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Cianyx

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Re: Racism or rape?
« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2010, 09:32:57 pm »
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Foreign media making Israel look bad? Mainstream western media supports Israel bro. And what the other two said

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« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2010, 09:49:01 pm »
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Foreign media making Israel look bad? Mainstream western media supports Israel bro. And what the other two said

Oh really? Provide evidence.
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Cianyx

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« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2010, 07:02:12 pm »
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Okay. Perhaps western was a bad choice of a word. Let's say US.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/04/gaza-flotilla-activists-autopsy-results
I'm sure we are all familiar with the flotilla activists. According to their autopsies, they were brutally executed, not 'fired upon in defence'. This is quite groundbreaking news so I did a search on New York Times, the biggest and most famous newspaper in the US. Only mention I could find was this "The Anatolia news agency reported that an autopsy showed that Mr. Dogan had been shot at close range, once in the chest and four times in the head". To top it off, it was in a mere blog post.

But you can see why that occurs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_United_Nations
The US has been extremely protective of Israel, constantly shielding them from criticisms from the UN and Geneva. "Persistent use of its veto power to prevent the Security Council from issuing resolutions protesting actions by the Israeli military has frequently isolated the U.S. from the other four members of the Security Council"

So considering the amount of atrocities committed, I would say the media has been quite kind to them. And yeah, racism is bad and something

Edit: Just saw this, http://bigjournalism.com/robmiller/2010/09/07/the-decline-and-fall-of-time-magazine-this-weeks-anti-semitic-cover/
So I guess you could argue the opposite
« Last Edit: September 08, 2010, 07:10:17 pm by Cianyx »

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Re: Racism or rape?
« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2010, 07:58:51 pm »
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Also, Yitzi, from the blog you yourself linked to:

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This July, Israeli and world media enthusiastically covered

Why only target western media?

You're guilty of the very thing you accuse "western" media of supposedly doing.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2010, 10:07:59 pm by ninwa »
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Cianyx

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« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2010, 08:09:04 pm »
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And could you clarify what you meant by your statement? Are you calling me bias for calling them bias? Note that I also detracted the word "western".

Edit: Found the link, it appears we were referring to two entirely different things so I apologise for the off-topic posts. I'll post a response to your comment soon. You may ignore my last post and if need be, I'll gladly delete them

Since we're on this topic, can someone help clear up a number of stuff?
Aside from the victim's rather graphic and detailed testimonial, I'm having quite a bit of trouble searching for physical evidence to support her testimony as well as the defence's case.(Found the defence's testimony, apparently she was soliciting sex)
Why did the prosecution settle for a lesser sentence? If her story was that terrifying, why would anyone settle with anything less than rape?
Why did the police arrest him for a "fight with a security guard"?
Why was the trial conducted behind closed doors? (I believe that only occurs when a minor occurs but a law student may correct me on this)

I won't accuse any party here for racism or being biased but there are a number of unanswered questions that should have been addressed instead of being brushed aside. Funny thing, everyone was up in arms when Stern Hu's trial was behind closed doors

Now off with the tin foil hat, and on to my personal opinion.
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"It is terrible, but the law says very clearly that if someone has sexual intercourse using deception about his identity to conduct the act, it can be considered rape," said Leah Samael, a lawyer specializing in civil rights and human rights cases.
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/07/21/israel.rape.by.deception/index.html#fbid=ofQPLMkX_Bm&wom=false
According to this, the verdict was fair as deception was an agreed fact between the parties. I still stand behind the fact that the procedure was poorly conducted and not criticised enough. I don't even understand why this is world news tbh
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Re: Racism or rape?
« Reply #35 on: September 08, 2010, 10:07:12 pm »
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Cianyx... I agree with you... that post was addressed to Yitzi... my bad.
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Re: Racism or rape?
« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2010, 10:22:01 pm »
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Thread has gone off-topic - start new thread if you wish to discuss the media and Israel further.

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