UoM General Chat

[Mieow]

Does anyone here know how the Chinese and Japanese subjects are? Like are the subjects well coordinated, do you learn a lot from the classes etc.

[Mieow]

There are reviews for both in the review thread.

Yeah I know but since I finished VCE Japanese I will be starting from Japanese 3 but there wasn't a review made yet

[Stick]

Levels 1-4 of a language are generally run in a very similar way.

[Splash-Tackle-Flail]

Are there any restrictions to what level you have to do in uni for lotes?

[brightsky]

Are there any restrictions to what level you have to do in uni for lotes?

As far as I'm aware, they will get you to sit a proficiency test of some sort before you enrol in the subject, and they will decide for you which stream you should enrol in based on the results of that test.

[Splash-Tackle-Flail]

Would anyone not try in that though, say if they wanted an easier H1?

[brightsky]

Would anyone not try in that though, say if they wanted an easier H1?

I'd be surprised if it hasn't happened before, but considering you need to fork out an average of $1000 per subject at Melbourne Uni, I'd assume most students will want to actually get something out of the subjects they choose.

[Splash-Tackle-Flail]

Ah I see, thank then Brightsky!

Edit: Thanks*

[rery]

I'd be surprised if it hasn't happened before, but considering you need to fork out an average of $1000 per subject at Melbourne Uni, I'd assume most students will want to actually get something out of the subjects they choose.

A quick browse through threads filled with students asking about the easiest breadth subjects suggests otherwise.

[Limista]

A quick browse through threads filled with students asking about the easiest breadth subjects suggests otherwise.

It all depends on your outlook though.

First, there's nothing like an 'easy' breadth. What is 'easy' depends on someone's capabilities.

And for these people doing the 'easiest' breadth subjects, they're opting to go about their study plan this way in order to secure the highest possible GPA with the least amount of work. There is nothing wrong with this idea, it's quite feasible, strategic and smart.

Then there are others who choose a breadth based on how interested they are in its content, or maybe they feel like a challenge.

Then there are others who want to get the best for their buck, so they choose a subject that will enable them to procure the most knowledge and have applications in the real world.

It's just a matter of perspective.

[notveryasian]

My experience with breadths(1st year ones) is that you most likely will do better at a subject which you find interesting, rather than one that you dislike and is considered easy. However this differs from person to person.

[rery]

It all depends on your outlook though.

First, there's nothing like an 'easy' breadth. What is 'easy' depends on someone's capabilities.

Very true, but moot when they actively seek an 'easy H1' subject.

And for these people doing the 'easiest' breadth subjects, they're opting to go about their study plan this way in order to secure the highest possible GPA with the least amount of work. There is nothing wrong with this idea, it's quite feasible, strategic and smart.

It is to some degree feasible, strategic and smart but to suggest there is nothing wrong with it is naive, given that this sort of thing is looked down upon in interviews and the like. It's also somewhat akin to choosing a VCE subject for its scaling, which is something this forum typically discourages.

My main point was in response to brightsky's view that most people want to get something out of their ~$1000 per subject, which doesn't seem to hold even in a high achieving forum like this.

[Limista]

Very true, but moot when they actively seek an 'easy H1' subject.
It is to some degree feasible, strategic and smart but to suggest there is nothing wrong with it is naive, given that this sort of thing is looked down upon in interviews and the like. It's also somewhat akin to choosing a VCE subject for its scaling, which is something this forum typically discourages.

Hi rery, just a few things you've said have provoked my argumentative side: 

1. What exactly is looked down upon, pertaining to the selection of 'easy' breadths, in interviews?

2. VCE subjects that scale up include specialist and lote subjects. Biology/ chemistry scale up slightly. The subjects that scale up, are found to be difficult, and therefore are not actively pursued by many. The scaling then acts as an incentive to take these subjects in VCE, as the Victorian government for education has unabashedly admitted.

Based on this, then, I'd say that that breadth scoring for 'H1s' runs inversely proportional to VCE scaling.

[Stick]

Would anyone not try in that though, say if they wanted an easier H1?

The staff are generally onto it and manage to weed out a couple of these students from the rest of the pack.

[Russ]

1. What exactly is looked down upon, pertaining to the selection of 'easy' breadths, in interviews?

If your prospective employer asks you 'Why did you choose to study subjects X and Y, when a large amount of the other applicants have studied electives more directly related to this field, rather than about choir and drumming techniques?', would you (the hypothetical you) be happy to answer 'The subject was low effort and easy and I wanted to pad my average rather than challenge myself'.

(this is obviously a contrived situation, but my point is that there is a very obvious reason why people disapprove)