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When are we legally allowed to discuss end-of-year exams?
« on: November 06, 2011, 01:17:41 am »
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Hello all,

I wasn't sure if this belonged in the "End-of-year exam discussion" sub-forum, so if that's where it belongs, feel free to move it.

I've noticed in that subforum that people are discussing the questions in the exams, and proposed answers. I do not oppose this practice, but just wanted to be sure that this does not provide any opportunity for any student to gain unfair prior knowledge of an exam before
sitting it.

Does this imply that all people who sit an exam start it at roughly the same time as others, thus removing this particular form of cheating?

Thank you for your time.

P.S. Yes, I do normally speak like this.

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Re: When are we legally allowed to discuss end-of-year exams?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2011, 01:22:13 am »
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People generally do not sit exams at different times, hence there is no issue.
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Re: When are we legally allowed to discuss end-of-year exams?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2011, 01:31:37 am »
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I agree that people generally don't sit exams at different times, but are there cases where people do sit exams at significantly different times at all?

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Re: When are we legally allowed to discuss end-of-year exams?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2011, 01:57:57 am »
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I don't think there are actually, if you are late, they keep you isolated from any access to get the details communicated to you, and if you miss it altogether you generally don't even sit the exam. I haven't heard of any cases myself of people doing it at significantly different types.

It's definitely not 'illegal', because the VCAA Chief himself dispensed the details of the english exam a few hours after it was finished.
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Re: When are we legally allowed to discuss end-of-year exams?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2011, 02:24:04 am »
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If there was an issue with it, VCAA would have already taken measures to stop it somehow. When the stakes are this high, even a hidden clause somewhere saying that we're not allowed to discuss them until a certain time period has elapsed obviously doesn't cut it. Even for my practical medical exams which are sat at different times, we're locked in before or after our exams for several hours to prevent us communicating with anyone from the other session. As for cases of people sitting exams at different times, I vaguely recall reading one (quite possibly on this forum) where someone was forced to somehow cut off all communications for a certain period. Can't remember the details but I think it's been done before (unless it was a hypothetical that someone was talking about).
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Re: When are we legally allowed to discuss end-of-year exams?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2011, 05:17:34 pm »
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Thank you for your helpful comments, they have been most reassuring. You may delete this thread if you see fit.

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Re: When are we legally allowed to discuss end-of-year exams?
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2011, 05:24:22 pm »
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Hello all,

I wasn't sure if this belonged in the "End-of-year exam discussion" sub-forum, so if that's where it belongs, feel free to move it.

I've noticed in that subforum that people are discussing the questions in the exams, and proposed answers. I do not oppose this practice, but just wanted to be sure that this does not provide any opportunity for any student to gain unfair prior knowledge of an exam before
sitting it.

Does this imply that all people who sit an exam start it at roughly the same time as others, thus removing this particular form of cheating?

Thank you for your time.

P.S. Yes, I do normally speak like this.

What do you mean by this disclaimer... in English?

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Re: When are we legally allowed to discuss end-of-year exams?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2011, 05:31:52 pm »
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As for cases of people sitting exams at different times, I vaguely recall reading one (quite possibly on this forum) where someone was forced to somehow cut off all communications for a certain period. Can't remember the details but I think it's been done before (unless it was a hypothetical that someone was talking about).

I've heard that if you have an exam clash and thus need to sit the exam at another time, you are given a break in an isolated room between the exams.

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Re: When are we legally allowed to discuss end-of-year exams?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2011, 08:35:34 pm »
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I think Physics solutions were released by VCAA ridiculously early mid year

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Re: When are we legally allowed to discuss end-of-year exams?
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2011, 08:37:14 pm »
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I know this is kind of ridiculous, and no-ones heard of it, but I'm actually doing the VCE overseas, my family moved to Dubai a couple of years ago, and lucky for me, it's the only place with a VCE school outside Australia. (Apparently there's one in China too, but it only has a couple of subjects running.) So we do sit exams at a different time due to the time difference, but the VCAA ensures that we start our exams just when everyone in Melbourne finishes theirs, so there's no scope for cheating (we basically have to sit exams at seven in the morning :/) And between exams we have to stay in a supervised room where we're isolated from any sort of technology. So yeah, I'm pretty sure the VCAA covers all their bases!
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Re: When are we legally allowed to discuss end-of-year exams?
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2011, 08:59:40 pm »
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Hello all,

I wasn't sure if this belonged in the "End-of-year exam discussion" sub-forum, so if that's where it belongs, feel free to move it.

I've noticed in that subforum that people are discussing the questions in the exams, and proposed answers. I do not oppose this practice, but just wanted to be sure that this does not provide any opportunity for any student to gain unfair prior knowledge of an exam before
sitting it.

Does this imply that all people who sit an exam start it at roughly the same time as others, thus removing this particular form of cheating?

Thank you for your time.

P.S. Yes, I do normally speak like this.

What do you mean by this disclaimer... in English?

I was slightly concerned that people would question why I was writing relatively formally on a forum that has a slightly relaxed atmosphere (at least, to me it does), and so I wrote this disclaimer just to explain to people that it's how I normally talk (both on the internet and in real life). Sorry for any confusion caused.

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Re: When are we legally allowed to discuss end-of-year exams?
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2011, 09:04:00 pm »
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Hello all,

I wasn't sure if this belonged in the "End-of-year exam discussion" sub-forum, so if that's where it belongs, feel free to move it.

I've noticed in that subforum that people are discussing the questions in the exams, and proposed answers. I do not oppose this practice, but just wanted to be sure that this does not provide any opportunity for any student to gain unfair prior knowledge of an exam before
sitting it.

Does this imply that all people who sit an exam start it at roughly the same time as others, thus removing this particular form of cheating?

Thank you for your time.

P.S. Yes, I do normally speak like this.

What do you mean by this disclaimer... in English?

I was slightly concerned that people would question why I was writing relatively formally on a forum that has a slightly relaxed atmosphere (at least, to me it does), and so I wrote this disclaimer just to explain to people that it's how I normally talk (both on the internet and in real life). Sorry for any confusion caused.

I think he is assuming that everyone on this board is still living in the stone age and can't understand anything but mumbling and grunts.

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Re: When are we legally allowed to discuss end-of-year exams?
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2011, 09:33:49 pm »
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I think Physics solutions were released by VCAA ridiculously early mid year
If you're talking about the solutions that were out like the day after (or even on the day), they weren't by VCAA. Those ones were put together by iTute (I think the AIP ones might have come out early as well).

VCAA released their solutions in the form of the assessor reports. For Physics it came out 27th September - not early at all :P

I know this is kind of ridiculous, and no-ones heard of it, but I'm actually doing the VCE overseas, my family moved to Dubai a couple of years ago, and lucky for me, it's the only place with a VCE school outside Australia. (Apparently there's one in China too, but it only has a couple of subjects running.) So we do sit exams at a different time due to the time difference, but the VCAA ensures that we start our exams just when everyone in Melbourne finishes theirs, so there's no scope for cheating (we basically have to sit exams at seven in the morning :/) And between exams we have to stay in a supervised room where we're isolated from any sort of technology. So yeah, I'm pretty sure the VCAA covers all their bases!
Wow, that's quite interesting.