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Re: What English Language actually is
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2010, 06:42:28 pm »
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Re: What English Language actually is
« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2010, 11:59:08 am »
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90% sure she isn't coming back.


good ridance, she refused to give me an A+ all year...


probably too late for me to change into english language 3+4, might just stick with english (normal) now

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Re: What English Language actually is
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2010, 12:16:01 pm »
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Unless you're a top english student, don't consider doing englang as well for its first year at MHS.


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Re: What English Language actually is
« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2010, 03:27:43 pm »
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Unless you're a top english student, don't consider doing englang as well for its first year at MHS.



counts me out (after a semester with basu this year)

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Re: What English Language actually is
« Reply #34 on: October 31, 2010, 03:32:33 pm »
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Unless you're a top english student, don't consider doing englang as well for its first year at MHS.



counts me out (after a semester with basu this year)
Pfscht, toughen up :P ...I had her for 3 terms [ a semester and a half ] :P

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Re: What English Language actually is
« Reply #35 on: October 31, 2010, 03:39:47 pm »
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oh yeah, it was three terms. my bad


at least you didnt have her in VCE, not that that is an excuse. KL, dux of last year had basu in yrs 9 and 11 and still got a raw 50 in english (and 4 other raw 50s...)

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Re: What English Language actually is
« Reply #36 on: October 31, 2010, 05:08:24 pm »
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You are in yr 10. Yr 10 english is even easier than yr 11.

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Re: What English Language actually is
« Reply #37 on: October 31, 2010, 05:34:06 pm »
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You are in yr 10. Yr 10 english is even easier than yr 11.

i am in yr 11 actually

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Re: What English Language actually is
« Reply #38 on: October 31, 2010, 05:38:45 pm »
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That was to iNerd

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Re: What English Language actually is
« Reply #39 on: October 31, 2010, 05:54:14 pm »
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That was to iNerd
Ah really? Um I agree...Y10 English is easier. Topic closed?

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Re: What English Language actually is
« Reply #40 on: November 01, 2010, 10:38:14 am »
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Summary of each unit:
Unit 1 – Language and communication – If you are going to do 1 unit out of units 1/2, do this one.
This starts with a metalanguage (words used to describe language) 'toolbox' you're going to be using for the next 3 units. Functions, context, mode (spoken vs written) and audience, and how each of these affect your text. How language is put together in terms of phonology, morphology and syntax (including the ridiculed 'YAY I know what a noun is', but a lot of other stuff as well), and how these combine together to give you your text, and the semantics (meaning) behind it. Also the consequences of the meaning behind it (connotations of words, persuading people etc)

Following this is a smaller area of study about how we acquire language as kids. Not very useful but it is a very good backdrop to practise the things you have learnt from the previous area of study, which is assumedly why it is there.

Unit 2 – Language change
None of the stuff from this unit is directly useful to you in units 3/4. A few general ideas are, but nothing specific.
Area of study 1 is how English has changed over time (Old English/Anglo-Saxon -> Middle English -> Modern English), how words have changed in meaning over time, how a standard came about and the rules of English.
Area of study 2 is English as a global language – how it came to be that way, pidgin languages and creoles, looking at fun examples of engrish =P, and the implications of it (your language is linked to your identity, would you be happy to give it up for English, or remain bilingual)

Unit 3 – Language in society
The two areas of study for this are language variation according to users, and variation according to use. This is mainly what the essay is based on (although, technically all sections of the exam test units 3 and 4)
Users – looks at Australian English (how we talk in a monotone without opening our mouths, don't bloody enunciate things clearly, bloody shorten words all the time: “today I decided to take a sickie, so I slept in til this arvo and had brekky in front of the telly at 3”, say 'yeah-no', among other things), other language communities within Australia (ethnic groups and Aboriginal English), the notion of a Standard Australian English, influences on our language such as Americanisms, people lol-ing too much.
Uses – looks at how we change our language for a particular purpose (beyond what you do in unit 1). Includes things such as slang and jargon -> inclusive/exclusive, the principle of appropriateness, political correctness and gendered language (think chairperson), language used in the public domain eg euphemisms and doublespeak.

Unit 4 – Texts in their Australian Contexts
This unit is pretty much a lead up to the exam. It's not terribly interesting, especially if you actually paid attention in the past and recall a lot of it. Split into a spoken area of study and a written area of study. By now you will know all the basics, but they will chuck a lot of new metalanguage at you, and you need to learn every single one, even though only about 10% will be useful to you on the big day.
New things off the top of my head include maxims or 'rules' for a conversation (don't give a life story when someone asks you how you are), a lot of stylistic features for written texts (there's more to life than alliteration and onomatopoeia), coherence and cohesion.

back to the topic, this sound much more interesting than Richard III


although Unit 4 seems a bit of a bore

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Re: What English Language actually is
« Reply #41 on: November 01, 2010, 10:53:25 am »
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Posted this somewhere else.  Thought it might be relevant...

I am going to clear up 3/4 English Language.  I'll start by saying that it is not overly scientific, however, it is very structured and therefore more suited to maths and science students.  I think of it as amateur linguistics.

Everything you study in English Language is based on the 5 subsystems of language.

-Phonology, the study of sound
-Morphology and Lexicology, the study of words and word structure
-Syntax, the study of sentence structure
-Semantics, the study of meaning
-Discourse, the overall study of language in context

This is mostly grammar based, so if you don't like grammar and metalanguage, then don't study EL.  I wouldn't say you need an immaculate understanding of English grammar to do this subject, but you still need to be good at it.  The exam generally has a grammar based question or two in it, which really could be on anything from sentence structure to phrase or clause analysis.

Anyway this is the actual course.

Unit 3 AoS1: Language according to user
-Australian English, and comparing it to international English varieties on all of the subsystem levels
-The concept of Standard English
-The varieties of Australian English: Broad, General and Cultivated
-Social attitudes towards these varieties
-Aboriginal English - YES IT IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF ENGLISH!
-Ethnocultural varieties of Australian English, which arise when non-English language speakers transfer features of their first language into English
-The ability of language the reaffirm and create identity: individually, socially, culturally and nationally

A few examples so you get the basic idea.
-Semantically, in Australian English, the word 'bum' refers to a part of the human anatomy, whereas in the US, 'bum' means a homeless person
-Syntactically, Australian English speakers have a tendency to use the pronoun 'me' as opposed to the possessive pronoun 'my' to allude to their belongings (e.g. 'Come to me house')


AoS 2: Language variation according to use
-The holy grail of English, 'The Principle of Appropriateness'   (basically just means be appropriate for the situation)
-Social distance, positive and negative politeness and power relations     (are you communicating with someone you know well or not?  are they your superior?)
-Jargon and slang (jargon is the use of language specialized to a specific topic/profession and allows for fast, expedient communication, wheareas slang is generally more informal, used by everyone, and can play an important role in forming group identity)
-Social taboos, euphemism and dysphemism  (e.g euphemism = person with a mental diability   dysphemism = spastic)
-Doublespeak and public language (government and corporations using language to mislead e.g. voluntary resignation program = people getting fired)
-Political Correctness (gender, race, sexuality etc.) (don't offend anyone based on any aspect of their identity)

Unit 3: Other general areas which you should know:
-Origins of English, especially Australian English
-Language and power
-Language use in technology
-Teen speak
-Varying language to suit the context

On the end of year exam, you have to be able to write a detailed essay on any of the Unit 3 content.  Unit 4 is question and analytical based.  It is possible that you could however incorporate some of the Unit 4 content into an essay.

Unit 4 AoS 1: Spoken Language
-Conventions of the mode (e.g. dynamic, more slang, transient, shorter sentences, quicker to change, errors)
-Reading conversation transcripts and understanding the key
-Usually it will be either a conversation, interview or sports commentary
-Discourse particles (words such as 'well' and 'yeah no' which have no meaning but are used unconsciously as conversation strategies
-Topic management/Turn taking
-Prosodic features (e.g. stress=emphasis, rising intonation= signals a question, increasing tempo/volume=builds tension and excitement)
-Paralinguistic features (e.g. laughter, intake of breath etc.)
-Backchaining and minimal utterances and overlapping speech
-Grice's Cooperative Principle of Conversation (don't lie, don't be obscure, be relevant and give adequate information)

Unit 4 AoS 2: Written Language
-Conventions of the mode (e.g. static, less slang, permanent, longer sentences, longer to change, no errors)
-Analysis of a wide variety of written texts including articles, advertisements and literature
-The concepts of Cohesion (what links elements of the text together?) and Coherence (what gives the text meaning and makes it understandable?)
-All pretty much grammar and metalanguage based, which you just have to know.  Bit hard to explain here but a basic example is a conjunction such as 'but' creates cohesion by linking two coordinating sentences together.
-After you learn all of the grammar and metalanguage, it is actually quite easy.  It doesn't matter what text you get, questions will rarely be different
-Stylistic features: are pretty much the style the writer uses (i.e. a opinion piece may include lots of puns or similes)

And overall for Unit 4, you just have to be able to identify the function of the Spoken/Written text.  i.e. conversation is often for social 'phatic' purposes.  Articles and opinion pieces have the goal of 'persuading' and/or entertaining.

Anyhow, if you are like me and you hate English, especially essays, then you will hate this English the least as it has only 1 essay on the exam.

Also, if you put in the time, it is very interesting and rewarding to know how the everyday language which you use works.
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Re: What English Language actually is
« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2010, 05:37:52 pm »
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English Language is really interesting - I guess you just have to be well informed in general to perform well.
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Re: What English Language actually is
« Reply #43 on: November 21, 2010, 06:53:25 pm »
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Nice post, stonecold. ^^

This is possibly the most helpful EL thread ever.  :)
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Re: What English Language actually is
« Reply #44 on: November 21, 2010, 07:19:23 pm »
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English Language is really interesting - I guess you just have to be well informed in general to perform well.

I actually found it really interesting too in retrospect, coming from someone who never reads/watches the news, wasn't too informed and still managed quite well.
I liked the course, the essay writing was the only part i didn't like, but all-in-all it was good :)
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