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Re: The US Government is in ur DNS censoring ur internetz
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2010, 07:40:56 pm »
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The US has certainly degraded as a nation...

On a mor epositive note, loved the analogy "This is equivalent to having your house seized for pointing out to someone you can buy weed in the college district." Doesn't exactly speak volumes for the US on the drug-front either.
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Re: The US Government is in ur DNS censoring ur internetz
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2010, 07:57:33 pm »
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It's such a fad for "i'm smarter than you - type kiddies" in the 18-30 age bracket to bash the US, either to seem 'alternative', 'political suave', or declare themselves everyone's moral compass.
Once you hit 30, you'll realise how much you have come to depend on everything 'America'.
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Re: The US Government is in ur DNS censoring ur internetz
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2010, 08:08:31 pm »
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Here's a quote from a thread on reddit about this:
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We're not outraged enough. Maybe it's because most of you don't understand what just happened. A moment of your time, please.
Every hostname, like "www.reddit.com" is really "www.reddit.com." See that dot at the end? Try typing that in, it'll work. If you leave the dot out, your browser (that is, via your system's resolver libraries) inserts the dot at the end when trying to resolve the IP address.
So, what is this dot all about? The dot is the root. Every single internet DNS query starts with contacting the root servers[1]. In this case it would ask the root servers where to find the servers responsible for "com", then the servers responsible for "com" are asked who is responsible for "reddit.com", etc. The system is distributed. Reddit runs nameservers that give out IPs for 'www', and com runs nameservers that give out delegations for reddit, and the root runs nameservers that give out delegations for com.
Here's the horrifying part.
The root servers are controlled by ICANN, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, and this is literally a US Government entity. That means every single name that is looked up on the internet, from www.reddit.com. to cr.yp.to. and yes even the domains for North Korea (.kp) must pass through a system that is controlled completely by the US.
ICANN also happens to control ".com", ".net", and a few others, but theoretically ICANN can, since they control the root zone ".", kill resolutions for any hostname in the entire world, no matter what TLD they're under. In this story, they only killed domains under .com and .net, but the truth is they really can kill anything, and it while this kind of power has worried some policymakers the world over for a long time, the US has never used this power so it was nothing to write home about.
Well, today they used it. They crossed a line. This is no joke a declaration of war on freedom. The US is willing to tamper with the system on the behalf of special interests.
1.OK, not strictly every, there's a lot of caching going on but if this process stops working the name stops resolving eventually.

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Re: The US Government is in ur DNS censoring ur internetz
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2010, 08:11:37 pm »
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I depend on America to force useless products onto me? Interesting...

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Re: The US Government is in ur DNS censoring ur internetz
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2010, 11:20:58 am »
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It's such a fad for "i'm smarter than you - type kiddies" in the 18-30 age bracket to bash the US, either to seem 'alternative', 'political suave', or declare themselves everyone's moral compass.
Once you hit 30, you'll realise how much you have come to depend on everything 'America'.
Reminds me of Douglas Murray ridiculing George Clooney's claim that he was taking "a big career risk" by directing a film attacking senator McCarthy. Sif ::) Bout as dangerous as attacking pre-Copernican cosmology.
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