Mother of 5 to be hanged for insulting Muhammed

[Souljette_93]

I am having to find myself repeating again and again.

Find me one post where I supported this woman's killing. Come on, go ahead, what are you waiting for?

@Mao-What do you know about our prophet? Do you know what the media says?

I know what, why don't you consider how we feel when someone attacks our prophet for a change? Instead of looking into like this from a one side, look at the other. Seriously, I can bolt down and cry, and already your comment hurt me so I am not going to reply.

...And if you are going to return back to this woman, who hasn't been killed yet, then you'd see that she did not directly attack the prophet and so I see no reason with killing her. We have already acknowledged that corruption is there, but somehow this turned into a religion attack.

[Souljette_93]

I come from a religious view, you may not

I don't have a problem with your religious view (actually I do have a huge problem with the death penalty for such a crime but I digress), I have a problem with the way you force your religious view onto her. She doesn't follow your religion so why should she be punished according to it?

You do realise that I am talking from a general sense, and not exactly this woman? In this case, read what I have said about her.

[Duck]

I know what, why don't you consider how we feel when someone attacks our prophet for a change?

I guarantee the majority of the world feels worse when an innocent (in our eyes) person is needlessy murdered than you do when a picture of mohammed is printed.

[Duck]

I come from a religious view, you may not

I don't have a problem with your religious view (actually I do have a huge problem with the death penalty for such a crime but I digress), I have a problem with the way you force your religious view onto her. She doesn't follow your religion so why should she be punished according to it?

You do realise that I am talking from a general sense, and not exactly this woman? In this case, read what I have said about her.

So you only believe that practicing Muslims should suffer the death penalty for blasphemy? Good, I still disagree but I can atleast accept that.

[Souljette_93]

How many Muslims are there in the world? Every single Muslim will feel offended and bring me one Muslim that doesn't.

Your words tell me that you have still not read my comments about this case.

[Mao]

^^here, found one for you.

But had the woman actually insulted Muhammad, would she deserve to be punished (capital/corporal)? If you believe this to be true, it is not corruption, but due to a fundamental flaw in Islam itself.

Yes, no doubt.
You're going to have to agree that I disagree. It is not a Fundamental "flaw" as you put it. It is sacred as any other law that we have. You don't know prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him's) status and position he is to us, so before you judge you should know and understand who he is to us. Although I doubt you ever will, and never will you be able to feel what we feel.

My argument is that Islam INFLUENCES this corruption more than any other religion. Not that it directly condones intolerance, but that the nature of the religion causes intolerant behaviours to become prominent.

No it's not Islam, it is just your view and attitude you approach with Islam. It maybe the people themselves who are causing this, not the faith itself.

If you're going to talk about Islam in itself, you should know it's the fastest growing religion, ironically it's more of the females who are entering it, so telling me that it influences corruption would mean that all those people who enter our faith are wanting the corruption.

Just because all those attacks that is evidently created by Muslims doesn't mean it is Islam that's making it, or even them fighting in the name of Islam. (Some of which, are obviously contrary to the faith itself).

[ninwa]

You keep going on about how you wouldn't ever think of putting a mother of five to death. Then I ask you: would you support her death if she had drawn a picture of Muhammed?

You also didn't answer my question before: given all your posturing about "Shariah only applies to those who accept it", why are you supporting the application of Shariah to a Christian?

[Mao]

I am having to find myself repeating again and again.

Find me one post where I supported this woman's killing. Come on, go ahead, what are you waiting for?

@Mao-What do you know about our prophet? Do you know what the media says?

I know what, why don't you consider how we feel when someone attacks our prophet for a change? Instead of looking into like this from a one side, look at the other. Seriously, I can bolt down and cry, and already your comment hurt me so I am not going to reply.

...And if you are going to return back to this woman, who hasn't been killed yet, then you'd see that she did not directly attack the prophet and so I see no reason with killing her. We have already acknowledged that corruption is there, but somehow this turned into a religion attack.

Part 1 is satisfied.

As for part 2, you still have not answered my question. I repeat myself once again. I hate Mohammad. Do you accept my right to free speech?

[Souljette_93]

I come from a religious view, you may not

I don't have a problem with your religious view (actually I do have a huge problem with the death penalty for such a crime but I digress), I have a problem with the way you force your religious view onto her. She doesn't follow your religion so why should she be punished according to it?

You do realise that I am talking from a general sense, and not exactly this woman? In this case, read what I have said about her.

So you only believe that practicing Muslims should suffer the death penalty for blasphemy? Good, I still disagree but I can atleast accept that.

Nope, anyone living under the Caliphate of Islam. Why? because the non-Muslims of that state has chosen to live under our control, so they should be willing to accept our laws. ( Anyway, non-Muslims are given their own separate courts that judges based on their religion)

Now you tell me, why would anyone be interested in drawing the prophet? What will it benefit you?
Is it not better to shrug it off, even if you don't believe in it, then to go on creating problems?

[Duck]

How many Muslims are there in the world? Every single Muslim will feel offended and bring me one Muslim that doesn't.

Your words tell me that you have still not read my comments about this case.

So you think that when you see the prophet in picture you are more offended than I am when I see a person murdered by you? (yes, I believe that your support of the death penalty means you are murdering these people.)

[faded_dreams]

TBH-it's not a harsh punishment

DEATH? HANGING A MOTHER OF 5 IS NOT A HARSH PUNISHMENT? A person just had their life taken from them, and five children are now without a mother and you say that's not harsh?

Yes - it is a very harsh punishment and the mother should most definitely be pardoned. However, the western media is not portraying the entire nature of the issue. The Age article says - she said she did not believe Muhammad was a true prophet. For that remark she has been sentenced to death.

This is completely and utterly false - she swore, cursed and explicitly said some derogatory remarks about the prophet. This is what the Pakistani media is reporting, however as usual the western media is only portraying certain aspects of the story to make it bias. I am in no way endorsing or supporting the death sentence (yes it is very harsh and the religion of Islam even doesn't support it). Additionally, yes Pakistan has it's issues but there would've been a hell of a lot more to the story than just denying the prophet for her to be sentenced to death. Even a country like Pakistan (which I have visited on numerous occasions because my Aunty married a Pakistani) doesn't just go around handing death sentences for denying or criticising a religious figure. I am not saying the sentence is fair, just aiming to shed light on how deeply biased the
Western Media is.

Additionally, the US has sentenced a Pakistani Muslim Mother of 3 to 86 years in prison because her husband was in some way related to terrorists acts and was tortured for 5 years in Afghanistan (without trial). Doubt any of you were even aware of this. Why? Because the western media is bias. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aafia_Siddiqui. Do you think this is fair?

[Mao]

Additionally, the US has sentenced a Pakistani Muslim Mother of 3 to 86 years in prison because her husband was in some way related to terrorists acts and was tortured for 5 years in Afghanistan (without trial). Doubt any of you were even aware of this. Why? Because the western media is bias. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aafia_Siddiqui. Do you think this is fair?

Yes, for what she tried to do, she got what she deserved.

[Souljette_93]

@MAO-is fady even Muslim? The way he speaks shows that he isn't, an Arab yes, but he will have to confirm it.

You keep going on about how you wouldn't ever think of putting a mother of five to death. Then I ask you: would you support her death if she had drawn a picture of Muhammed?

I already answered this Q's.

You also didn't answer my question before: given all your posturing about "Shariah only applies to those who accept it", why are you supporting the application of Shariah to a Christian?

lol, you are the very person I was speaking to about it. Go read what context that was in an get back to me

[Souljette_93]

@ faded_dreams:

Tell me where the Islamic law doesn't approve of the death penalty if someone attacked the prophet. Very interesting to hear.

[Duck]

Additionally, the US has sentenced a Pakistani Muslim Mother of 3 to 86 years in prison because her husband was in some way related to terrorists acts and was tortured for 5 years in Afghanistan (without trial). Doubt any of you were even aware of this. Why? Because the western media is bias. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aafia_Siddiqui. Do you think this is fair?

No, she was sentanced to jail because she attempted to murder multiple unarmed FBI agents, then informed them that she wanted to kill all Americans.