UMAT 2011

[mikee65]

Theres a course 11th and 12th of December at RMIT, I really want to start preparing early for next year, anybody looking to do umat 2011 please PM me so we can organise a group and get a discount on total price. thanks

[vea]

Hey can you link me this information?
I will be doing UMAT next year.

Cheers

[mikee65]

Hey can you link me this information?
I will be doing UMAT next year.

Cheers

google medentry for more info

[MBBS]

Can anyone recommend a good UMAT prep course?

I've heard several times that 'MedEntry' is crap.

[iNerd]

Can anyone recommend a good UMAT prep course?

I've heard several times that 'MedEntry' is crap.

Dusnt matter; its the most reputable. They just drill yu man; drill yu! I've heard of F2F; face to face?...

[stonecold]

People will probably disagree with me, but MedEntry is a waste of time, and a dirty rip off of a company.

They will go to any length to get your business, provide only online exams, which do not simulate the real UMAT, and other than their sec 3 material, it is not a good indication of what you will get on the UMAT.

Examples of MedEntry being total scum:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undergraduate_Medicine_and_Health_Sciences_Admission_Test#Preparation_courses

www.medical-entrance.edu.au/Medentry_original_copied_quests_and_sources.doc

- There is also some website floating around which claims that they tried to pretend that their service was endorsed by the AMA which it was not.  Can't find it right now.

IMO, don't go with MedEntry.  You're better off doing what naved did and go NIE.  Hard copy material is better. Also, buy some mensa books off of eBay.  They are like $20.  Lots of people say these are good UMAT prep.

I was getting 90+ percentile on Medentry in Sec 2 a lot of the time, and in the UMAT I got a dysmal section 2 score of 43.  The questions they give you are no measure of what you'll get on the UMAT, and if anything, it will make you think you are doing well when really you're not.

[stonecold]

Can anyone recommend a good UMAT prep course?

I've heard several times that 'MedEntry' is crap.

Dusnt matter; its the most reputable. They just drill yu man; drill yu! I've heard of F2F; face to face?...

Reputable my ass.

Can anyone recommend a good UMAT prep course?

I've heard several times that 'MedEntry' is crap.

Yes, you are right.  It is crap.  The LMS is very all over the shop, and the questions had oh so many errors.  Seriosuly, DO NOT waste your money.

[brightsky]

I'm confused.

Federal Court finds Dallas Gibson of Medical-Entrance guilty!

MedEntry has comprehensively won the Federal Court case against Dallas Gibson for breach of copyright and breach of the Trade Practices Act (Claim number VID1289-2004). The court found that Dallas Gibson flagrantly violated the Commonwealth Copyright Act. Dallas Gibson's cross-claims against MedEntry were dismissed by the Judge as spurious.

MedEntry was awarded a significant sum in court costs (please click here). In addition, damages are yet to be pursued. This will result in Gibson becoming bankrupt for the fourth time.

The Judge was scathing of Gibson. Her Honour labelled him 'dishonest', criticised his qualifications as 'slight', described his conduct as 'reprehensible' and concluded that he 'fabricated' evidence' (including letters) and was 'prepared to mislead and tell untruths in order to secure business.' Gibson is in contempt of the Court by criticising the Judge and by not complying with the Court's orders.

Please click here for a summary and relevant extracts from the Judgment. A full text of the Judgement can be found on the Federal Court website: http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/FCA/2008/995.html?query=medentry

Please click here for a summary and relevant extracts from the Court Orders. A full text of the Court Orders can be found on the Federal Court website:
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/FCA/2008/1375.html

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Dallas Gibson of Medical-Entrance BANKRUPT

Dallas Gibson of Medical-Entrance/Eglobamed/Icarus/Premed is currently bankrupt. He has now been bankrupt on three separate occasions (1988, 2000 and now).

You can view the Federal Court ruling of his bankruptcy by clicking here . Alternatively, you can go to the Federal Court website (under Bankruptcy -> Court Events and Orders):

https://www.comcourts.gov.au/public/esearch/file_details/Federal/P/MLG1354/2007

For evidence of his 1988 bankruptcy, please click here.

For evidence of his 2000 bankruptcy, please click here.

In addition to being sued by MedEntry, Dallas Gibson was sued by Middletons (his ex-lawyers - Claim U02414246) and by Doherty & Colleagues Solicitors (acting for Maxim P/L) in the Melbourne Federal Magistrates court. Grievances against this man and his practices run deep and are widespread - he has been sued by three separate entities in the last 2 years. He owes substantial amounts of money to numerous organisations, such as Middletons Lawyers, Maxim Electrical Services, PBB Forensics, Clik Pad and Deloittes.

Extracted from: http://www.medentry.edu.au/news.asp

[Russ]

Medentry aren't exactly the most ethical company (the bloke who runs it is an absolute jerk) but I would stop short of calling them criminals.
If you want prep material for the UMAT, do what's been recommended and get the MENSA books + a few cheap practice booklets to get into the right mindset.

[stonecold]

yeah, they both seem very dodgy and 'at war' with each other.

but yeah, if I were to do another course, it would probably be NIE.

naved says it was really good, and it just makes sense to practice on paper.  apparently at some expo the owner of NIE was bagging out the medentry guy lol.

it seems like a cut throat business.  and everyone just remember that this is exactly what these companies are.  a business.  they have little to no interest in helping you, they are all predominantly after your money.

also, with medentry support, they never return you calls, and you can expect a 1 week wait before that reply to your emails.

edit:  haha, yeah, they are far from ethical, and they seem to have had their fair share of lawsuits in the past, and people who run other prep courses seem to be very anti ed boyapti.

there was an article in the age about a medentry lawsuit some time ago.

edit 2: here is the age article

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/teens-warned-on-medical-courses/2007/05/25/1179601670582.html

[mikee65]

yeah, they both seem very dodgy and 'at war' with each other.

but yeah, if I were to do another course, it would probably be NIE.

naved says it was really good, and it just makes sense to practice on paper.  apparently at some expo the owner of NIE was bagging out the medentry guy lol.

it seems like a cut throat business.  and everyone just remember that this is exactly what these companies are.  a business.  they have little to no interest in helping you, they are all predominantly after your money.

also, with medentry support, they never return you calls, and you can expect a 1 week wait before that reply to your emails.

edit:  haha, yeah, criminals is probably too far and me just getting worked up, but they are far from ethical, and they seem to have had their fair share of lawsuits in the past, and people who run other prep courses seem to be very anti ed boyapti.

there was an article in the age about a medentry lawsuit some time ago.

mm are you gonna do NIE stone, or the umat next year for that matter. got a link to NIE? might check it out.

[stonecold]

yeah, they both seem very dodgy and 'at war' with each other.

but yeah, if I were to do another course, it would probably be NIE.

naved says it was really good, and it just makes sense to practice on paper.  apparently at some expo the owner of NIE was bagging out the medentry guy lol.

it seems like a cut throat business.  and everyone just remember that this is exactly what these companies are.  a business.  they have little to no interest in helping you, they are all predominantly after your money.

also, with medentry support, they never return you calls, and you can expect a 1 week wait before that reply to your emails.

edit:  haha, yeah, criminals is probably too far and me just getting worked up, but they are far from ethical, and they seem to have had their fair share of lawsuits in the past, and people who run other prep courses seem to be very anti ed boyapti.

there was an article in the age about a medentry lawsuit some time ago.

mm are you gonna do NIE stone, or the umat next year for that matter. got a link to NIE? might check it out.

If I do the UMAT again, then yeah, I might do it.

http://www.nie.edu.au/

Does anyone know whether you can drop a science degree after the first year and go on to a med degree, or is this against the rules?

[mikee65]

yeah, they both seem very dodgy and 'at war' with each other.

but yeah, if I were to do another course, it would probably be NIE.

naved says it was really good, and it just makes sense to practice on paper.  apparently at some expo the owner of NIE was bagging out the medentry guy lol.

it seems like a cut throat business.  and everyone just remember that this is exactly what these companies are.  a business.  they have little to no interest in helping you, they are all predominantly after your money.

also, with medentry support, they never return you calls, and you can expect a 1 week wait before that reply to your emails.

edit:  haha, yeah, criminals is probably too far and me just getting worked up, but they are far from ethical, and they seem to have had their fair share of lawsuits in the past, and people who run other prep courses seem to be very anti ed boyapti.

there was an article in the age about a medentry lawsuit some time ago.

mm are you gonna do NIE stone, or the umat next year for that matter. got a link to NIE? might check it out.

If I do the UMAT again, then yeah, I might do it.

http://www.nie.edu.au/

Does anyone know whether you can drop a science degree after the first year and go on to a med degree, or is this against the rules?

apparently if you do something like science bachelor at melb when you do umat you apply as non standard umat candidate (harder), you can transfer to a med degree from science but the limited number of unis who offer it say you have to be studying at their uni, this is why i decided to got otago, because you can still apply ug med with a standard umat entry and you 2010 atar anywere, and also to otago med with your gpa and umat (2/3 gpa) and 1/3 umat.

[mikee65]

yea ill probably go nie, i think the thing that screwed me most was not having hard copies to practice on.

[akira88]

Are you allowed to do the UMAT again? I thought it was only for people who were in year 12 who are allowed to do it- please correct me if I'm wrong.
And yeah Medentry is not worth it, waste of $$$ and time too. I would only recommend it if you're really cashed up, have a weekend to give up or are really clueless about the whole UMAT thing. I personally think I didn't benefit from it at all, and I must admit I didn't really do the LMS....and when I did, I got shocking scores. It made me feel even more stressed. In my opinion, the best way to go about it is to do the practise UMAT questions ACER offers, and practise on those logic things in section 3.