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Re: Complex Numbers
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2009, 05:43:57 pm »
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i did that but somehow something messed up ...
can someone show me their workings plz
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Re: Complex Numbers
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2009, 05:45:53 pm »
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Sub in .







equating real with real and imaginary with imaginary.









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Re: Complex Numbers
« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2009, 06:00:50 pm »
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argh shit .......... stupid mistake

thanks alot truetears
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Re: Complex Numbers
« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2009, 09:01:59 pm »
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Hey how do i split into two quadratics ?
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Re: Complex Numbers
« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2009, 09:37:33 pm »
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make a substitution u=z^2
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Re: Complex Numbers
« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2009, 09:38:44 pm »
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make a substitution u=z^2

but there is a -2z what do you do then?
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Re: Complex Numbers
« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2009, 09:40:42 pm »
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make a substitution u=z^2

but there is a -2z what do you do then?

sorry didnt read the quesition prlly
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Re: Complex Numbers
« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2009, 10:00:33 am »
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Hey how do i split into two quadratics ?
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Grouping doesn't get you far in this case I think so try solving over R first. That doesn't work for me. I then try and look for clear complex roots, after a bit of experimenting and mulling over this I got z = 1 + i as a root. CRT, z = 1 - i. Factors: (z - 1 - i)(z - 1 + i). One quadratic: (z^2 - 2z + 2). Then use short division to find the other quadratic.
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Re: Complex Numbers
« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2009, 11:24:26 am »
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Hey how do i split into two quadratics ?
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Grouping doesn't get you far in this case I think so try solving over R first. That doesn't work for me. I then try and look for clear complex roots, after a bit of experimenting and mulling over this I got z = 1 + i as a root. CRT, z = 1 - i. Factors: (z - 1 - i)(z - 1 + i). One quadratic: (z^2 - 2z + 2). Then use short division to find the other quadratic.
yeah but wouldn't it take ages to guess z = 1 + i as a factor?
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Re: Complex Numbers
« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2009, 12:06:02 pm »
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Hey how do i split into two quadratics ?
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Grouping doesn't get you far in this case I think so try solving over R first. That doesn't work for me. I then try and look for clear complex roots, after a bit of experimenting and mulling over this I got z = 1 + i as a root. CRT, z = 1 - i. Factors: (z - 1 - i)(z - 1 + i). One quadratic: (z^2 - 2z + 2). Then use short division to find the other quadratic.
yeah but wouldn't it take ages to guess z = 1 + i as a factor?

yeah it would lol but I think a bit of guesswork (not a very mathematical solution I guess) and staring at the equation may be able to help a bit more. I generally try the solutions 1 + i, 1 + rt(3)i or rt(3) + i in cases where I have no clue what to do :P

so someone else should probably help d0miniciz with the actual solution.
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Re: Complex Numbers
« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2009, 12:18:15 pm »
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Or maybe you could make multiple simultaneous equations. Eg:

(z^2+az+c)(z^2+bz+d)

Where dc = 6
Hence
d=6/c

az^3 + bz^3 = 0
a+b=0

Hence
b=-a

abz^2 +dz^2 + cz^2 = 1
ab + d + c = 1

-a^2 + c/6 + c = 1    [1]

cbz + daz = -2z
cb + da = -2
-ac + ac/6 = -2     [2]

I think I made a mistake somewhere......but anyway, maybe that's a way.
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Re: Complex Numbers
« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2009, 05:07:44 pm »
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lols its alright guys dont worry about it
thanks heaps for ur efforts in the meantime
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Re: Complex Numbers
« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2009, 08:30:56 pm »
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Hi i need help solving this over C:
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Re: Complex Numbers
« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2009, 08:38:13 pm »
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in the back it says Cis Pi/2 , cis (-5pi/6) and cis (-pi/6) on the argand diagram i am confused.
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Re: Complex Numbers
« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2009, 08:38:24 pm »
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change to polar form yields:

now let



equate yields:

and , where

now and

let



( because must be within )

The rest you can do, just sub them back in and you can change them back to cartesian form.

remember we always take the number 1 less than the power of z for k. So for example if , we would take to . If we would take to

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