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Something stupid that has me confused.
« on: October 27, 2011, 10:23:42 pm »
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Alright, so you have this equation

This can be written as:


Then:


Now if you sub y=1 and x=1 into the LHS
You get a different answer to that when you sub x=1 and y=1 into the RHS.


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Re: Something stupid that has me confused.
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2011, 10:26:40 pm »
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What do you mean doesn't exist?

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Re: Something stupid that has me confused.
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2011, 10:32:15 pm »
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What do you mean it doesn't exist? It is a Hyperbola.

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Re: Something stupid that has me confused.
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2011, 07:35:38 am »
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I mean if you sub something like x=7 and y=3 into the LHS of

It does not equal to the RHS when you sub x=7 and y=3 into it.
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Re: Something stupid that has me confused.
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2011, 10:04:41 am »
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It's cause you divided both sides by 12 whilst completing the square

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Re: Something stupid that has me confused.
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2011, 03:02:53 pm »
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still dont understand.
i divided both sides by 12, but i moved the 1 across, so the equation still equals 0
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Re: Something stupid that has me confused.
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2011, 03:53:14 pm »
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Doesn't work like that.

Say you have two multivariable, and . only when this is true for all z.

In your case, the two relationships you built your equation from are and . Therefore, these two equations are not equal. In fact, your equation is only true when and .

In your case, when you sub in x and y, you must process this in 3 steps:

Does F(x,y)=0 ?
Does G(x,y)=0 ?
Does F(x,y) = G(x,y) ?

So when you sub in x and y that doesn't give F(x,y)=0, the very premise of your equation fails, because neither left nor right hand side equal to 0.

(e.g. When you sub in (-1.2), you will find LHS=RHS. When you sub in (-1,3), this will not be true)
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Re: Something stupid that has me confused.
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2011, 04:04:27 pm »
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Ah i get it, cheers

Come to think of it, my logic was pretty stupid because i was basically arguing that if

and
then  :|


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Re: Something stupid that has me confused.
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2011, 04:11:22 pm »
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Ah i get it, cheers

Come to think of it, my logic was pretty stupid because i was basically arguing that if

and
then  :|




Yep, that's your mistake :)