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Islamic Barbies
« on: November 21, 2010, 01:44:43 pm »
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Iran has declared jihad against a new infidel -- Barbie!

A toy company in the Muslim nation is tired of little Iranian girls buying the popular American doll and has come out with an "Islamic Barbie" rival.

The new Iranian doll is called "Fatima" and comes wrapped in a traditional Iranian head scarf and long robes.

Hossein Homay Seresht, whose company, Fam, manufactures the doll, made it clear he does not want Iranian kids corrupted by the Great Satan, as he declared that he will fight "the enemy's cultural invasion."

"By creating Barbie and marketing it, Westerners are encouraging bad veiling and not wearing the hijab. All of these factors led us to take it as our duty to present Islamic dolls to the market," he said, according to Ynetnews.

The bid to enforce Sharia law on kiddie tea parties across Iran may fail, since Iranian girls have already shown that they prefer Barbie to any scarf-covered Islamic doll.

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Re: Islamic Barbies
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2010, 01:56:22 pm »
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lol these barbies are so cute. Others came out long ago, and I think they were Saudi version.
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2010, 03:24:16 pm »
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Muslims changing children's icons? Well there's nothing new about that.
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Re: Islamic Barbies
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2010, 06:53:31 pm »
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The bid to enforce Sharia law on kiddie tea parties across Iran may fail, since Iranian girls have already shown that they prefer Barbie to any scarf-covered Islamic doll.
someone's getting the death penalty. . .
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Re: Islamic Barbies
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2010, 10:22:13 pm »
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THer aw efs gone tiem tyhere was a q mucslim supetehrero. I think that;s t ber[potty funuynh.x You should look tui ujtp

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Re: Islamic Barbies
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2010, 01:01:51 am »
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"A fatwa has been issued against pets in Iran, leading the authorities to ban all advertisements for pets, pet food and other pet products. I don’t know what other actions will be taken, but it must be a bleak time for Iranian pet vets.



Dogs are not meant to be kept in the house as pets, although it’s acceptable to keep them as guard dogs. All-black dogs seem to be strongly out of favour. One website entreats believers to “kill a dog that is pure black. Take the pure black dog to the dog pound.”

Cats, on the other hand, are cherished. The Prophet Muhammad even owned a pet cat, called Muezza. Muslims are free to live with cats and they must treat cats well, providing the cat with enough water and food,  and giving “roaming time”."

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peterwedderburn/100051706/a-fatwa-against-pets-not-a-good-time-to-be-a-vet-in-tehran/

  ^cute doggie photo
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Re: Islamic Barbies
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2010, 03:52:41 pm »
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lol islamic news never fails to amuse me


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Re: Islamic Barbies
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2010, 03:54:41 pm »
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I'd like to point out this is *Iran* being a international basketcase as usual, not all muslims are like this (i'm not one myself) but all the ones i know are pretty regular people who don't go around creating their own dolls lol

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Re: Islamic Barbies
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2010, 09:41:40 pm »
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I'd like to point out this is *Iran* being a international basketcase as usual, not all muslims are like this (i'm not one myself) but all the ones i know are pretty regular people who don't go around creating their own dolls lol
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Muslims changing children's icons? Well there's nothing new about that.

That site is just... (can't find the right word with enough negative connotations here). It really paints a bad image for how others see Muslims.

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Re: Islamic Barbies
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2010, 10:26:01 pm »
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Muslims changing children's icons? Well there's nothing new about that.

That site is just... (can't find the right word with enough negative connotations here). It really paints a bad image for how others see Muslims.

And we now return to. . . . Blame it on the website!

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Re: Islamic Barbies
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2010, 10:26:46 pm »
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I think making dolls based on their own culture is fine?
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Re: Islamic Barbies
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2010, 10:29:15 pm »
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I think making dolls based on their own culture is fine?
It's not about culture. It's about politics. Everything that is associated with pushing an Islamic Barbie is tied in with Sharia, the Niqab, extremism and Jihad.
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Re: Islamic Barbies
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2010, 10:40:05 pm »
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I think making dolls based on their own culture is fine?
It's not about culture. It's about politics. Everything that is associated with pushing an Islamic Barbie is tied in with Sharia, the Niqab, extremism and Jihad.

I think extremism is the odd one out there.

I am no Islamic, but I am pretty sure Sharia law, the Niqab, and Jihad are terms which have been defamed into being associated with negative connotations as a result of minority groups claiming to be Islamic, and further exploded by the media. I have 0 knowledge of what the Koran endorses, but hypothetically if it was the will of Allah for one to do well in their academics, someone striving to achieve good scores would be involved in a Jihad. Sharia law on the other hand isn't all that bad. Outdated? Maybe a different argument. The principles behind it are not all that different from our western ideologies (which are based on Christianity). There are perhaps a few cases do disgust the western world, but I think it is still a minority.

Niqab/Hijab, if a nun was walking around in a veil, or a buddhist monk walked around in robes, there wouldn't be complaints. They are in Iran, that is a cultural factor, hence they can base their toys on that culture as well.

I don't see how this doll is associated with extremism, Jihad, or Shariah law though. The blokes behind it may have that in mind, but a young girl in any country will look at a doll in the same way, just a figure that allows them to escape from the real world, letting their imagination control the moment.


Whilst I can't explicitly say "stop discussing islam", as I do encourage debate, I think all religions should be scrutinized equally. This whole singling out of Islam is essentially the source of much of the conflict that occurs.
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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2010, 11:01:16 pm »
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Sigh.

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I am no Islamic, but I am pretty sure Sharia law, the Niqab, and Jihad are terms which have been defamed into being associated with negative connotations  
These are terms that have been around for 1300 years. Same terms, same ideology. This "Jihad" that you mildly speak of means "holy war". Or more precisely: It means the legal, compulsory, communal effort to expand the territories ruled by Muslims at the expense of territories ruled by non-Muslims. This is a core tenet of the Q'uran and you don't need to be an Islamic scholar to know that. This means death, destruction and chaos.

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as a result of minority groups claiming to be Islamic
I loled at this point. You do realize that of almost every terror group fighting in the name of Islam, hardly any have been condemned by the mainstream Islamic community? Figures by Pew suggest that support for terror is high (up to 60% in Jordan and Pakistan) in the Arab world. It may frighten you, but what you call the minority, is actually, according to data and statistics, the majority.

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and further exploded by the media.
Okay. I have my problems with media bias too. But blaming the media on Islamaphobia (a ludicrous nonexistent phenomena) is well, ludicrous. You're basically saying that the media rather than 9/11 is responsible for the ambivalent feelings toward the Muslim world.

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I have 0 knowledge of what the Koran endorses,
thanks for clearing that up

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Sharia law on the other hand isn't all that bad.
You mean like imposing laws such as those that limit daughters' inheritance to half the portion of sons, and others according to which a woman's testimony counted for half that of a man. Yes, this can be found in other religious too - but the fundamentalist version of this is only in practice by Muslims.

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but hypothetically if it was the will of Allah for one to do well in their academics, someone striving to achieve good scores would be involved in a Jihad.
If that were indeed the will of Allah, then Inshallah there would be peace in the Middle East.

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The principles behind it are not all that different from our western ideologies.
Ah yes. Democracy, human rights, capitalism and treating women as something other than animals comes straight from the Q'uran

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Niqab/Hijab, if a nun was walking around in a veil, or a buddhist monk walked around in robes, there wouldn't be complaints.
Irrelevant argument. Nuns aren't trying to kill anyone

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They are in Iran, that is a cultural factor, hence they can base their toys on that culture as well.
No - I keep on mentioning that the motivation is purely religious and ideological. The Niqab is a cultural relic limited to the Arabian peninsula that has spread worldwide with the advent of the Wahabbi movement. The Persians don't historically wear niqabs.

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The blokes behind it may have that in mind, but a young girl in any country will look at a doll in the same way, just a figure that allows them to escape from the real world, letting their imagination control the moment.
Or there are darker forces at play. Ever wonder what makes a teen girl strap on a suicide vest and to kill herself and innocent civilians? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/2621776/Iraq-police-catch-teenage-girl-in-suicide-bomber-vest.html
Now you know.
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Re: Islamic Barbies
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2010, 11:11:18 pm »
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^ cop that