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symbolism in OTW?
« on: November 02, 2011, 04:44:43 pm »
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If the question were to ask about symbolism, would you be able to use the joey jacket, the hawks on the roof tops, taking out the pigeons?

What else is there? could you use the canary as those who sing and break the D'D rule? what other ideas are there
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Re: symbolism in OTW?
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2011, 04:57:36 pm »
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If the question were to ask about symbolism, would you be able to use the joey jacket, the hawks on the roof tops, taking out the pigeons?

What else is there? could you use the canary as those who sing and break the D'D rule? what other ideas are there

The windbreaker that is passed from Joey to Kayo to Terry is a talisman, connecting its wearer to the struggle for justice (becomes symbolic of those wishing to defy social conventions and risk personal safety and security in order to act within moral code)

Hawks = Heavyweights of the mob
Pigeons = Longshoremen
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Re: symbolism in OTW?
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2011, 05:27:51 pm »
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Talk about the actual construction of the film, for instance the fog which emphasises the moral ambiguity of the waterfront, the way in which certain shots are framed (shots of Father Barry being bathed in light), etc
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Re: symbolism in OTW?
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2011, 07:07:42 pm »
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Or the placing of New York City through the fog and on the other side of the vast river, as a distant dream of a settled life far from the waterfront unattainable for the majority of the longshoremen.
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Re: symbolism in OTW?
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2011, 07:19:42 pm »
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Thanks a lot guys for the replies.

Does the hook mean anything? seeing as charlie was killed on it, and father Barry mentioned crucifixions, could one assume that the hook is related to jesus?

And when dugan is raised up, could that indicate he's on his way to heaven?

And also guys, what do you think the questions will be about? if it's about Edie and how she's so persistent on breaking the D'D code and finding who killed joey, what ideas can you generate for 3-4 paragraphs?

And would you need to mention the mise en scene regardless of the question? would it add weight to your argument
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Re: symbolism in OTW?
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2011, 07:36:38 pm »
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With the Dugan bit, think more about how Father Barry and Pop Doyle start in the 'pit' whilst the heavy weights of the mob look down on them
and after the inspirational speech Father Barry gives, and Pop Doyle bravely states something along the lines of "next person to throw something deals with me"
So therefore, they begin to rise up against the mob as both characters become more recognised amongst their peers

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Re: symbolism in OTW?
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2011, 08:05:42 pm »
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For symbolism or film technique prompts would you talk about specific scenes or just the symbols and techniques in general ?

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Re: symbolism in OTW?
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2011, 08:23:58 pm »
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With the Dugan bit, think more about how Father Barry and Pop Doyle start in the 'pit' whilst the heavy weights of the mob look down on them
and after the inspirational speech Father Barry gives, and Pop Doyle bravely states something along the lines of "next person to throw something deals with me"
So therefore, they begin to rise up against the mob as both characters become more recognised amongst their peers

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That sounds fantastic, if symbolism is the question i will use that, thanks
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