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Re: Simple question...which I can't seem to get!
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2011, 06:21:59 pm »
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Wouldn't dom f(g(x)) = dom g(x)?
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Re: Simple question...which I can't seem to get!
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2011, 06:22:56 pm »
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Wouldn't dom f(g(x)) = dom g(x)?

Nope, the answer is different!
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Re: Simple question...which I can't seem to get!
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2011, 06:31:26 pm »
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its not R \ {-5/2} ?
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Re: Simple question...which I can't seem to get!
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2011, 06:34:16 pm »
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its not R \ {-5/2} ?

That's what I thought it was, but the answer says it's (-∞,0)\{-5/2}

I don't get why they only have R- as opposed to R, since you need g(x) to be an element of R\{0}... :\
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Re: Simple question...which I can't seem to get!
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2011, 06:41:34 pm »
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seems like an error in solutiions

just realised that g(x) was restricted
so it should be the domain of g? as mentioned by the lines guy
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Re: Simple question...which I can't seem to get!
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2011, 06:43:43 pm »
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seems like an error in solutiions

Can anyone confirm this? I've been killing myself over this D:

And nacho, just curious, how did you work out your answer to get that? Just curious as to your approach
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Re: Simple question...which I can't seem to get!
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2011, 06:50:28 pm »
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Using the calc by defining the functions with the appropriate domain gives the graph with domain (- infinty, -5/2)
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Re: Simple question...which I can't seem to get!
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2011, 06:57:09 pm »
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ran g(x): (-infty, 0) which is a subset of dom f(x)
so dom fog should be dom g(x)...which is (-infty, -5/2)

the answer that they give goes over the dom of g(x)...so i don't see how it would work
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Re: Simple question...which I can't seem to get!
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2011, 06:59:27 pm »
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Using the calc by defining the functions with the appropriate domain gives the graph with domain (- infinty, -5/2)

Yeah I tried that too...

This is really weird.

Applying the 'formula', dom fog should be dom g(x) which is (-∞,-5/2)

But my logic from working systematically is that it should R\{-5/2}, after checking my answer above and seeing that it was wrong

And the solutions say that it is (-∞,0)\{-5/2}

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Re: Simple question...which I can't seem to get!
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2011, 07:01:05 pm »
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Using the calc by defining the functions with the appropriate domain gives the graph with domain (- infinty, -5/2)

Yeah I tried that too...

This is really weird.

Applying the 'formula', dom fog should be dom g(x) which is (-∞,-5/2)

But my logic from working systematically is that it should R\{-5/2}, after checking my answer above and seeing that it was wrong

And the solutions say that it is (-∞,0)\{-5/2}

..... :(
its not R\{-5/2} because the domain of g is already restricted
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Re: Simple question...which I can't seem to get!
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2011, 07:05:48 pm »
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My reasoning is that:

x E (-∞,-5/2) which means g(x) E (-∞,0)

We need g(x) E R\{0},

Hence change it so that x E R\{-5/2} to fit all criteria.

If the final answer is indeed (-∞,-5/2), then what's wrong with my above reasoning?

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Re: Simple question...which I can't seem to get!
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2011, 07:12:45 pm »
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I've been thinking for ages that it's .

The range of g, is already a subset of the domain of f, and so you don't need to change it.

@Andiio: The range of the inner function only has to be a subset of the domain of the outer function, not equal to.
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Re: Simple question...which I can't seem to get!
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2011, 07:13:14 pm »
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My reasoning is that:

x E (-∞,-5/2) which means g(x) E (-∞,0)

We need g(x) E R\{0},

Hence change it so that x E R\{-5/2} to fit all criteria.

If the final answer is indeed (-∞,-5/2), then what's wrong with my above reasoning?

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we don't need g(x) E R\{0}, rather g(x) must be a subset of dom f(x), and it already is.
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Re: Simple question...which I can't seem to get!
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2011, 07:18:03 pm »
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I guess I just got paranoid after initially getting (-∞,-5/2) and seeing it was 'wrong' in the solutions, so then did some unnecessary working :|



So in summary if fog is defined, then dom of fog = dom of g(x), for ALL CASES?


EDIT: whoops yeah that's what I meant. Thanks!
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Re: Simple question...which I can't seem to get!
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2011, 07:39:33 pm »
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not always. only when ran of g(x) is a subset of dom f(x). if you need to restrict the dom for fog to be defined, then the max dom would be something different, most likely a combination of the dom of g(x) and max dom of fog.
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