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Re: The Cricket Thread
« Reply #915 on: January 15, 2012, 04:30:03 pm »
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what a fucking joke.

both mentally and physically weak. No one in this team save tendulkar and dravid, has the heart of kumble, gavaskar, shastry etc...
Dhoni, is the biggest pea-heart of them all.

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Re: The Cricket Thread
« Reply #916 on: January 15, 2012, 04:31:19 pm »
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What an absolute flogging ;D Excellent bowling by Hilfy and a great knock by Warner  :)
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« Reply #917 on: January 15, 2012, 05:41:14 pm »
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What an absolute flogging ;D

Perfect description right there.

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« Reply #918 on: January 15, 2012, 10:29:10 pm »
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« Reply #919 on: January 18, 2012, 08:20:44 am »
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Atleast when they get back to India, they'll be in for some traditional verbal spanking by their media.
Thats the only hope to improving.
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« Reply #920 on: January 18, 2012, 11:05:58 am »
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Atleast when they get back to India, they'll be in for some traditional verbal spanking by their media.
Thats the only hope to improving.

You mean they'll be burning effigies of Sehwag, Laxman and Dhoni :P


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« Reply #921 on: January 18, 2012, 11:43:31 am »
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you can add laxman as well pi ^

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Re: The Cricket Thread
« Reply #922 on: January 18, 2012, 11:49:03 pm »
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Atleast when they get back to India, they'll be in for some traditional verbal spanking by their media.
Thats the only hope to improving.

You mean they'll be burning effigies of Sehwag, Laxman and Dhoni :P


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I don't quite understand why everyone is talking it out on these 3.. 
Sehwag made 219 literally a few weeks ago,  dhoni got india to number 1 status as captain,  got us t20 world cup,  odi world cup,  laxman scored a brilliant ton against the west indies not long ago either. We lose some games,  that too with a big margin ( not denying india played badly),  and oye oye bam bam,  let's take it out on some of the players who might not have contributed!

BTW sehwag didn't play all the games in England,  maybe 1.  I think 0 though.

Australia went to south Africa and got their butts wooped.  Australia got belted in the ashes too.  Hussey,  ponting came under criticism.  Australia hasn't played well on tour recently either.  They even lost to nz at home. 
Point is,  there'll always be a rough patch,  and all the critics need to understand that. Give em a break ffs!!! 

I like dhoni.  He is criticised for his keeping,  but he's better than haddin,  hes also a good batsman.  Captaincy wise,  he's got what it takes.  His achievements as captain reflect that.

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« Reply #923 on: January 19, 2012, 12:40:43 am »
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dhoni is a silly shunt. He hasn't got the balls to captain tests. The team has carried him through all of his achievment. He only avergages 35 with the bat in tests and his glovework is techinically quite poor.

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« Reply #924 on: January 19, 2012, 08:19:02 am »
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Atleast when they get back to India, they'll be in for some traditional verbal spanking by their media.
Thats the only hope to improving.

You mean they'll be burning effigies of Sehwag, Laxman and Dhoni :P


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I don't quite understand why everyone is talking it out on these 3.. 
Sehwag made 219 literally a few weeks ago,  dhoni got india to number 1 status as captain,  got us t20 world cup,  odi world cup,  laxman scored a brilliant ton against the west indies not long ago either. We lose some games,  that too with a big margin ( not denying india played badly),  and oye oye bam bam,  let's take it out on some of the players who might not have contributed!

BTW sehwag didn't play all the games in England,  maybe 1.  I think 0 though.

Australia went to south Africa and got their butts wooped.  Australia got belted in the ashes too.  Hussey,  ponting came under criticism.  Australia hasn't played well on tour recently either.  They even lost to nz at home. 
Point is,  there'll always be a rough patch,  and all the critics need to understand that. Give em a break ffs!!! 

I like dhoni.  He is criticised for his keeping,  but he's better than haddin,  hes also a good batsman.  Captaincy wise,  he's got what it takes.  His achievements as captain reflect that.

/end rant
( wasn't directed at anyone,  just venting my spleen)

Uhh....ok?
Point is, in the end India have lost the series. They won the world cup, yea, but they also lost 4-0 in England.
But you have to remember the amount of money that is being lost as well.
I'll put it into perspective. Micheal Clarke, earns maybe 1-2 mil a year? Compared to Dhoni, who earns close to 42 mil( ads, ipl, test cricket). If Australia loose, they havent got much to loose; while Dhoni and his team have not just the hopes of their entire country, but a big portion of wealth too. Ratings that show the test criket match in India have stooped so low, that the television company are loosing millions of dollars as each day of test cricket goes on.

Yes Dhoni, Laxman and Sehwag are going to be under criticism unless they dont perform. Why? because its not just about cricket, its the money behind it as well. India's board system pretty much control the ICC (see their decision on the drs system this test series) and so will be less willing to offer their team to playing other countries.

Yes, I do agree that all cricket teams have their rough patches, but in the case with India, there is much more at stake than wickets.

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« Reply #925 on: January 19, 2012, 08:28:43 am »
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When the BCCI comes out and says that they don't care about losing because they can always win at home, that should tell you everything you need to know about the quality of the Indian cricket team

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« Reply #926 on: January 19, 2012, 09:22:47 am »
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dhoni is a silly shunt. He hasn't got the balls to captain tests. The team has carried him through all of his achievment. He only avergages 35 with the bat in tests and his glovework is techinically quite poor.
He's better than Haddin, haddin cant hold onto half of the catches!
and yes, the team has carried him through all the achievment. the captain is meant to lead the team, not be the most prolific run scorer. and the funny thing is, before, everyone commended his captaincy, after losing 6 games abroad, its totally changed. i dont think thats fair.

Uhh....ok?
Point is, in the end India have lost the series. They won the world cup, yea, but they also lost 4-0 in England.
But you have to remember the amount of money that is being lost as well.
I'll put it into perspective. Micheal Clarke, earns maybe 1-2 mil a year? Compared to Dhoni, who earns close to 42 mil( ads, ipl, test cricket). If Australia loose, they havent got much to loose; while Dhoni and his team have not just the hopes of their entire country, but a big portion of wealth too. Ratings that show the test criket match in India have stooped so low, that the television company are loosing millions of dollars as each day of test cricket goes on.

Yes Dhoni, Laxman and Sehwag are going to be under criticism unless they dont perform. Why? because its not just about cricket, its the money behind it as well. India's board system pretty much control the ICC (see their decision on the drs system this test series) and so will be less willing to offer their team to playing other countries.

Yes, I do agree that all cricket teams have their rough patches, but in the case with India, there is much more at stake than wickets.

so you're saying, this whole saga is soooo bad, because indian cricket is losing money? we should drop some players, cause indian cricket is losing money?
okay, well put this into perspective. most likely, the amount of money being lost, is probably nothing in comparison to their revenues..
so when sehwag makes a big score, itll be fine? moneys all good?
sorry, but i don't think that's rational at all. why? because that makes it sound like the whole thing is for money. test cricket was designed to be played, not watched. 21st cenutry, times have changed, but that doesn't mean you bring down a team cause their losing money for their country. if anything, their losing their status, the recognition and respect they have.

i think people are criticising the cricket being played, not the money being lost.
if sehwag, laxman and dhoni fire up and play some great games, and on the other hand, dravid, sachin and gambhir play some woeful games, the tables will turn. inevitably.

the decision on DRS was not because BCCI has full control. it was because ICC gives the two playing nations a decision , and if one team backs out, both have to. BCCI said no.  Cricket australia said yes, that means it cant be used.

When the BCCI comes out and says that they don't care about losing because they can always win at home, that should tell you everything you need to know about the quality of the Indian cricket team

BCCI does not reflect indian cricket at ALL. think of bcci has your school board. do they participate at all? no. they just fund, govern and yeah, they don't build up anything of what makes up a cricket team.
Indian cricket team,  do care that they're losing. reports and interviews suggest that, evidently. bcci mightn't, but thats okay, cause bcci have nothing to do with the real cricket side of things. '

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« Reply #927 on: January 19, 2012, 09:58:57 am »
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the decision on DRS was not because BCCI has full control. it was because ICC gives the two playing nations a decision , and if one team backs out, both have to. BCCI said no.  Cricket australia said yes, that means it cant be used.

Why was it like that? Because the BCCI is too powerful (rich) for the ICC to actually enforce the things they want to enforce.

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When the BCCI comes out and says that they don't care about losing because they can always win at home, that should tell you everything you need to know about the quality of the Indian cricket team

BCCI does not reflect indian cricket at ALL. think of bcci has your school board. do they participate at all? no. they just fund, govern and yeah, they don't build up anything of what makes up a cricket team.
Indian cricket team,  do care that they're losing. reports and interviews suggest that, evidently. bcci mightn't, but thats okay, cause bcci have nothing to do with the real cricket side of things. '

If you're saying that the board meant to govern and run Indian cricket is completely disconnected from cricket, then I think my point stands.

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« Reply #928 on: January 19, 2012, 01:15:21 pm »
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I think that ICC gives the decision to the playing nations' boards. if one disagrees, then so be it. im not sure if it was the case of, icc wanted it, aussies wanted it, bcci said no, so they dont use it at all.. i have a feeling it was 1 against 1, so to be fair, they didnt use it... :s

and im saying(, in response to you saying that the bcci said they dont care about losing overseas etc etc, reflects the Indian cricket team), that the bcci doesnt reflect the actual cricket team. the cricket team is not bcci.

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« Reply #929 on: January 19, 2012, 02:00:29 pm »
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I think that ICC gives the decision to the playing nations' boards. if one disagrees, then so be it. im not sure if it was the case of, icc wanted it, aussies wanted it, bcci said no, so they dont use it at all.. i have a feeling it was 1 against 1, so to be fair, they didnt use it... :s

You can think this all you want, but it doesn't make it true...
You realise the DRS was originally mandatory and then the ICC backflipped after the BCCI put pressure on them...

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and im saying(, in response to you saying that the bcci said they dont care about losing overseas etc etc, reflects the Indian cricket team), that the bcci doesnt reflect the actual cricket team. the cricket team is not bcci.

Of course they're not literally the team, but their comments are a pretty great representation here...