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Mother of 5 to be hanged for insulting Muhammed
« on: December 07, 2010, 12:05:11 am »
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http://www.theage.com.au/world/believe-this-or-else-20101202-18h86.html
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LAST year Asia Bibi, a mother of five, was told to bring water to fellow workers in a field in rural Pakistan. They declined to drink, saying that as a Christian she had contaminated it. They pressured her to convert to Islam and, goaded, she said she did not believe Muhammad was a true prophet. For that remark she has been sentenced to death.

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Re: Mother of 5 to be hanged for insulting Muhammed
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2010, 12:06:05 am »
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again, another demonstration of how disgusting religion is. this makes me sick.
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Re: Mother of 5 to be hanged for insulting Muhammed
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2010, 12:06:57 am »
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again, another demonstration of how disgusting religion us. this makes me sick.
Disagree. Just fanatical interpretations of religion lead to barbarity. This wouldn't occur in Bible Belt USA.
The one question I have, and it remains reasonable to ask, why is discrimination so entrenched and legitimised in the Muslim world?
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Re: Mother of 5 to be hanged for insulting Muhammed
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2010, 12:09:37 am »
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again, another demonstration of how disgusting religion us. this makes me sick.
Disagree. Just fanatical interpretations of religion lead to barbarity. This wouldn't occur in Bible Belt USA

i just hate religion with a passion, as i always have, so this to me just consolidates why.
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Re: Mother of 5 to be hanged for insulting Muhammed
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2010, 12:14:18 am »
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This can hardly be regarded as a typical response... It's just extremist taliban having too much influence in Pakistan. It happened in Afghanistan, america pushed them out and now they're hanging (excuse the pun) in pakistan instead.
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Re: Mother of 5 to be hanged for insulting Muhammed
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2010, 12:15:20 am »
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again, another demonstration of how disgusting religion us. this makes me sick.
Disagree. Just fanatical interpretations of religion lead to barbarity. This wouldn't occur in Bible Belt USA

i just hate religion with a passion, as i always have, so this to me just consolidates why.

that is not religion.  it is extremism.  two different things.

i'm not massive on it, but i don't really care what other people have to do with it, as long as i don't have to partake in or hear about it.
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Re: Mother of 5 to be hanged for insulting Muhammed
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2010, 12:17:49 am »
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it happens all the time with this religion, you cannot deny that.. not to mention other religions have problems on a different scale too.
religion has a disgusting side, again cannot deny, i feel no need to be descriptive ether in my above - i simply state a fact along with my opinion.
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Re: Mother of 5 to be hanged for insulting Muhammed
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2010, 12:18:02 am »
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again, another demonstration of how disgusting religion us. this makes me sick.
Disagree. Just fanatical interpretations of religion lead to barbarity.
This is true.
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This wouldn't occur in Bible Belt USA
Wait what?
http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/18422
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2719258620070428
Gay bashing
Mosque Burnings
and plenty of other hate crimes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church
http://www.godhatesfags.com/
No barbarity in the bible belt, no siree.

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Re: Mother of 5 to be hanged for insulting Muhammed
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2010, 12:19:25 am »
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"They declined to drink, saying that as a Christian she had contaminated it. They pressured her to convert to Islam and, goaded, she said she did not believe Muhammad was a true prophet. For that remark she has been sentenced to death"
From what i know according to Islam, sentencing her to death is wrong. If she did not believe muhammad was a true prophet then its her choice. In Islam there is no such a thing as forcing a person to become a muslim. This is jst the work of a few ignorant ppl ruining the name of Islam. The first part is false aswell, jst cause a christian offered water it doesnt mean its contaminated- this is jst cuming from their stupidity and is by no means related to islam.

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Re: Mother of 5 to be hanged for insulting Muhammed
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2010, 12:20:54 am »
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This can hardly be regarded as a typical response... It's just extremist taliban having too much influence in Pakistan. It happened in Afghanistan, america pushed them out and now they're hanging (excuse the pun) in pakistan instead.
No... you actually misunderstand the nuanced geopolitics of Pakistan and its internal affairs.
Pakistan is largely at war with the Taliban and extremist movements in the Swat valley/Waziristan.
Nevertheless this mother was sentenced to death by a Pakistani state court - a legal system purportedly founded upon secular ideals - not Sharia.
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Re: Mother of 5 to be hanged for insulting Muhammed
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2010, 12:22:02 am »
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it happens all the time with this religion, you cannot deny that.. not to mention other religions have problems on a different scale too.
religion has a disgusting side, again cannot deny, i feel no need to be descriptive ether in my above - i simply state a fact along with my opinion.
All human beings are capable of cruelty. You get zealots everywhere. I doubt that mainstream religious observance facilitates extremism.
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Re: Mother of 5 to be hanged for insulting Muhammed
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2010, 12:23:48 am »
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This can hardly be regarded as a typical response... It's just extremist taliban having too much influence in Pakistan. It happened in Afghanistan, america pushed them out and now they're hanging (excuse the pun) in pakistan instead.
No... you actually misunderstand the nuanced geopolitics of Pakistan and its internal affairs.
Pakistan is largely at war with the Taliban and extremist movements in the Swat valley/Waziristan.
Nevertheless this mother was sentenced to death by a Pakistani state court - a legal system purportedly founded upon secular ideals - not Sharia.
yeah... I didn't actualy read the article. Nevertheless, this is not indicitive of wider islamic beliefs.
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Re: Mother of 5 to be hanged for insulting Muhammed
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2010, 12:23:54 am »
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again, another demonstration of how disgusting religion us. this makes me sick.
Disagree. Just fanatical interpretations of religion lead to barbarity.
This is true.
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This wouldn't occur in Bible Belt USA
Wait what?
http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/18422
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2719258620070428
Gay bashing
Mosque Burnings
and plenty of other hate crimes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church
http://www.godhatesfags.com/
No barbarity in the bible belt, no siree.
I'm talking about institutionalized discrimination. A few crackpots who eventually get arrested by American police doesn't compare to a Pakistani state court sentencing this poor woman officially through the legal system. Unless you want to tell me that Timothy Mcveigh represents all 100 million evangelicals>
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Re: Mother of 5 to be hanged for insulting Muhammed
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2010, 12:27:58 am »
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it happens all the time with this religion, you cannot deny that.. not to mention other religions have problems on a different scale too.
religion has a disgusting side, again cannot deny, i feel no need to be descriptive ether in my above - i simply state a fact along with my opinion.
All human beings are capable of cruelty. You get zealots everywhere. I doubt that mainstream religious observance facilitates extremism.

'mainstream religion' facilitates other forms of cruelty simply due to the ridiculous beliefs people have formed from it.
but thats not for this discussion.
yes i do agree everyone is capable of cruelty - just religion is in no way helping, it is making things so much worse. we cannot grow up as a society, and learn to be more tolerant of each other if religion is there to push as in the opposite direction. yay lets just execute you because we are extreme religious freaks with our ridiculous beliefs - they are religious, if there was no religion then they would not have such a reason to do so, this is completely immoral in a normal non-mentally damaged society (=mentally damaged from religions fucked up views in some places).
it is impossible to deny that religion does this.

and i apologise chavi, i do not have the ability to express myself in better words, this part of english was not my forte.
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Re: Mother of 5 to be hanged for insulting Muhammed
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2010, 12:28:28 am »
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In Islam there is no such a thing as forcing a person to become a muslim.
I thought that Islam by definition proselytizes?
How else can you explain: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion#Islam_2
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