free laptops for muslim students [offtopic]

[Cianyx]

samiira and True Light, take a step back. If you really want to do damage to him, formulate points against him. Ad hominem attacks take you nowhere

[Chavi]

For some reason I had an inkling that this discussion on Muslim VCE students accepting laptops from an NGO with links to Hamas would end up not only legitimizing the said NGO (HAI), but legitimizing HAMAS and terrorism as well.

All this, and without an inkling of evidence or a properly strung argument. It just seems inevitable that terrorist sympathizers try to escape the blame by riding the bandwagon of anti-Israel vitriol.

All those non-Muslims who are going along with their arguments - you are unwittingly supporting and legitimizing those who would like to see you dead.

First of all u were the one that started all this shittalking with terrorism and hamas.. u shud honestly just shut up and screw ur self.. and if u realized this discussion was meant to end many times.. not just by us.. but also by a few other ppl from VN.. but you's ignored and went on with ur bullshitting and kept changing the topic from one thing to another.. i am more than happy to finish this useless argument here if ur willing to stop

I think this post speaks for itself.

[samiira]

to chavi and da rest of the haters!!!  

Ive seriously had enough of ur shit.. honestly you've pushed things too far..its pointless arguing with u stubborn ppl with biased views.. i know u hate muslims.. but guess wat we dnt give damn.. ur radical notions about islam and muslims mean shit to us.. so i suggest u should go get a life!

Hate, is an emotion that takes quite a lot to stir. I think throughout this discussion, you have been missing the point completely. By equating a simple query on the links of HAI to HAMAS, you seem to construe an attack on Islam. This is not the case, and you're not doing yourself a favour.

I think if this topic has taught us but one thing, it's that the vast majority of Muslims believe that blowing up buses filled with children is an act to be condoned. After all, how else to explain the fact that every single one of the Muslims in this debate have admitted that they have no problem at all with Hamas, an organisation which has done such a thing countless times? That's a 100% success rate in Muslims supporting terrorism.

While I am not in the least bit surprised by this revelation, I do find it exceedingly disturbing.

well if this is not hatred then i am not sure wat is

[Yitzi_K]

For some reason I had an inkling that this discussion on Muslim VCE students accepting laptops from an NGO with links to Hamas would end up not only legitimizing the said NGO (HAI), but legitimizing HAMAS and terrorism as well.

All this, and without an inkling of evidence or a properly strung argument. It just seems inevitable that terrorist sympathizers try to escape the blame by riding the bandwagon of anti-Israel vitriol.

All those non-Muslims who are going along with their arguments - you are unwittingly supporting and legitimizing those who would like to see you dead.

First of all u were the one that started all this shittalking with terrorism and hamas.. u shud honestly just shut up and screw ur self.. and if u realized this discussion was meant to end many times.. not just by us.. but also by a few other ppl from VN.. but you's ignored and went on with ur bullshitting and kept changing the topic from one thing to another.. i am more than happy to finish this useless argument here if ur willing to stop

LOL so calling Hamas terrorists is 'shittalking'? I'd LOVE to hear your description of what I would call them

[Chavi]

All those non-Muslims who are going along with their arguments - you are unwittingly supporting and legitimizing those who would like to see you dead.

go freakin be a neocon in the american congress

Thank you for damaging your own credibility - I glad I didn't have to do it for you.

[Yitzi_K]

samiira and True Light, take a step back. If you really want to do damage to him, formulate points against him. Ad hominem attacks take you nowhere

Ah well, they're having a lot of trouble there, aren't they? Could it be because they have no valid points with which to argue?

[TrueLight]

i did except you obviously can't comprehend the points im trying to make

[superflya]

For some reason I had an inkling that this discussion on Muslim VCE students accepting laptops from an NGO with links to Hamas would end up not only legitimizing the said NGO (HAI), but legitimizing HAMAS and terrorism as well.

All this, and without an inkling of evidence or a properly strung argument. It just seems inevitable that terrorist sympathizers try to escape the blame by riding the bandwagon of anti-Israel vitriol.

All those non-Muslims who are going along with their arguments - you are unwittingly supporting and legitimizing those who would like to see you dead.

First of all u were the one that started all this shittalking with terrorism and hamas.. u shud honestly just shut up and screw ur self.. and if u realized this discussion was meant to end many times.. not just by us.. but also by a few other ppl from VN.. but you's ignored and went on with ur bullshitting and kept changing the topic from one thing to another.. i am more than happy to finish this useless argument here if ur willing to stop

LOL so calling Hamas terrorists is 'shittalking'? I'd LOVE to hear your description of what I would call them

out of curiousity, what would u call them?

[samiira]

to chavi and da rest of the haters!!!  

Ive seriously had enough of ur shit.. honestly you've pushed things too far..its pointless arguing with u stubborn ppl with biased views.. i know u hate muslims.. but guess wat we dnt give damn.. ur radical notions about islam and muslims mean shit to us.. so i suggest u should go get a life!

Just because we are against terrorism we hate muslims?

do u really wish to see the real terrorists.. heres u go..

WTF do you mean by that? You saying HAMAS are not terrorists?

i havent even mentioned hamas at all.. y do u cum to irrelevant conclusions..

You don't need to mention Hamas. What you implied was pretty clear.

yeh an this is how misunderstandings arise.. by u ppl cuming up with conclusions like that and causing more arguments.. can u plz concentrate on teh more important things that are in the article.. you go on about muslims being terrorists when ur own ppl are torturing innnocent kids.. and yet u choose to ignore that fact

[TrueLight]

All those non-Muslims who are going along with their arguments - you are unwittingly supporting and legitimizing those who would like to see you dead.

go freakin be a neocon in the american congress

Thank you for damaging your own credibility - I glad I didn't have to do it for you.

yeah sure... those are the pathetic arguments necons make...they would like to see ME dead ... yeah sure

[Blakhitman]

can someone also tell me

should aid be given to gaza?
who should give aid to gaza?
how will they prevent hamas from getting these funds?
if aid is somehow given how will they end up giving it?
does the Israeli government check HAI aid before it is given to gaza?
is the current aid given sufficient?

1. YES
2. Everyone
3. Pretty hard.
4. Apparently Hamas is in charge of aid distribution (I think this is Chavi's argument as to how HAI support Hamas)
5. Hope not.
6. Will never be sufficient.

Historians widely agree that the Arab world were largely responsible and complicit for the situation that the Palestinians find themselves in (i.e. as the perennial refugees, never to be resettled, always waiting on that order to swamp Israel). By inferring that Palestinians will require foreign aid indefintely you are showing everyone:

1) that you care nothing for Palestinians, you just wish to see them wallow in an endless supply of foreign aid. This simply perpetuates the feelings of victim-hood that prevents Palestinians from getting on with their lives or establishing a state. (after all, if I am guaranteed an endless supply of aid from UNRWA, why should I bother doing anything myself?)
2) You divert attention from actual catastrophes and tragedies. Focusing exclusively on Palestinians doesn't make you a humanitarian. The people who need aid now are those starving in Niger and Zimbabwe, the genocide victims (of terrorism) in Darfur, those persecuted by Al-Shabab (terrorists? touche) in Sudan, and of course the oppressed dissidents in Iran. Palestinians enjoy longer life-expectancies than most of the Arab world, and turkey. Where is the so-called humanitarian crisis?

1) After all the suffering they've been through, they deserve to be made kings in my eyes, and I wish no one ever stops giving them, even if there is no need.
2) YOU are the one diverting attention from the topic on hand (that is off-topic? :S ) which is the fact that you don't give a damn about Palestinians dying, whether they be children, women or whatever and you don't wish for them to be given aid (seriously?). BTW HAI is extremely active in aiding all those humanitarian Crises, I know because I've seen what they do first hand. But now you're gonna say "you support HAI", NO I support aid reaching those in need, including Palestinians.

[samiira]

For some reason I had an inkling that this discussion on Muslim VCE students accepting laptops from an NGO with links to Hamas would end up not only legitimizing the said NGO (HAI), but legitimizing HAMAS and terrorism as well.

All this, and without an inkling of evidence or a properly strung argument. It just seems inevitable that terrorist sympathizers try to escape the blame by riding the bandwagon of anti-Israel vitriol.

All those non-Muslims who are going along with their arguments - you are unwittingly supporting and legitimizing those who would like to see you dead.

First of all u were the one that started all this shittalking with terrorism and hamas.. u shud honestly just shut up and screw ur self.. and if u realized this discussion was meant to end many times.. not just by us.. but also by a few other ppl from VN.. but you's ignored and went on with ur bullshitting and kept changing the topic from one thing to another.. i am more than happy to finish this useless argument here if ur willing to stop

LOL so calling Hamas terrorists is 'shittalking'? I'd LOVE to hear your description of what I would call them

far out man.. c again ur cuming up with stupid conclusions.. the message of teh paragraph was that chavi started the shittalking in regards to all the terrorism crap out of no where

[TrueLight]

to chavi and da rest of the haters!!!   

Ive seriously had enough of ur shit.. honestly you've pushed things too far..its pointless arguing with u stubborn ppl with biased views.. i know u hate muslims.. but guess wat we dnt give damn.. ur radical notions about islam and muslims mean shit to us.. so i suggest u should go get a life!

Just because we are against terrorism we hate muslims?

do u really wish to see the real terrorists.. heres u go..

WTF do you mean by that? You saying HAMAS are not terrorists?

i havent even mentioned hamas at all.. y do u cum to irrelevant conclusions..

You don't need to mention Hamas. What you implied was pretty clear.

yeh an this is how misunderstandings arise.. by u ppl cuming up with conclusions like that and causing more arguments.. can u plz concentrate on teh more important things that are in the article.. you go on about muslims being terrorists when ur own ppl are torturing innnocent kids.. and yet u choose to ignore that fact

they obviously don't see how they are hypocrites ...

[samiira]

i did except you obviously can't comprehend the points im trying to make

u were right .. it is like were communicating with brick wall.. u tell them something and all they would do is pick out an irrelevant part and make a fuss about it.. they ignore the main content of what we say

[Chavi]

well if this is not hatred then i am not sure wat is

*sigh* should I point it out to you?

That is the worst rebuttal I've seen all day... mate get a grip, what are you scared? instead of being the delusional little bitch you are * wake up*  LOL mutual feeling

r u by any chance a jew.. coz den everything will make sense

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VXXqlWD3LI

LOL....!! a must see

seriously  u ppl need a life.. go mind ur own business... Ur statements.. are all based on wat da media says ... ur misunderstandings about islam and all.. If ur not hundred percent certain of anything dont just blabber it out.. plus the media is definately not a gud source to find out reality... Any one can make up bullshit ..

and no im not taking part in this debate. Were all a bunch of kids behind our computer screens acting it tough. The internet is made full of bs, i mean you can probably link me to Hamas aswell .. we both have the letters m and a ? that would probably be enough evidence true?
Quit yappin about insignificant information, let the real people deal with it. What we say here isn't going to change anything. VCE is the real terrorist, the real hamas. =="

And this is just the first few pages. Need I go on, or will you take a long hard look in the mirror?