MP.
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« Reply #176 on: August 22, 2010, 03:33:26 pm »
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I don't think Wayne Swann is fit to be PM (but then again,  I think the same thing about Tony Abbott and he may well be PM-elect by the end of the next couple of weeks).

I think this was a difficult election in terms of capturing national sentiment, because there wasn't one. The swings towards and against Labor were all over the place, it seemed to depend mostly on local issues, because people as sure as hell were not engaged by talk at a national level. The commentators were at least suggesting that the election would be really difficult to call because there was a real diversity in views. I would suggest though that the major swing towards the Greens (really, it was astounding) in most electorates might suggest that people are beginning to look at other options because the two-party system isn't doing it for them anymore. That's not to say people aren't sick of labour, but the liberal party hasn't exactly won either.

I think it is also misleading to suggest that 17 seats is a huge shift towards liberal when all of them were extraordinarily marginal to begin with and the difference could well be attributed to the rezoning of many seats. Additionally, the swing against labour in the primary vote was not at all matched by the swing towards the liberal party - the swing to the liberal party was relatively small (+1.8), it was other parties that managed to gain substantially on the primary votes.

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« Reply #177 on: August 22, 2010, 03:35:41 pm »
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Oh and if you look at the break-down: http://www.abc.net.au/elections/federal/2010/guide/sop.htm
In VIC, TAS and SA there was actually a swing AWAY from the liberal party.

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« Reply #178 on: August 22, 2010, 03:43:11 pm »
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lets see if this "ideals" mean anything

but i was reading this guys comment

"Oakeshott: wants an ETS
Katter: Climate skeptic, but very anti-free market
Bandt: Greens candidate – ’nuff said
Wilkie: Former Greens, doesn’t like Libs much
Windsor: No idea where he stands

*sigh* We’ve all complained about lack of choice between minor parties – but are these the best alternatives?"
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this is not looking promising =(... i hope the countries wealth doesn't get squandered even more
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« Reply #179 on: August 22, 2010, 05:07:22 pm »
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I think both major parties did dreadfully, and that's reflected in the result.
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